Chargers at Cardinals MNF gameday thread 10-21-24

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whats weird: both Wilson and MHJ had contested balls that they both jumped for but didnt need to -- and in fact, increased the difficulty of the catch significantly --
i just feel like both those balls were passes that I see other, non superstar WRs make with regularity
I think it’s somewhat indicative of the fact that kyler has a tendency to throw high. The receivers adapt to that. Unfortunately it bites them in the backside when it’s unnecessary to jump.
 

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Isaiah Adams struggled again as a pass blocker last night. Allowed two pressures on 12 snaps — including the one that prevented Murray from finding Harrison for a long TD — and had a 30.4 PFF grade.Third-round rookie continues to grade out well as a run blocker, though.
 

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but this has 2002 vibes circling, where we we’re arguably the worst 4-2 team I had ever seen and knew sooner or later, our close shave Ws over bad teams was gonna flip and eventually we’d start losing games.
Ugh! Or how about that 2012 team with the 4-0 start and 1-11 finish?

(But that trip to Scottsdale and watching them beat the Eagles was almost enough to make the whole season worthwhile!)
 

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We all saw his college tape, and multiple first round wide receivers out of Ohio (Wilson, Olave, Smith-Njigba) have said MHJ was the best WR out of the 3 of them.

He didn't suddenly get bad.
Well he at least suddenly got "not very good". But I think your point was that he didn't suddenly lose the capability to be very good. Hopefully he, Murray, and Petzing will soon start doing what it takes for him to reach that potential.
 

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Ugh! Or how about that 2012 team with the 4-0 start and 1-11 finish?

(But that trip to Scottsdale and watching them beat the Eagles was almost enough to make the whole season worthwhile!)

That team totally snowed me though. The 2002 team was barely beating the drek of the league en route to their 4-2 record.

That 2012 team was actually beating GOOD teams, the Patriots (on the road no less) and then pulverized that 3-0 Eagles team people were calling the dream team. I didn’t think they were necessarily a Super Bowl team but thought they could be a playoff team. So that drop catastrophe hurt a little more than the 2002 team that I expected to collapse.
 

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After last nignts games, here are the predicted final records.

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They have the Cardinals going 5-1 in the division... so, 3-1 the rest of the way with two games against the Seahawks and one each against the 49ers and Rams. That seems... optimistic!

And they have Washington flaming out and going 4-7 the rest of the way, while the Eagles go 9-2 to easily win the NFC East. I think both of those predictions are way off base.

Broncos 11-6 and the #1 AFC Wild Card, with the Steelers getting the second WC at 10-7 and the Jets snagging the third WC with a 9-8 record... seems overly bullish on the Broncos and Jets, but we shall see!
 
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They have the Cardinals going 5-1 in the division... so, 3-1 the rest of the way with two games against the Seahawks and one each against the 49ers and Rams. That seems... optimistic!
If that actually happened we would be in a five way tie for the #7 spot of the playoffs. But Tampa would get it by having the best conference record.
 

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If that actually happened we would be in a five way tie for the #7 spot of the playoffs. But Tampa would get it by having the best conference record.
Are we looking at the same graphic? They have the entire NFC North at 10-7 or better, so they'd get all the Wild Cards. the Cardinals would be tied with Washington, Tampa Bay, and Seattle for #8.
 
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Are we looking at the same graphic? They have the entire NFC North at 10-7 or better, so they'd get all the Wild Cards. the Cardinals would be tied with Washington, Tampa Bay, and Seattle for #8.
I missed the Bears being at 10-7. I guess that game in two weeks decides the last playoff spot. :)
 

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Agree with this. But recognizing, and appreciating, that doesn’t mean we can’t also discuss his overall performance in reasonable terms, right? That’s what’s weird with this board. Some players become absolutely beyond reproach with some posters. For the life of me I’ll never understand that. I’d even criticize Fitz if he earned it.
I agree completely. The so called "Stans" in this thread are a great example of this. There is so much trolling going on in this thread it was hard to press through it. It was made much easier because of the win
 
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The Chargers' kicker had a great night, including a franchise record 59 yarder. And I'm wondering if having the roof open was a factor?
 

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Oof

According to this the audience was 1.8 million. That INCLUDES the people watching the local feeds. That is horrible for an NFL game.

What a dumb idea.

 

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Just rewatched the game a few quick observations I wanted to share:

1. Another great game by CB Garrett Williams. LAC was throwing it all over the field, but he himself was all over the field.

2. Naquan Jones split a double team and buried Hebert to get our first sack of the game. Might have been the best play by an Cardinal IDL all year.

3. On the fake reverse - if Conner would have actually pitched it to Murray, it might have been trouble for LAC. There was a lot of green grass in front of K1.

4. On the play where L.J. Collier got hurt, he actually got blasted by his own man Jalen Thompson who was coming in late to clean up the pile.

5. On the TD run, Murray pointed to the endzone with the football at like the 35. Maybe we think that's cool (I do, I love it). But I doubt other teams' defenders do.

6. Tip Reiman with some vicious blocks last night. One was a particularly nasty, crunching block to help JC get our last first down, ensuring LAC would not have a last chance if we made a FG.
 

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According to this the audience was 1.8 million. That INCLUDES the people watching the local feeds. That is horrible for an NFL game.

What a dumb idea.

Good we're sneaking up on everyone.
 

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That team totally snowed me though. The 2002 team was barely beating the drek of the league en route to their 4-2 record.

That 2012 team was actually beating GOOD teams, the Patriots (on the road no less) and then pulverized that 3-0 Eagles team people were calling the dream team. I didn’t think they were necessarily a Super Bowl team but thought they could be a playoff team. So that drop catastrophe hurt a little more than the 2002 team that I expected to collapse.
I remember arguing hard that the team sucked in 2002 and that we weren't good at all. IIRC, Tango thought we were awesome :D
 
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