Cards working out QB Glennon

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Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 6m
Cardinals GM Steve Keim and Arizona asst. coach Tom Moore are in Raleigh, N.C., to workout North Carolina State QB Mike Glennon on Tuesday.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Interesting:
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/mike-glennon?id=2539275

 

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It seems like Tom Moore is the key point-man for BA on looking at this year's QBs in the draft. I read an article that Moore was in Oklahoma at their pro day working out Landry Jones. I think BA has lot of confidence in his opinion.

 

[Chopper0080]

It seems like Tom Moore is the key point-man for BA on looking at this year's QBs in the draft. I read an article that Moore was in Oklahoma at their pro day working out Landry Jones. I think BA has lot of confidence in his opinion.

Well, I think Arians trusts Moore to determine which prospect has flaws that he feels are the easiest to correct. Arians is correct when he says none of these prospects "wow" anyone. They all have things they do well and things they really need to improve on. The target players should be ones who have flaws that are easily corrected. If not, why the hell did we bring in all of these QB coaches?

Same goes for the offensive line as well.

 

[Denny Green Fan]

Well, I think Arians trusts Moore to determine which prospect has flaws that he feels are the easiest to correct. Arians is correct when he says none of these prospects "wow" anyone. They all have things they do well and things they really need to improve on. The target players should be ones who have flaws that are easily corrected. If not, why the hell did we bring in all of these QB coaches?

Same goes for the offensive line as well.

Will Glennon be Joe Flacco or Derek Anderson? I have no clue

 

[desertdawg]

I like it, if an eventual back up QB is pretty much what were looking for, I'm good with that. Any QB that can complete a pass would be considered an upgrade to Skelton or Lindley. I think the new crew will be smart enough not to get their hopes and dreams from the 6th round or straght up undrafted list. Like Busta Rhymes says..."Give me some Moore!!" Like many have mentioned, his QB credintials surpass anything we've had here in maybe forever. If the plan is to take a third or fourth round QB it sounds good to me. Back ups are super important, than we can aim high next year in the draft or who knows who will pop up on the radar.

 

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I like it, if an eventual back up QB is pretty much what were looking for, I'm good with that. Any QB that can complete a pass would be considered an upgrade to Skelton or Lindley. I think the new crew will be smart enough not to get their hopes and dreams from the 6th round or straght up undrafted list. Like Busta Rhymes says..."Give me some Moore!!" Like many have mentioned, his QB credintials surpass anything we've had here in maybe forever. If the plan is to take a third or fourth round QB it sounds good to me. Back ups are super important, than we can aim high next year in the draft or who knows who will pop up on the radar.

I think that there could be some decent qbs that are still there in Round 3 or 4. Its not a great qb class but most likely Geno Smith, Barkley, Nassib and EJ Manuel go in the first two rounds. (They are the highest rated).
That could leave qbs like Tyler Wilson, Mike Glennon, Tyler Bray and Landry Jones there in rd 3 or even 4.

 

[WildBB]

I think that there could be some decent qbs that are still there in Round 3 or 4. Its not a great qb class but most likely Geno Smith, Barkley, Nassib and EJ Manuel go in the first two rounds. (They are the highest rated).
That could leave qbs like Tyler Wilson, Mike Glennon, Tyler Bray and Landry Jones there in rd 3 or even 4.

Wilson and Glennon are sure fire Rd. 2 picks. There is a lot to like about them, but yes there are some flaws too. But they will be picked to be starters at some point down the line.

Bray and Jones have more issues to deal with and will go later. Bray has some decent upside though.

I'm not surprised at all, that they're looking closely at Glennon. I think he'll be a target for them. But they had better build up that OL big time, if they go with him.

 

[Catfish]

This is very interesting, especially when considering that Carson Palmer is still not locked up by the Raiders. It makes sense to me that the Cardinals might be looking later into the draft too. If you feel that BA would be content to start Stanton this year, and he feels content to go with Hoyer as a backup, then he might be content to wait up until the draft itself to see if Oakland has a change of heart about keeping Palmer. There might be a last minute attempt by Oakland to unload Palmer, if they are sure of landing who they really want in the draft this year. Freeing up 13 mil the day of the draft might be the way to go for them, especially if we are still interested in Palmer to compete with Stanton. Some kind of trade or swap might be had in that case.

Also, having Palmer to compete with Stanton makes us better at QB, (and much deeper) for the long haul, until we can draft a QBOF. I would agree that Palmer is not the same as he once was, but he is still better than what we can field, even if we take high in the draft. Having Hoyer, Skelton, Lindley, (and their salaries), along with a lower draft pick, (like Glennon), might be welcoming to BA and Tom Moore a choices from which to select a development project while unloading additional salary cap money.

 

[juza76]

At now the only one who impressed tom moore was matt scott,my scout skills gave me the same impression

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

I think you just have to face it with the QBs in that most, and that is a big most, successful franchise type QBs are those premium guys who you expect to be good and that get drafted at the very top of drafts. Not saying that a good percentage aren't a bust, but the exceptions of drafting an all pro type QB after the 1st round, and especially after Round 2, is few and far between. When there is a Manning, Luck, RGIII, Flacco, Big Ben, Rivers, they go at or near the top. Every few years a couple of QBs may have been picked from the 2nd round. But after Round 2, it is a real rarity and you shouldn't expect to get more than a temporary backup.

Every other year, or every 3rd yr, there are some high quality QBs to look at. And every other year or sometimes 2 in a row, there is no starting franchise QB to pick from. This is surely that year. After last year's nice haul, it is expected that this year should be the one void of a starter. Just look back at the drafts. There is no way any team should waste a 1st round pick this year on a QB. They all have bust written all over them. If they didn't, they would be ranked at the top of all the draft prospect as Luck was last year.

You would be better gambling on a late round pick at QB becoming another Brady, than expecting any of these known commodities ever being more than we expect them to be. I predict that all teams that draft any of these top ranked QBs in the first two rounds will be drafting a QB again in a year or two. Hopefully that won't be the Cardinals having another year where they waste a high pick.

 

[b8rtm8nn]

+1

 

[desertdawg]

Interesting:
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/mike-glennon?id=2539275

I aint gonna lie, I didn't read that earlier today. Thought I had an idea about Glennon but that's some good stuff.

 

[desertdawg]

So this cat sat behind Russel Wilson the whole time kinda, and has a completely different game. One thing I seem to notice with Moore is his attention to the flat foot drill. It leads me to believe he aint looking for a SUPER mobile QB. The flat foot drill shows a commitment to the O-line as far as I'm concerned. Moore is showing up to QBs that aint the running type, and it all does come in waves. This could be the draft to snake a pocket cat that didn't really get a chance to get down. I'm sure they are thinking back up but he sounds a ton better than the SkeltyLindy ***** we've seen. We are looking for a pocket QB ladies and gentlemen, that's what I see so far. Next year we will look for an even better one.

 

[BigRedRage]

At now the only one who impressed tom moore was matt scott,my scout skills gave me the same impression

Isnt Scott a scrambler?

 

[sundevilscott]

Please no to Glennon. I haven't seen one thing from him that I thought was a positive or good QB play.

 

[Garthshort]

BigRedRage, most of what I've read/seen about Scott indicates that he has good wheels. Most say that's one of his strengths.

 

[juza76]

Isnt Scott a scrambler?

a russel wilson type.can stay in the pocket

 

[snowthedirtbub]

This FO and BA isn't exactly inspiring confidence in me bringing in a career backup and possibly wasting a draft pick on Glennon to compete for the starting job.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Glennon doesn't look accurate enough to me. I would rather have Wilson, Nassib or Scott.

 

[unseenaz]

This FO and BA isn't exactly inspiring confidence in me bringing in a career backup and possibly wasting a draft pick on Glennon to compete for the starting job.

What if he was there for a 4th round pick? Is it a waste then? The guys impressive looking on tape. (Not saying much, I'm sure Derek Anderson looked great in college too) He's got a great arm.

 

[Goldfield]

This FO and BA isn't exactly inspiring confidence in me bringing in a career backup and possibly wasting a draft pick on Glennon to compete for the starting job.

The Stanton move make complete sense. He is very familiar with him, and he is probably good enough to beat out Skelton and Lindley. I think everyone knew Kolb was gone.

Now I hope we find a true starter and keep Stanton as a solid backup. Would love for Stanton to prove me wrong a become a the GUY. Not holding my breath.

 

[WildBB]

Glennon doesn't look accurate enough to me. I would rather have Wilson, Nassib or Scott.

None of them are all that accurate.

What bothers me is Glennon's average passing Attempt. He finished #65 in the nation @ 7.1 YPA. That's not good, even with a depleted recieving corp. he should have been a little better.
http://espn.go.com/college-football...tat/passing/sort/yardsPerPassAttempt/count/41

Look at where my boy Aaron Murray is!

He's supposed to have a big arm, but his composure just isn't that good.

I haven't been a big EJ Manuel guy. But he seems light yrs. ahead of Glennon at this point. But he is not good on progressions right now. Don't know if they can coach him up more. I'd think they could.

 

[BigRedRage]

BigRedRage, most of what I've read/seen about Scott indicates that he has good wheels. Most say that's one of his strengths.

a russel wilson type.can stay in the pocket

just curious as BA doesnt care for running QBs.

 

[JeffGollin]

What bothers me is Glennon's average passing Attempt. He finished #65 in the nation @ 7.1 YPA. That's not good, even with a depleted recieving corp. he should have been a little better..

The thing about Glennon is that he's a tall, rangy kid (albeit with a cannon for an arm). Think Mark McGwire's brother (Dan McGwire)..

With it comes a long looping windup/release and arms & legs that tend to fly all over the place - not what you'd term a "consistent compact delivery."

Result - Slow windup/release, clumsy footwork and inconsistent delivery, and therefore, accuracy.

Not that Glennon can't overcome those negatives, but they are hurdles he'll have to get past.