Bryce Williams Added To Cardinals’ Tight End Room

[Cards Czar]

http://www.azcardinals.com/news-and...End-Room/7a302b00-69e6-4ec0-a41c-87cf76863a27

 

[Solar7]

Another depth signing I don't have a problem with.

 

[DevonCardsFan]

Hell yeah got 1 wr and 1 cb but we will unleash TE hell on them! To get those W,s

 

[Lagerfilled]

More cannon fodder! Keim not even shopping the clearance rack; he’s gone straight flea market grabbing other teams trash.

Meanwhile, we’re paying a career Safety to play MLB at 215lbs for $8mm this year. What a head scratcher.

 

[cardncubfan]

We need to have 90 players on the roster. We need camp bodies.

 

[GimmedaBall]

It's that time of the year when every team (not just the Cards) try to fill out the roster with these kind of depth signings. The big name, big money FA are off the market, lots of trades, etc. already completed.

Signing a guy like Byrce Williams means you can pick someone besides a 3rd-4th TE and special teams player with one of the lower round picks in the upcoming draft.

Not sure why this is upsetting to some. We still have the draft and camp cuts and a long way until the final roster for opening day is decided.

Here for the daily transactions---all teams are sorting through remaining players to fill out the roster:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/transactions/

http://www.espn.com/nfl/transactions

Rotoworld has a nice page on transactions that links to player stats, player outlook etc.

http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/transactions/nfl/all/today/

Here's two CBs who signed elsewhere on Wed. this week. Would you prefer these guys instead?

Colts signed CB Kenneth Acker, formerly of the Chiefs.
Seahawks signed CB Dontae Johnson, formerly of the 49ers.

Hit the 'Older' button on the Rotoworld Transaction page to take you to Wednesday/

http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/transactions/nfl/all/today/

 

[BW52]

The guy is probably no more than a backup at best .You do have to admit he must have some skills ;5 teams in 2 years and never making a active roster? Persistent kid.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

More cannon fodder! Keim not even shopping the clearance rack; he’s gone straight flea market grabbing other teams trash.

Meanwhile, we’re paying a career Safety to play MLB at 215lbs for $8mm this year. What a head scratcher.

Have you seen Flea Market Flip? Potential value...

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[JeffGollin]

What we do know - A big fella. If he can block and catch two-third of what's thrown to him, he might just help.

 

[GuernseyCard]

More cannon fodder! Keim not even shopping the clearance rack; he’s gone straight flea market grabbing other teams trash.

Meanwhile, we’re paying a career Safety to play MLB at 215lbs for $8mm this year. What a head scratcher.

BUC was 211 at the Combine and reported to be now over 230.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

#Winning

 

[cardncubfan]

More cannon fodder! Keim not even shopping the clearance rack; he’s gone straight flea market grabbing other teams trash.

Meanwhile, we’re paying a career Safety to play MLB at 215lbs for $8mm this year. What a head scratcher.

A career safety? He's never played the position once in his career.

 

[Lagerfilled]

BUC was 211 at the Combine and reported to be now over 230.

Right! I’ll believe it when I see it.

 

[Lagerfilled]

A career safety? He's never played the position once in his career.

Arians dumba$$ “tried” to turn a great 4yr college Strong Safety into some sort of hybrid LB, who is/was WAY too small and couldn’t shed blocks in spite of a stellar Dline in front of him. He’s NOT a LB and nobody will convince me otherwise. If they won’t play him at his natural position, then they should cut or trade him; not pay him close to $9mm/yr to be a mediocre LB at best.

 

[GimmedaBall]

Browns released TE Gavin Escobar, a 2nd round pick in 2013 by the Cowpies. Will Cards now cut Byrce Williams? LOL

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8410/gavin-escobar

 

[GimmedaBall]

Arians dumba$$ “tried” to turn a great 4yr college Strong Safety into some sort of hybrid LB, who is/was WAY too small and couldn’t shed blocks in spite of a stellar Dline in front of him. He’s NOT a LB and nobody will convince me otherwise. If they won’t play him at his natural position, then they should cut or trade him; not pay him close to $9mm/yr to be a mediocre LB at best.

In 2015, DBuc played his only season in all 16 games. He led the team in tackles (90), tied with Tony Jefferson with 3 FF, added 19 assists. Not too bad for a guy who switched positions and covered for a MIA DWash and other LBer injuries and made the All-Rookie team in 2014---after moving to $LB from his drafted SS position.

The hybrid player is the future of the D to compete with the NFL passing game.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...brid-players-are-part-of-a-growing-nfl-trend/

 

[GuernseyCard]

Right! I’ll believe it when I see it.

Ok, fine.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Arians dumba$$ “tried” to turn a great 4yr college Strong Safety into some sort of hybrid LB, who is/was WAY too small and couldn’t shed blocks in spite of a stellar Dline in front of him. He’s NOT a LB and nobody will convince me otherwise. If they won’t play him at his natural position, then they should cut or trade him; not pay him close to $9mm/yr to be a mediocre LB at best.

That's too bad because I believe I could if you were open minded to the idea.

 

[WisconsinCard]

In 2015, DBuc played his only season in all 16 games. He led the team in tackles (90), tied with Tony Jefferson with 3 FF, added 19 assists. Not too bad for a guy who switched positions and covered for a MIA DWash and other LBer injuries and made the All-Rookie team in 2014---after moving to $LB from his drafted SS position.

The hybrid player is the future of the D to compete with the NFL passing game.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...brid-players-are-part-of-a-growing-nfl-trend/

You beat me to it, but I wasn't going to give out the info because he said "nobody will convince me otherwise". So I figured I wouldn't waste my time.

 

[GimmedaBall]

You beat me to it, but I wasn't going to give out the info because he said "nobody will convince me otherwise". So I figured I wouldn't waste my time.

I take the silence as a sign that he was convinced---or at least doesn't have a counter-argument or facts to support his original complaint. Also, it is not a waste of time to supply the facts. Maybe not for the holder of the negative opinion but for others who might be persuaded that the negative opinion represents the 'facts.'

NFL.com did a recent 'Rate the drafts' for all teams. DBuc was one of the 'Hits' for the Cards and in the narrative the speaker indicated that DBuc has lead the Cards in total tackles since drafted (all tackles added up including his 2016 season with 90). I haven't taken the time to verify but it sounds right.

There are plays where DBuc gets washed out by a OL getting into the second level and opening a lane for the RB---but that happens with even the biggest LBer going against some of the beasts playing on the OL. There are plenty of plays where DBuc uses his speed to defeat the attempted block and makes the tackle.

 

[Lagerfilled]

I take the silence as a sign that he was convinced---or at least doesn't have a counter-argument or facts to support his original complaint. Also, it is not a waste of time to supply the facts. Maybe not for the holder of the negative opinion but for others who might be persuaded that the negative opinion represents the 'facts.'

NFL.com did a recent 'Rate the drafts' for all teams. DBuc was one of the 'Hits' for the Cards and in the narrative the speaker indicated that DBuc has lead the Cards in total tackles since drafted (all tackles added up including his 2016 season with 90). I haven't taken the time to verify but it sounds right.

There are plays where DBuc gets washed out by a OL getting into the second level and opening a lane for the RB---but that happens with even the biggest LBer going against some of the beasts playing on the OL. There are plenty of plays where DBuc uses his speed to defeat the attempted block and makes the tackle.

It has nothing to do with stats or facts as you call them. Leading the team in tackles is a wonderful individual stat; however what I see with my own eyes every Sunday is a player that has very little if any impact on the outcome of games. Therefore not worth the $8+mm he’s scheduled to earn this year.

With that said, if Keim, Wilks, Holcomb, & Foote believe he’s all that, than I’ll reserve further judgement until I see him play a few games in the new defense. But if I see another play where he’s lost in coverage, unable to shed blocks, or making tackles 10 yards down field, then my point is made.

 

[Jetstream Green]

It has nothing to do with stats or facts as you call them. Leading the team in tackles is a wonderful individual stat; however what I see with my own eyes every Sunday is a player that has very little if any impact on the outcome of games. Therefore not worth the $8+mm he’s scheduled to earn this year.

With that said, if Keim, Wilks, Holcomb, & Foote believe he’s all that, than I’ll reserve further judgement until I see him play a few games in the new defense. But if I see another play where he’s lost in coverage, unable to shed blocks, or making tackles 10 yards down field, then my point is made.

He is undersized for the position and the question is precisely where are those tackles being made... at the line of scrimmage, past three yards after he is taken out on some occasions or after he has allowed a guy to make a catch

 

[GimmedaBall]

It has nothing to do with stats or facts as you call them. Leading the team in tackles is a wonderful individual stat; however what I see with my own eyes every Sunday is a player that has very little if any impact on the outcome of games. Therefore not worth the $8+mm he’s scheduled to earn this year.

With that said, if Keim, Wilks, Holcomb, & Foote believe he’s all that, than I’ll reserve further judgement until I see him play a few games in the new defense. But if I see another play where he’s lost in coverage, unable to shed blocks, or making tackles 10 yards down field, then my point is made.

There isn't a single LBer who makes every single play, is in perfect position for every coverage, sheds every block, and makes tackles at the line of scrimmage or---even better---in the O's backfield.

Of course you are going to see DBuc (and every other player) NOT make the play. The O is sending out 11 superior athletes to try and make the play---why is it a disqualification for DBuc if the O players make a play.

With a new D and new players, you will get your wish and see plenty of vet D players lost in coverage, unable to shed blocks, or making tackles 10 yards down field. You'll see that with your own eyes.

It still is not going to 'prove' anything regarding DBuc. Unless you want to throw out tackles as a measure of what a LBer is supposed to do---and lead the team since he became a starter.

PS. You do realize that he stepped in to the $LB when injuries and DWash going AWOL left the Cards without enough LBers. By moving into the $LB spot, he was instrumental in the success that HB was able to accomplish---Cards were lethal with the way they could blitz since they had a SS who could play in the box and also fall back in coverage and free HB to do his thing.

Your turn. Convince me otherwise.

 

[Lagerfilled]

There isn't a single LBer who makes every single play, is in perfect position for every coverage, sheds every block, and makes tackles at the line of scrimmage or---even better---in the O's backfield.

Of course you are going to see DBuc (and every other player) NOT make the play. The O is sending out 11 superior athletes to try and make the play---why is it a disqualification for DBuc if the O players make a play.

With a new D and new players, you will get your wish and see plenty of vet D players lost in coverage, unable to shed blocks, or making tackles 10 yards down field. You'll see that with your own eyes.

It still is not going to 'prove' anything regarding DBuc. Unless you want to throw out tackles as a measure of what a LBer is supposed to do---and lead the team since he became a starter.

PS. You do realize that he stepped in to the $LB when injuries and DWash going AWOL left the Cards without enough LBers. By moving into the $LB spot, he was instrumental in the success that HB was able to accomplish---Cards were lethal with the way they could blitz since they had a SS who could play in the box and also fall back in coverage and free HB to do his thing.

Your turn. Convince me otherwise.

Thing is I don’t need to keep the circular conversation going. I’m entitled to my opinion and you want to debate. It has become a lost cause. Maybe you can go trigger someone else.

 

[THESMEL]

It has nothing to do with stats or facts as you call them. Leading the team in tackles is a wonderful individual stat; however what I see with my own eyes every Sunday is a player that has very little if any impact on the outcome of games. Therefore not worth the $8+mm he’s scheduled to earn this year.

With that said, if Keim, Wilks, Holcomb, & Foote believe he’s all that, than I’ll reserve further judgement until I see him play a few games in the new defense. But if I see another play where he’s lost in coverage, unable to shed blocks, or making tackles 10 yards down field, then my point is made.

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