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  1. Finito

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    Canelo vs Kovalev tonight. Canelo the middleweight champion jumping up 2 weight classes to take on light heavy champ Krusher Kovalev

    there even showing the fight in theaters tonight I haven’t seen that in forever.

    You watching?

    I think Kovalev although getting old is just to big

    Berchelt also fighting tonight on ESPN
     
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    Canelo got lucky....and still got his hometown cooking as expected.

    I am starting to get completely turned off by boxing. Canelo was somehow ahead on 2 of the 3 scorecards, when he barely threw any punches at all for the first half of the fight.

    I think all of MMA, including Boxing, needs to turn to Open Scoring. The judging in boxing is absolutely atrocious. They should show on the screen, and to the audience what the scores are. Even better, they should show us how each judge scores the fight.

    At least MMA/UFC seems pretty close.
     
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    I have no idea how you think he got “lucky” when it ended in a brutal knockout.

    The scores were pretty much dead even. 96-94, 96-94, 95-95.

    I’m not a Canelo fan at all but watching Kovalev throw a million meaningless jabs over the first 5 rounds wasn’t impressive at all.

    just look at the punch stat. Kovalev threw 577 jabs but only landed 10% of them (63). That’s downright awful. So while it looks like he’s busy he’s not actually doing anything.

    but look at power punches Canelo landed 104 out of 217 that’s 47% whenever a fighter can land damn near 50% of there power punches that pretty much tells you there doing what they want in the ring.

    punch stats

    Canelo 133 out of 344
    Kovalev 115 out of 745

    while punch stats don’t always tell the story that’s pretty alarming.
     
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    He left himself exposed for one moment and the fight ended. Sometimes that is all it takes in boxing.

    Landing 10% of your jabs is bad. With that said, you can't win rounds when you literally (yes I mean literally) don't throw any punches for 2 straight minutes and not connect with anything important in the other minute.

    There was clearly some home cooking in this one, just like both of the GGG fights with the judges.
     
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    well he managed to Outland him by throwing no punches then.

    Canelo lost the 1st GGG fight clearly but he clearly won the 2nd in my eyes.
     
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    And yet, Canelo landed more punches...

    I agree with you that generally speaking, scoring in boxing is a joke. But in this case, I actually thought the judges were pretty spot-on.
    And Canelo most certainly didn't get "lucky". He wore Kovalev down... which is amazing since Kovalev is naturally the bigger and stronger guy. But for some reason, Kovalev never tried to use his natural size and power to his advantage. He pitty-patted the entire fight, fighting while backing up as Canelo pressured him. Very strange to see...
     
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    Most of the punches Canelo landed were in the last 3 rounds. He was typical Canelo. Do nothing for the first half of the fight and still win rounds somehow. He should have been down 4-2, or even 5-1 after 6 rounds. He clearly wasn't according to the scorecards.
     
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    Huh? Why would you think he should've been down by that many rounds? Do you think you should get points simply for throwing meaningless punches as you're backing up? Girly jabs that never landed and zero power punches??
     
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    Meaningless punches are better than no punches. How can you score if you don't throw any punches?
     
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    Because what he does throw matters. Like I said compubox isn’t the be all and end all but it doesn’t really support your argument.

    “typical Canelo” yeah uh he’s pretty damn good. It honestly sounds like you got something against him especially if you thought he should be down that much midway through the fight. Your looking to give Kovalev rounds.

    listen I’m not a Canelo fan really but credit where credit is due. Kovalev fought like he was scared of him.
     
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    That’s wrong... especially since Canelo was applying all of the pressure and walking down Kovalev, wearing him down the entire fight. Nothing Kovalev was doing had any impact on Canelo, and everything Canelo was doing had an impact on Kovalev...
     
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    Naoya Inoue beat Donaire last night.

    best little guy in recent memory
     

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