Bickley and Jurecki SLAPPED DOWN by TD

[jstadvl]

It's no thing Russ

these guys are pretty much all come froms with allegiances to other teams and NEVER EVER give credit to anyone or thing connected with the Cards so they're not particularly popular.
Of course I'd love for either one to call me stupid. But any of these guys face to face with people are jellyfish.

 

[Lex]

Here's a couple of typical calls to sports talk radio out here:

Caller: Oh my god, I can't believe how these Cardinal fans are so delusional that they think they can make the playoffs, GET REAL, how stupid can you be? How do you guys think Henson will work out for the cowboys?

Hosts: hahahahahaha.

Caller: Dennis Green sucks, he always has, these people out here will hate him once he's been here a while. How do you guys think the Vikings will do in the post season?

Hosts: See, we were right about Green, the fans even think so.

Russ-

I realize that sports talk radio must be controversial for people to listen, however, dumping on the local team, is just the EASY way out, there are a lot more ways to be controversial with a bit of thought.

I would think that a chance to make the playoffs for the first time in 6 years would be newsworthy enough, (unless they vowed not to talk about the playoffs till we reached .500 like they did) that they could have a nice positive story on the team for once.

How about this idea: be controversial by claiming the Cards WILL make the playoffs, and get all the cowboy, packer, vikings, etc...fans to call in.

That's fresh.

 

[ajcardfan]

I caught that yesterday, frankly I was glad to hear it, if his first report had been true, it would have really bugged me that Green refused to let a guy back off so he could play on Sunday, hell I complained when that was first reported for that precise reason.

If Jurecki would turn around now and say "I was wrong about that, and I'm glad," I'd tip my hat to him and my respect for him would increase. Instead of that though, he'd rather stick to his act of spreading rumors and innuendo without naming any names and being unaccountable for it. That report implied malpractice by the Cards medical and coaching staff. Instead of being a responsible journalist and following up after the subject of that report publicly states the real situation, he'd rather make fun of the playoff letter. So, yeah, I'm glad he got told off.

 

[Russ Smith]

Russ-

I realize that sports talk radio must be controversial for people to listen, however, dumping on the local team, is just the EASY way out, there are a lot more ways to be controversial with a bit of thought.

I would think that a chance to make the playoffs for the first time in 6 years would be newsworthy enough, (unless they vowed not to talk about the playoffs till we reached .500 like they did) that they could have a nice positive story on the team for once.

How about this idea: be controversial by claiming the Cards WILL make the playoffs, and get all the cowboy, packer, vikings, etc...fans to call in.

That's fresh.

But it works both ways, mentioned before Ralph "the razor" Barbieri had a show on KNBR years ago. AFter the Cards, crippled with injuries, beat the Giants in the NLCS he was on and on about how lucky the Cards were, they suck, Giants are the best team etc. Every pro Cardinal call he hung up on, defended the local team to the death. And you know what, I HATED that, it was stupid.

Sports talk radio reflects 2 things, the opinion of the guy screening the calls(who won't let in calls he doesn't like that's why they ask you what you want to talk about) and the opinion of the audience who listens. I know a lot of sports fans who NEVER listen.

IF they'd been interviewing say Stump Mitchell, or OJ Anderson, or another ex Card player and been asking about the Broncos and Shanahan I'd have agreed with those upset that they ignored the Cards. You do realize the national perception is a 5-9 team has no business being alive for the playoffs?

I'd love to make it but if we do prepare for a huge backlash from the national media and fans about us not "deserving" to be there. Will be all the better when we win the first game if we get in.

I just think the board loves to trash Jurecki but if he went off the air tomorrow and wasn't replaced, you guys would complain you never get any inside reports anymore.

 

[ajcardfan]

I just think the board loves to trash Jurecki but if he went off the air tomorrow and wasn't replaced, you guys would complain you never get any inside reports anymore.

I wouldn't be one of them Russ.

 

[Russ Smith]

If Jurecki would turn around now and say "I was wrong about that, and I'm glad," I'd tip my hat to him and my respect for him would increase. Instead of that though, he'd rather stick to his act of spreading rumors and innuendo without naming any names and being unaccountable for it. That report implied malpractice by the Cards medical and coaching staff. Instead of being a responsible journalist and following up after the subject of that report publicly states the real situation, he'd rather make fun of the playoff letter. So, yeah, I'm glad he got told off.

Rats will get mad at me but devils advocate, why should Jurecki or anybody in the media do that, we've been told repeatedly Green doesn't have to do so if he's wrong? And when he does, people go to great lengths to say see Green admitted a mistake.

Who knows, maybe Jurecki made it up, or maybe he reported what Big told him, Big decided he didn't want to "cross" Green, so he came out and made it look like Jurecki was wrong? We have no idea what really happened, you'll assume Jurecki was wrong, I may assume Big is just doing what's expected, say what Green wants him to say.

I just think if nobody was complaining about Jurecki, he wouldn't have a job, so if you guys really hate him, stop complaining about him, he'll probably get fired.

 

[ajcardfan]

Rats will get mad at me but devils advocate, why should Jurecki or anybody in the media do that, we've been told repeatedly Green doesn't have to do so if he's wrong? And when he does, people go to great lengths to say see Green admitted a mistake.

He doesn't have to. If he did that sort of thing, I might actually go out of my way to listen to his stuff. As it is now, I rarely hear him directly, so I'm doing my part to get him fired. I haven't listened to the Bickley-Jurecki show once.

Green is accountable for his words and actions by his job results. If he loses, he'll be fired soon enough. Jurecki has been on the air for years been grossly wrong dozens of times and will probably have a job here long after Green is gone. That's even with the ratings of the sports stations here being lousy. But, to me, he's a putz until he proves different.

 

[Russ Smith]

He doesn't have to. If he did that sort of thing, I might actually go out of my way to listen to his stuff. As it is now, I rarely hear him directly, so I'm doing my part to get him fired. I haven't listened to the Bickley-Jurecki show once.

Green is accountable for his words and actions by his job results. If he loses, he'll be fired soon enough. Jurecki has been on the air for years been grossly wrong dozens of times and will probably have a job here long after Green is gone. That's even with the ratings of the sports stations here being lousy. But, to me, he's a putz until he proves different.

True.

What I find interesting is Lex complains over and over about Jurecki. As I understand it, Jurecki recently left one station and went to another, and yet Lex is still complaining?

Call me a cynic but doesn't that suggest to you that Lex INTENTIONALLY started listening to Jurecki's new station? I mean if you don't like the guy, why change stations?

People accuse me of stalking Jake, sounds to me like Lex has a Jurecki complex.

 

[Lex]

Russ-

I'm glad you brought up "perception." I agree there is a very negative perception of the Cardinals out there. Imagine how much worse it would be, if that's all Fox, CBS, ABC, ESPN, NFL Network, etc, talked about? Nothing but how bad the Cardinals are, ALL SEASON.

That's how it is here.

The same radio pundits that berate the team for poor attendance, call season ticket holders stupid, and propogate the negative perception of the team on the airwaves ad nauseum.

And it won't end, until it does.

Jurecki has taken a huge step down. He's Bickley's boy now.

 

[NickelBack]

Bickley and Jurecki SLAPPED DOWN by TD

Isn't that a bit like shooting fish in a barrel?

 

[Russ Smith]

Russ-

I'm glad you brought up "perception." I agree there is a very negative perception of the Cardinals out there. Imagine how much worse it would be, if that's all Fox, CBS, ABC, ESPN, NFL Network, etc, talked about? Nothing but how bad the Cardinals are, ALL SEASON.

That's how it is here.

The same radio pundits that berate the team for poor attendance, call season ticket holders stupid, and propogate the negative perception of the team on the airwaves ad nauseum.

And it won't end, until it does.

Jurecki has taken a huge step down. He's Bickley's boy now.

See my response to AJ, if this bugs you so much, why did you SWITCH stations and follow Jurecki?

I hated Barbieri, so I stopped listening to KNBR.

Even now I'll watch KGO to see Elizabeth Bermudez and then switch over to KRON to watch Gary Radnich do sports, I watch or listen to people I like, you should try it.

 

[Lex]

Russ-

I just read your last post. I flipped to the show this morning to see what was going on, and heard the interview. I don't listen to 910 as a rule, they have Rome on at 10, and I don't get to work till 9:30, so I don't hear Jurecki any more. I still listen to the Cards flagship, KDUS 1060. They have the Denny Green Show, the interview with him on Mondays, the Big Red Rage on Thursday, and the gameday shows.

I actually like Jurecki, he's all about football. But he's stupid, pig headed, stubborn, and WRONG ALL THE TIME.

 

[Russ Smith]

Russ-

I just read your last post. I flipped to the show this morning to see what was going on, and heard the interview. I don't listen to 910 as a rule, they have Rome on at 10, and I don't get to work till 9:30, so I don't hear Jurecki any more. I still listen to the Cards flagship, KDUS 1060. They have the Denny Green Show, the interview with him on Mondays, the Big Red Rage on Thursday, and the gameday shows.

I actually like Jurecki, he's all about football. But he's stupid, pig headed, stubborn, and WRONG ALL THE TIME.

OK, my bad just seemed like you were complaining about something after you chose to switch.

My girlfriend accuses me of speeding up and then complaining when someone moves over "you knew they wanted to, you just sped up so you could complain about it." Seemed like you were doing the same thing, my bad.

What station is Jurecki on now, do they webcast?

 

[RedViper]

As irritating and distasteful as most of these sports radio stations usually are, they are the best place to get breaking Cardinal news. They also seem to run the most and the worst advertising on the radio. The result is, I'm constantly flipping between the sportsradio stations to try to get substantive, breaking Cardinal news. For me, there is no chance I'm going to turn it off altogther during football season, or sit through those infuriating ads, no matter how much I hate the host on another station. Which is usually a great dea.

 

[Clif]

As irritating and distasteful as most of these sports radio stations usually are, they are the best place to get breaking Cardinal news. They also seem to run the most and the worst advertising on the radio. The result is, I'm constantly flipping between the sportsradio stations to try to get substantive, breaking Cardinal news. For me, there is no chance I'm going to turn it off altogther during football season, or sit through those infuriating ads, no matter how much I hate the host on another station. Which is usually a great dea.

yeah the bad part about all this is that I pretty much hate all the shows that are on, but it is the only way to get up to date cardinals news. You have to deal with the constant BS, badmouthing, and downright horrible shows to get the info you want.

 

[NickelBack]

the constant BS, badmouthing, and downright horrible shows

Ron Wolfley, when he is on the air, is none of these!

 

[FanOfTheGame1]

Ron Wolfley, when he is on the air, is none of these!

He's going by "Rockin' Wolf" now, right? I've never heard even a semi-intelligent comment from him.

He's from the Buffalo area originally - another local blowhard with a Buffalo connection is Dan Manucci - who goes by the equally silly "Rockin' Manooch". He tries to pass himself off as an NFL insider, but as I recall he was a Bills backup for a couple of years and may not have ever taken a snap. A Buffalo version of Preston Parsons, as it were.

 

[NickelBack]

He's going by "Rockin' Wolf" now, right?

No.

I am referring by the former AZ Cardinal -and current head football coach at Phoenix College - who goes by 'Ron Wolfley' on the AZ Cardinals pre-game and post-game shows on the Duece.

 

[FanOfTheGame1]

Then who is "Rockin' Wolf" on 860? I thought that was Wolfley too.

 

[NickelBack]

Then who is "Rockin' Wolf" on 860?

You tell us, you were the one dumping on his work - shouldn't you have that figured before you pop him?

 

[JeffGollin]

Context, Boys & Girls. Context.

Bickley and Jurecki are pounding TD on the subject of why the Broncos are sucking.

Terrell gets defensive and finally replies: "Oh yeah? So how come you've got to talk about my team instead of your own team?"

I think TD made a valid point by calling attention to Bick's and MJ's focus on something other than the home team. But I didn't think it was a particularly big deal.

I think - after being grumpy about apparently not having the inside access granted by the previous regime - MJ's being doin' OK. And Bickley is like any typical Jets fans - short attention span (i.e. the team that won last week is Super Bowl bound and the one that lost last week should have its coached wacked).

Actually, the one piece of writing that bent my nose (further) out of joint was today's piece by Kent Somers - not so much the content (lots of people have questioned Dennis' personnel moves) but its timing.

Hells bells! The team has just played its best game in 2 years and has the opportunity to take a business trip to Seattle, bring home the bacon and edge closer to a playoff spot. With all the story lines available to Somers (see below) he chooses instead to rip the head coach on player moves and then raise the distracting issue of "who's going to be back next year and who's going to leave?"

Why bring this up now?

Other (better?) story lines he could have explored -

- Leonard Davis' meniscus. If he continues to play this season, does Big risk injuring it further? Or is this mainly a pain thing?

- Same deal with regard to Emmitt's toe.

- What's the deal with Wendell Bryant and Calvin Pace? Were they benched "on merit?" Or was it really that Dennis wanted to see what Antonio Smith could do? Which of these guys is going to suit up in Seattle?

- The Damien Anderson story - He's back (literally from the dead). He got in for one play last week. Can we expect to see more of him? (Sidebar - Nice FoxNet piece on Marcel Shipp's rehab - don't leave him out of any future RB equation)

- The resurgance of our cornerbacks. What has Clancy and his position coach been doing to get these guys to cover tighter than our CB's have in recent history?

- X's & O's. Check the frequency of various offensive sets and I think you'll find that Alex Woods dialed up a lot of "Red Formation" plays (i.e. 2 backs split behind the QB under center). Not only that, but this formation is considered a passing formation in west coast schemes. But Woods called at least 2 or 3 running plays from that set. A nice analysis of Cardinal offensive and defensive strategies would be a welcome addition to AZR team coverage.

- McCown - What's he seeing (and doing) differently since he was "sat" for those three games?

 

[Russ Smith]

- The resurgance of our cornerbacks. What has Clancy and his position coach been doing to get these guys to cover tighter than our CB's have in recent history?

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Pass rush, and the addition of Macklin and getting Starks back this year. Solomon has done a solid job but if we had no pass rush, no Macklin and Starks out hurt we'd all be complaining about Hill and whoever else at CB like we did in the past.

It all starts up front. That's why I'm so thrilled with Pendergast and Pollard and the acquisition of Berry and drafting of Dockett, and Dansby, they've completely remade this pass rush.