2026 off season

[Adrian]

PHNX Suns
@PHNX_Suns
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17m
Bobby Marks has Mark Williams as the fifth-best restricted free agent this summer.

He would offer three years, $42 million and put Phoenix, Atlanta, Boston & Chicago as the best fits.

 

[Adrian]

Benjamin Garcia
@BenGarciaShow
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1h
The price tag feels about right for Mark Williams.

The problem is with Collin Gillespie, Jordan Goodwin and Mark Williams all being FA’s and the Suns only being $17 million under the luxury tax line it’s going to be DIFFICULT to sign them all AND avoid the tax penalties.

 

[Raindog]

Benjamin Garcia
@BenGarciaShow
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1h
The price tag feels about right for Mark Williams.

The problem is with Collin Gillespie, Jordan Goodwin and Mark Williams all being FA’s and the Suns only being $17 million under the luxury tax line it’s going to be DIFFICULT to sign them all AND avoid the tax penalties.

I'm guessing the best possible resolution will be to resign Williams and then trade him. He could bring back some draft capital, or help the Suns move up this year. It would also free them from having to worry about his health next year and every other year going forward.

 

[hcsilla]

Yes, Williams is the most important and expensive Suns' FA but at the same time he is the riskiest one as well and can probably fetch the most in S&T.

 

[Adrian]

Evan Sidery

@esidery
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45m


A realistic framework for what the Grizzlies could receive in a trade for Ja Morant this offseason:
Timberwolves receive: Morant
Suns receive: Julius Randle
Grizzlies receive: Grayson Allen, Royce O’Neale, Donte DiVincenzo, 2nd-round draft capital

 

[Raindog]

Evan Sidery
@esidery
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45m


A realistic framework for what the Grizzlies could receive in a trade for Ja Morant this offseason:
Timberwolves receive: Morant
Suns receive: Julius Randle
Grizzlies receive: Grayson Allen, Royce O’Neale, Donte DiVincenzo, 2nd-round draft capital

If I were the Suns, I would consider that.

 

[Hoop Head]

Evan Sidery
@esidery
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45m


A realistic framework for what the Grizzlies could receive in a trade for Ja Morant this offseason:
Timberwolves receive: Morant
Suns receive: Julius Randle
Grizzlies receive: Grayson Allen, Royce O’Neale, Donte DiVincenzo, 2nd-round draft capital

I'd do that just for @Phrazbit reaction.

If we got a pick or picks them I'd be in favor. They could be 2nd rounders.

 

[Phrazbit]

I'd do that just for @Phrazbit reaction.

If we got a pick or picks them I'd be in favor. They could be 2nd rounders.

Maybe if we were sending out Green, but here we're sending out good salary for bad... and cancer.

Even ignoring my distaste for his personality... statistically, financially, I don't see how that makes us better.

I'm sure the wolves would jump all over it. They get 2 hardened vets at important roles that will dramatically improve their spacing and perimeter defense... at the cost of a guy who quits whenever things get bad, gets techs, plays for stats and they only acquired in a salary dump.

 

[Proximo]

Yes, Williams is the most important and expensive Suns' FA but at the same time he is the riskiest one as well and can probably fetch the most in S&T.

Baloney.

Goodwin is #1, Gillespie is #2. Williams only has value if we can trade him. We will be better off without him, he cannot be relied on, and even at his best you want a better starting center.

I would much rather ride with Khaman and Oso, and just add some vet min center.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Baloney.

Goodwin is #1, Gillespie is #2. Williams only has value if we can trade him. We will be better off without him, he cannot be relied on, and even at his best you want a better starting center.

I would much rather ride with Khaman and Oso, and just add some vet min center.

Really? I agree we can't count on him and that we probably have to move on from him but when he was at his best, we were a real threat to anyone. We aren't getting a better center than Mark at his best.

 

[95pro]

Baloney.

Goodwin is #1, Gillespie is #2. Williams only has value if we can trade him. We will be better off without him, he cannot be relied on, and even at his best you want a better starting center.

I would much rather ride with Khaman and Oso, and just add some vet min center.

MW was a huge reason we were a legit competitive team this season. Once he went out we went down.

 

[Raindog]

Really? I agree we can't count on him and that we probably have to move on from him but when he was at his best, we were a real threat to anyone. We aren't getting a better center than Mark at his best.

I'm not disagreeing. But the perennial injury issues are pretty much established as a given and not a fluke at this point. Add the fact that he would (hopefully) eventually inevitably be losing his starting role to Maluach, and it's not really reasonable for the Suns to sink much of the cap into him long term.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I'm not disagreeing. But the perennial injury issues are pretty much established as a given and not a fluke at this point. Add the fact that he would (hopefully) eventually inevitably be losing his starting role to Maluach, and it's not really reasonable for the Suns to sink much of the cap into him long term.

Yeah I've said before I think his future path is likely similar to Biyombo's who was good enough to start but health relegated him to 3rd center. If we could expect 65 games from him, I'd pay him what it takes and he'd be worth it. But since he's averaged only 41 games a season in his 4 years, I don't think he's a risk we can afford.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Evan Sidery
@esidery
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45m


A realistic framework for what the Grizzlies could receive in a trade for Ja Morant this offseason:
Timberwolves receive: Morant
Suns receive: Julius Randle
Grizzlies receive: Grayson Allen, Royce O’Neale, Donte DiVincenzo, 2nd-round draft capital

Now that’s interesting.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Maybe if we were sending out Green, but here we're sending out good salary for bad... and cancer.

Even ignoring my distaste for his personality... statistically, financially, I don't see how that makes us better.

I'm sure the wolves would jump all over it. They get 2 hardened vets at important roles that will dramatically improve their spacing and perimeter defense... at the cost of a guy who quits whenever things get bad, gets techs, plays for stats and they only acquired in a salary dump.

The wolves get morant.