2026 off season

[Proximo]

goody and gillespie are getting paid -
grayson might have to go - he's due for pay increases the next 2 years and couldn't stay on the court

hearing gillespie 30+ for 3 years plus - maybe 4 years around 45 million - also hearing his particular signing won't go against our cap or some crap like that but idk

goody ended up being a starter at the end of the year when we were healthy at his position aside from the aforementioned grayson allen - goody's getting paid - i haven't heard how much

dillon's getting a big fat extension - there's no way around it - he and phx are still in the honeymoon stage - no idea what the villain gets either but he might actually be kind in the contract - i really think he wants to win here (with book)

mark williams might be cheaper than we imagined - i'd offer to run it back (6 million) if no one comes with an offer - not joking - we'd still be forced to play small ball on back to backs if maluach or oso misses time

i like oneale at 10 million especially if we move off grayson - i love grayson but not at 18 million

I don't want Mark Williams back at any price.

Grayson really needs to go. I would much rather give Kobe Brea minutes - I think he is just as good a shooter and a lot younger and cheaper and far more likely to stay healthy.

I would like to see O'neal gone too. I want Rasheer playing 35 minutes a game next season, Highsmith and Dunn are more than capable of playing the rest.
Would love to turn O'neal into a draft pick if possible.

 

[Adrian]

Fullcourtpass

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The Suns want to secure a long-term stay for Dillon Brooks but they are mindful that an extension would kick in for his age-32 season, per @JakeLFischer “The max extension that Brooks can command is a four-year deal in the $125 million range but the expectation is that a new deal will not reach that upper threshold”

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

I don't want Mark Williams back at any price.

Grayson really needs to go. I would much rather give Kobe Brea minutes - I think he is just as good a shooter and a lot younger and cheaper and far more likely to stay healthy.

I would like to see O'neal gone too. I want Rasheer playing 35 minutes a game next season, Highsmith and Dunn are more than capable of playing the rest.
Would love to turn O'neal into a draft pick if possible.

i agree with williams - don't want no part time lover

i like the way we slow cooked fleming and maluach - i definitely think fleming was/is ready for more

oneale is a steal at $10 (which makes him tradable?) - doesn't miss time and is clutch during crunch time - he can cover 1-4 defensively and is excellent knowing when to help gillespie - (goody dunn and oso are too)

 

[95pro]

There are several players that are 30ish: Book, Brooks and Allen. Oneal is 32.

There are a bunch of former suns bigs available this summer, that says a lot about previous big man scouting.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Fullcourtpass
@Fullcourtpass
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47m


The Suns want to secure a long-term stay for Dillon Brooks but they are mindful that an extension would kick in for his age-32 season, per @JakeLFischer “The max extension that Brooks can command is a four-year deal in the $125 million range but the expectation is that a new deal will not reach that upper threshold”

Dillon Brooks has a shelf life with every franchise - I sure as hell have zero interest in paying for his declining years, where his antics will be considerably less entertaining.

 

[Proximo]

Dillon Brooks has a shelf life with every franchise - I sure as hell have zero interest in paying for his declining years, where his antics will be considerably less entertaining.

He's still got 4 or 5 good years in him.

Even Draymond isn't completely useless at his age.

You better get used to him, Ishbia talked about him almost as glowingly as Devin, so he is going nowhere.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

He's still got 4 or 5 good years in him.

Thank you for looking into your crystal ball - now I'm confident we're good.

Even Draymond isn't completely useless at his age.

We'll see how much anyone wants to pay him in his next contract.

You better get used to him, Ishbia talked about him almost as glowingly as Devin, so he is going nowhere.

Doesn't mean it's a good decision or the right decision.

 

[Cheesebeef]

goody and gillespie are getting paid -
grayson might have to go - he's due for pay increases the next 2 years and couldn't stay on the court

hearing gillespie 30+ for 3 years plus - maybe 4 years around 45 million - also hearing his particular signing won't go against our cap or some crap like that but idk

it goes against our cap. we're just allowed to spend over it because we have his bird rights.

goody ended up being a starter at the end of the year when we were healthy at his position aside from the aforementioned grayson allen - goody's getting paid - i haven't heard how much

dillon's getting a big fat extension - there's no way around it - he and phx are still in the honeymoon stage - no idea what the villain gets either but he might actually be kind in the contract - i really think he wants to win here (with book)

I doubt this - locking yourself into a fool's gold season seems like a foolish move.

also, if we are throwing out a lot of money to goody, Gillespie, Dillon, we are forever dooming ourselves to being cap-strapped and really never being able to improve this team in FA ever.

mark williams might be cheaper than we imagined - i'd offer to run it back (6 million) if no one comes with an offer - not joking - we'd still be forced to play small ball on back to backs if maluach or oso misses time

this I agree with.

i like oneale at 10 million especially if we move off grayson - i love grayson but not at 18 million

coin flip here.

 

[Raindog]

So listening to this press conference, it doesn't sound like they are looking to make any major changes to the team.

They even somewhat are resisting the idea we need to get some new big men.

Again flat out said Book is not going to be traded. I think this is a mistake, but apparently it's still a non starter. Also said they believe Jalen, Dillion and Book can work together.

So sounds to me our season is going to largely depend on the development of Khaman, Rasheer, Jalen Green, Oso, Ryan, Kobe and Huntley.

Gregory even said the way we played in Game 3 and Game 4 he thinks we would beat almost anybody other than OKC. I don't really agree with this - especially about game 3, but it gives you pretty good insight into the fact they don't want to make major changes.

I think we might make one major outside addition, hopefully someone like a Mitchell Robinson but other than that I am expecting most of the team to come back as is.

Yeah, if that's more than just talk by Ishbia, we are probably screwed. The chances that this exact team improves in any measurable way next year are close to zero. The chances they actually backslide are far greater.

I predict at about this time next year, the mood of the end of season presser will be considerably more somber if they just stand pat.

 

[Carolinacacti]

Was Livers hurt at the end. I think he was a inexpensive keeper

 

[Carolinacacti]

Yeah, if that's more than just talk by Ishbia, we are probably screwed. The chances that this exact team improves in any measurable way next year are close to zero. The chances they actually backslide are far greater.

I predict at about this time next year, the mood of the end of season presser will be considerably more somber if they just stand pat.

I think if Williams can play all year. They will compete, so the chances are slim

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

it goes against our cap. we're just allowed to spend over it because we have his bird rights.

I doubt this - locking yourself into a fool's gold season seems like a foolish move.

also, if we are throwing out a lot of money to goody, Gillespie, Dillon, we are forever dooming ourselves to being cap-strapped and really never being able to improve this team in FA ever.

this I agree with.

coin flip here.

that was all pre conference but ish made it sound like we're keeping the band together - only shots fired i heard was the load management line - not good for williams

it sounds good for goody gillespie and dillon tho - ish praised dillon specifically - dillon praised phx and the fans - i think all 3 get taken care of

i was hoping ish didn't do anything big - if the trio doesn't work out the trade deadline isn't til february(?) so that gives us a little time

 

[leclerc]

I wanted the PG from Cleveland was it, that signed with the Clippas.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

"The Suns, I'm told, indeed want to secure a long-term stay for Brooks after his role in establishing them as the West's foremost regular season surprise team, but sources say that Phoenix is also mindful of the fact that an extension would kick in for Brooks' age-32 season since there is currently only one season left on his contract in 2026-27 at $21 million. The max extension that Brooks can command is a four-year deal in the $125 million range but the expectation is that a new deal will not reach that upper threshold."

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25424033-new-dillon-brooks-rumors-update-suns-max-contract-buzz-after-nba-playoff-exit

 

[Proximo]

Thank you for looking into your crystal ball - now I'm confident we're good.

We'll see how much anyone wants to pay him in his next contract.

Doesn't mean it's a good decision or the right decision.

I don't think it's much of a crystal ball to say a guy can still play NBA ball up to 35. Most that are somewhat skilled can. It's after 35 it starts to get dicey.

As far as Draymond - don't get me wrong, I would not want him on my team. I'm just saying he is still good enough to get playing time at his age.

Well, he was just our best player these playoffs, so I am not sure how it would not be a wise decision to keep him. I think his attitude is a good thing to have on your team, and just because we extend him doesn't make him untradeable if things were to change.

 

[Proximo]

I think if Williams can play all year. They will compete, so the chances are slim

What do you see in Williams? Even when he plays he is not that good at anything. He is mediocre at rim protection, a mediocre rebounder, and pretty much just bad on offense. He can't create his own shot worth a damn. Basically he is a lob guy.

I really think Maluach will be the better player by next season.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

I don't think it's much of a crystal ball to say a guy can still play NBA ball up to 35. Most that are somewhat skilled can. It's after 35 it starts to get dicey.

As far as Draymond - don't get me wrong, I would not want him on my team. I'm just saying he is still good enough to get playing time at his age.

Well, he was just our best player these playoffs, so I am not sure how it would not be a wise decision to keep him. I think his attitude is a good thing to have on your team, and just because we extend him doesn't make him untradeable if things were to change.

In a vacuum, I'd love to keep Brooks. I just don't see any path to the kind of improvement we need without trading him. We'll see.

 

[Carolinacacti]

He is not a top 20 center. But he is not Nic Richards, Nurcek or Ayton. Witch we all had the Joy to watch
.

 

[Phrazbit]

He is not a top 20 center. But he is not Nic Richards, Nurcek or Ayton. Witch we all had the Joy to watch
.

If he could stay healthy and play 32 minutes a game with the same juice he plays 24 minutes, he'd be a top 10 center... but that does not seem likely for him physically.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

brooks is the easiest extension decision ever imo - because he'd be the easiest player to move should we ever need to - playoff teams are looking to add defense and get tougher all the damn time - if we keep the contract reasonable dillon brooks is a pile picks just waiting to he traded for - or even better finds success with phoenix and we start competing again

 

[Hoop Head]

I think if Jalen can stay healthy then we'll improve even if we do run it back. The amount of time he missed is where there's room for improvement. Ideally the second half slump isn't as bad either as we'd only be dealing with guys hitting a wall instead of integrating a key piece like Jalen. Plus Maluach will be better if/when Williams goes down. I expect Williams to return on the qualifying offer at least.

 

[Cheesebeef]

brooks is the easiest extension decision ever imo - because he'd be the easiest player to move should we ever need to - playoff teams are looking to add defense and get tougher all the damn time - if we keep the contract reasonable dillon brooks is a pile picks just waiting to he traded for - or even better finds success with phoenix and we start competing again

man, I don't think Dylan Brooks is ever going to be a pile of picks, especially if he's making something like 25 to 30 million buck per multi-years. He's a notorious head-case and yeah, this season rehabbed his image, but we are going to be buying him at an all-time high, which is never a great position to be for a guy who's career has had as many downs as it has. If we don't produce results next year, all the good will he's gotten could be easily looked as a blip on the radar screen and he could go back to the guy who's bounced around to a bunch of different teams because he wears out his welcome fast.

I guess the question is - what do you think is reasonable to sign him to?

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

man, I don't think Dylan Brooks is ever going to be a pile of picks, especially if he's making something like 25 to 30 million buck per multi-years. He's a notorious head-case and yeah, this season rehabbed his image, but we are going to be buying him at an all-time high, which is never a great position to be for a guy who's career has had as many downs as it has. If we don't produce results next year, all the good will he's gotten could be easily looked as a blip on the radar screen and he could go back to the guy who's bounced around to a bunch of different teams because he wears out his welcome fast.

I guess the question is - what do you think is reasonable to sign him to?

25ish for 3 years sounds good for the suns - i imagine he'll want more but might take 4 years at 25 - idk honestly

my point was he'll be easy as hell to move should we want to - opposite of one bradley beal - if he continues to cook on offense even better

dillon's game improved since coming here - the suns improved - the rockets miss the hell out of him - i think brooks is not only a safe bet but also a sound investment

we could dump that salary for good picks and good picks alone - opens up a lot of possibilities if we get him on paper longterm - you know im making sense here amigo

 

[Mainstreet]

I wanted the PG from Cleveland was it, that signed with the Clippas.

Darius Garland might be the player you are thinking of.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

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