2026 5th round pick is Reggie Virgil WR

[Harry]

I'm not that familiar with him but if you google him the lack of speed is a pretty common point so it's either from his 40 time at the combine, or actual production or both.

I won't write him off his 40 time is faster than Boldin's was for example and look how good he panned out, you never know. He just seems redundant to me. MHJ doesn't play as fast as we were told he was. Mike is great but he's not a burner. Bourne I like, but again not a burner. We have a bunch of big WR's, Bourne is the smallest at 6'1" but not much speed. Doesn't mean it's impossible to overcome the Rams have had a great passing game and they didn't have burners either. So maybe CMLF will be able to create a good offense

Boldin was the ultimate unicorn. He played QB in high school. When FSU’s QBs got injured he moved to QB for 1 game and won the game. I practically jumped through my TV when the Cards drafted him. One of their biggest mistakes ever was letting him go. He wasn’t as good right after the injury, but he bounced back. The Cards never have appreciated on the field leadership. Huge fault!

 

[Harry]

Wasn't very productive but is fast

The point of the speed is it spreads the field and opens up underneath routes. Defenders can just let him go by because if he does catch it, it’s a TD. Virgil is a much better possession receiver, but that’s not a need.

 

[Harry]

I would ask who was the last speedy WR we’ve had who actually elevated numbers in the win column, Roy?

I want three things from a wide receiver and sub 4.5 speed isn’t one of them.

Steve Breaston 4.41

 

[CardNots]

The point of the speed is it spreads the field and opens up underneath routes. Defenders can just let him go by because if he does catch it, it’s a TD. Virgil is a much better possession receiver, but that’s not a need.

as one would think

Speed void of separation, ball tracking and the critical catch = Isabella = zero value

 

[RON_IN_OC]

as one would think

Speed void of separation, ball tracking and the critical catch = Isabella = zero value

Invisabella

 

[Krangodnzr]

Boldin was the ultimate unicorn. He played QB in high school. When FSU’s QBs got injured he moved to QB for 1 game and won the game. I practically jumped through my TV when the Cards drafted him. One of their biggest mistakes ever was letting him go. He wasn’t as good right after the injury, but he bounced back. The Cards never have appreciated on the field leadership. Huge fault!

Yep I was really excited for him too. Back then I watched a lot of FSU on TV for some reason, and Boldin was a beast

 

[oaken1]

Yes actually.

Apparently there are a great number of people who can't judge a players speed by video. I pretty much can. Virgil is certainly not fast I don't care how many announcers are screaming he is.

he is not fast.
But he does have functional game speed...which is just as important.
too many guys run a 4.4 on the track but cant manage a 4.8 with pads on... Reggie seems to run just as well with pads.

 

[oaken1]

as one would think

Speed void of separation, ball tracking and the critical catch = Isabella = zero value

but Virgil, gets separation from his routes,..is excellent at tracking deep balls,...high points, catches with his hands, and wins his contested balls.
he has all the necessary skills to be an NFL WR...
you always want more speed... but he provides an intangible that we may really need.

he does all the stuff Mike and Marv do,...and he does it really well... so in the event we lose one of those guys for whatever reason...they are quickly replaced on the field.

 

[daves]

I would ask who was the last speedy WR we’ve had who actually elevated numbers in the win column, Roy?

I want three things from a wide receiver and sub 4.5 speed isn’t one of them.

John Brown ran a 4.34 and was instrumental in winning a few games back in the day.

 

[BritCard]

One of my favorite wide receivers of recent times is Adam Thielen.

Give me route running and hands over speed every time. Speed is vastly overrated in wide receivers.

I'd rather have routes, hands AND speed. But speed as a focus stat has no value. Speed without route running and hands has zero value.

 

[DVontel]

One of my favorite wide receivers of recent times is Adam Thielen.

Give me route running and hands over speed every time. Speed is vastly overrated in wide receivers.

I'd rather have routes, hands AND speed. But speed as a focus stat has no value. Speed without route running and hands has zero value.

You realize Thielen ran a 4.45, right? Not exactly a slow-poke.

 

[CardNots]

Give me route running and hands over speed every time. Speed is vastly overrated in wide receivers.

+1

 

[schutd]

You realize Thielen ran a 4.45, right? Not exactly a slow-poke.

Is 12/100ths of a second going to tank this kid? Honest question.

 

[Harry]

The point of speed isn’t just how many catches he makes. It’s about his impact on routes. The Cards have possession guys including the best TE in the game. They clog the middle depth area. A speed receiver pulls at least one defender out of that area. I just think they drafted a skill they have. Redundancy is not always an asset, especially when viewing the entirety of the roster. In Tre Wallace they got the same player without using a pick.

 

[BritCard]

You realize Thielen ran a 4.45, right? Not exactly a slow-poke.

Meh. That time is hand timed from some regional combine that nobody attended. He ran a 4.49 at his pro day, which was again hand timed and dubious. WHo's attending the Minnesota State Mavericks D2 pro day?

We all know he was no burner in the league.

 

[BritCard]

The point of speed isn’t just how many catches he makes. It’s about his impact on routes. The Cards have possession guys including the best TE in the game. They clog the middle depth area. A speed receiver pulls at least one defender out of that area. I just think they drafted a skill they have. Redundancy is not always an asset, especially when viewing the entirety of the roster. In Tre Wallace they got the same player without using a pick.

Would you swap Puka Nakua for Brian Thomas?

Speed on it's own has little value.

 

[DVontel]

Meh. That time is hand timed from some regional combine that nobody attended. He ran a 4.49 at his pro day, which was again hand timed and dubious. WHo's attending the Minnesota State Mavericks D2 pro day?

We all know he was no burner in the league.

He was no slow poke, either.

We’re not dumb. We both know why he was the example you used, lol.

 

[DVontel]

Would you swap Puka Nakua for Brian Thomas?

Speed on its own has little value.

A better question is would you swap Puka Nacua for Ja’Marr Chase?

 

[Harry]

Would you swap Puka Nakua for Brian Thomas?

Speed on it's own has little value.

Agree to disagree

 

[Chopper0080]

A better question is would you swap Puka Nacua for Ja’Marr Chase?

Or the age old debate between Randy Moss and Larry Fitzgerald.

 

[Goldfield]

Jo

Steve Breaston 4.41

hn Brown

 

[oaken1]

Would you swap Puka Nakua for Brian Thomas?

Speed on it's own has little value.

disagree...speed for an NFL WR has immense value.

you got two guys...one runs a 4,5 and has a catch rate of 80%
very valuable WR as he can be counted on to make the catch.

the other guy,...runs a 4.18 but only has a catch rate of 50%
more valuable WR... why you ask?? when he only catches half his targets??
Because even at only catching half...half... the defense has to assume he will catch every single one... they cannot afford to let him get loose behind the coverage or its game over.
so the safeties back up 5 yards...they backpedal sooner..and they even turn and break into a full retreat sooner...

then your 4.5 guy catches the pass underneath for a 15 yards gain...because he only had single coverage.

its the entire purpose for having a speed receiver...the threat is the value...dude probably only gets 60 targets a year...but he affects 100% of the routes.

 

[kerouac9]

dude probably only gets 60 targets a year...but he affects 100% of the routes.

That’s a lot of targets. Cooper Kupp only had 47 targets with the Seahawks last season.

 

[Goldfield]

It’s a 5th round WR in a weak draft. He looks like he can play. This feels like nitpicking about the speed.

 

[oaken1]

Holy crap

That’s a lot of targets. Cooper Kupp only had 47 targets with the Seahawks last season.

does Kupp run a 4.18??
I never realized he was so fast!!