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We talk about the offense (rightfully so) but the defense had 3 opportunities to close out games and didn't.
2025 Arizona Cardinals Regular Season Thread
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Great read….
The Desert’s Boiling Point: Cardinals Fans Are Losing Patience
They say football is a blood-sport — but right now, in Arizona, it feels more like emotional trauma. After another gutting loss, this time to the Tennessee Titans, the simmering frustration among Cardinals fans has boiled over. The mood across the Valley is dark, voices are rising, and hope is eroding fast.
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A Quick Look: What’s Gone Wrong This Season
Let’s recap how we got here:
• The 2025 Cardinals entered the year with modest optimism. After a middling 8–9 season in 2024, many fans thought with a healthier Kyler Murray and some new additions, they might push back toward respectability. 
• But through five games, the record is 2–3. 
• The losses sting because of how they’ve happened — the same mistakes, repeated. The Titans game was textbook heartbreak: Arizona was up two scores, only to have Tennessee mount a furious fourth-quarter comeback. 
• Key injuries are mounting: tight end Tip Reiman was carted off with an ankle injury vs. Tennessee.  Running back Trey Benson has been placed on IR (knee) and James Conner is already out for the season. 
• And this isn’t just a fluke: Even in the Titans loss, the offense was error-prone. Emari Demercado famously dropped a pass near the goal line and committed a costly fumble on what became a wild turnover sequence in the end zone — which turned into a Titans touchdown. 
So it’s not just “we lost” — it’s “we lost how we always lose.”
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The Fan Base Speaks: Disillusionment Rising
The chatter on X, in comment threads, on fan forums — it all echoes with anger, pain, and disillusionment. Here’s what’s being said out loud (or typed furiously):
• “You lost to a terrible team … same way three weeks in a row.” — a bitter lament many fans echo. 
• The discourse around Kyler Murray has turned vicious. Some blame him outright for lack of consistency, misreads, lack of leadership. Others try to defend him, citing injuries and poor coaching. Either way, his margin for error is microscopic, and many fans believe he’s not elevating the team anymore.
• Coaching and management are under fire. Why are the same breakdowns happening? Why do we look unprepared game after game? The phrase “complete reset” is popping up more often than you’d like to see from a fan base. 
• The running back room is a mess. Multiple injuries have forced patchwork replacements. The offensive line has been inconsistent. The playcalling has been criticized for being unimaginative or too passive.
• There’s an undercurrent of hopelessness creeping in. Some fans feel the franchise is stuck, cursed even. Others are already mentally writing off 2025 and starting to wonder: will things ever change?
A telling sign: after the Titans game, one fan wrote:
“I’m going to log off … this franchise has sucked too long.” 
That’s not the spite of a fair-weather fan — that’s someone mentally checked out.
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Why This Feels Worse Than in Years Past
Losing hurts always. But the anguish now has extra weight:
1. Expectations were higher. It’s not “rebuild mode” — people believed this roster had pieces, especially with Murray, McBride, and Harrison Jr., to at least be competitive.
2. Same patterns, new season. The sense that you’re watching a rerun of failure, week after week, is psychologically draining.
3. Talent-but-no-trust. Fans see that there are capable players on the roster. But they question whether the coaches or management believe in them or if they’re being misused.
4. Scarcity of wins. In a division with the 49ers and Seahawks, you need every win. Falling behind early is brutal for morale.
5. No playoff pedigree to lean on. The Cardinals haven’t had sustained postseason success. Every failure reinforces the narrative that this franchise underdelivers when it matters. (That’s a lot of weight to carry.) 
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What Must Change — Or Why It Might Be Too Late
Here’s what fans are demanding (and what the team needs to consider) — and yes, some of it sounds drastic:
• Coaching shake-up. Whether it’s the offensive coordinator, or bigger — change is needed. You can’t keep letting the same mistakes dictate outcomes.
• Offensive identity. Use Kyler more creatively, vary the playbook, open up the run/pass balance.
• Accountability in the run game. Demercado’s mistake was the latest. It’s a glaring example of execution failing under pressure. 
• Depth upgrades. Injuries are inevitable. The Cardinals need better backups and resilience.
• Trust in youth. Marvin Harrison Jr. is showing flashes. Let the younger players bear some load, make mistakes, grow. 
• A cultural reset. It’s not just about Xs and Os — it’s about mindset, confidence, identity. The fans want to believe again.
But — here’s the rub — time is against them. If things don’t change soon:
• The season could slip away faster than hope.
• The fan base will drift — fewer tunes, less engagement, more apathy.
• Pressure will mount on Murray, the coach, management.
• The team becomes another cautionary tale: full of talent, short on trust, doomed by pattern.
⸻
A Call from the Red Sea
Cardinals fans are warriors, even when disheartened. We love hard, we expect greatness, and we feel failure deeply. But this moment — this abyss of doubt — is a crossroads.
If the organization wants to salvage respect, repair faith, and reset momentum, it needs to act. Boldly. Transparently. Without excuses. The fans deserve that much.
Red Sea, don’t go silent. Keep your voice heard. Demand better. Hold accountable. But don’t lose hope entirely — because if we do, all that’s left is watching something collapse that once held dreams.
Let the desert heat be the forge that remakes this team — or let it scorch what’s left. The choice is theirs … and we’re watching closely.
The desert is tired.
The fans are hurting.
The fire’s still burning — but faith is fading.
We’re Sorry, Arizona.
The Red Sea deserves better.
The Desert’s Boiling Point: Cardinals Fans Are Losing Patience
They say football is a blood-sport — but right now, in Arizona, it feels more like emotional trauma. After another gutting loss, this time to the Tennessee Titans, the simmering frustration among Cardinals fans has boiled over. The mood across the Valley is dark, voices are rising, and hope is eroding fast.
⸻
A Quick Look: What’s Gone Wrong This Season
Let’s recap how we got here:
• The 2025 Cardinals entered the year with modest optimism. After a middling 8–9 season in 2024, many fans thought with a healthier Kyler Murray and some new additions, they might push back toward respectability. 
• But through five games, the record is 2–3. 
• The losses sting because of how they’ve happened — the same mistakes, repeated. The Titans game was textbook heartbreak: Arizona was up two scores, only to have Tennessee mount a furious fourth-quarter comeback. 
• Key injuries are mounting: tight end Tip Reiman was carted off with an ankle injury vs. Tennessee.  Running back Trey Benson has been placed on IR (knee) and James Conner is already out for the season. 
• And this isn’t just a fluke: Even in the Titans loss, the offense was error-prone. Emari Demercado famously dropped a pass near the goal line and committed a costly fumble on what became a wild turnover sequence in the end zone — which turned into a Titans touchdown. 
So it’s not just “we lost” — it’s “we lost how we always lose.”
⸻
The Fan Base Speaks: Disillusionment Rising
The chatter on X, in comment threads, on fan forums — it all echoes with anger, pain, and disillusionment. Here’s what’s being said out loud (or typed furiously):
• “You lost to a terrible team … same way three weeks in a row.” — a bitter lament many fans echo. 
• The discourse around Kyler Murray has turned vicious. Some blame him outright for lack of consistency, misreads, lack of leadership. Others try to defend him, citing injuries and poor coaching. Either way, his margin for error is microscopic, and many fans believe he’s not elevating the team anymore.
• Coaching and management are under fire. Why are the same breakdowns happening? Why do we look unprepared game after game? The phrase “complete reset” is popping up more often than you’d like to see from a fan base. 
• The running back room is a mess. Multiple injuries have forced patchwork replacements. The offensive line has been inconsistent. The playcalling has been criticized for being unimaginative or too passive.
• There’s an undercurrent of hopelessness creeping in. Some fans feel the franchise is stuck, cursed even. Others are already mentally writing off 2025 and starting to wonder: will things ever change?
A telling sign: after the Titans game, one fan wrote:
“I’m going to log off … this franchise has sucked too long.” 
That’s not the spite of a fair-weather fan — that’s someone mentally checked out.
⸻
Why This Feels Worse Than in Years Past
Losing hurts always. But the anguish now has extra weight:
1. Expectations were higher. It’s not “rebuild mode” — people believed this roster had pieces, especially with Murray, McBride, and Harrison Jr., to at least be competitive.
2. Same patterns, new season. The sense that you’re watching a rerun of failure, week after week, is psychologically draining.
3. Talent-but-no-trust. Fans see that there are capable players on the roster. But they question whether the coaches or management believe in them or if they’re being misused.
4. Scarcity of wins. In a division with the 49ers and Seahawks, you need every win. Falling behind early is brutal for morale.
5. No playoff pedigree to lean on. The Cardinals haven’t had sustained postseason success. Every failure reinforces the narrative that this franchise underdelivers when it matters. (That’s a lot of weight to carry.) 
⸻
What Must Change — Or Why It Might Be Too Late
Here’s what fans are demanding (and what the team needs to consider) — and yes, some of it sounds drastic:
• Coaching shake-up. Whether it’s the offensive coordinator, or bigger — change is needed. You can’t keep letting the same mistakes dictate outcomes.
• Offensive identity. Use Kyler more creatively, vary the playbook, open up the run/pass balance.
• Accountability in the run game. Demercado’s mistake was the latest. It’s a glaring example of execution failing under pressure. 
• Depth upgrades. Injuries are inevitable. The Cardinals need better backups and resilience.
• Trust in youth. Marvin Harrison Jr. is showing flashes. Let the younger players bear some load, make mistakes, grow. 
• A cultural reset. It’s not just about Xs and Os — it’s about mindset, confidence, identity. The fans want to believe again.
But — here’s the rub — time is against them. If things don’t change soon:
• The season could slip away faster than hope.
• The fan base will drift — fewer tunes, less engagement, more apathy.
• Pressure will mount on Murray, the coach, management.
• The team becomes another cautionary tale: full of talent, short on trust, doomed by pattern.
⸻
A Call from the Red Sea
Cardinals fans are warriors, even when disheartened. We love hard, we expect greatness, and we feel failure deeply. But this moment — this abyss of doubt — is a crossroads.
If the organization wants to salvage respect, repair faith, and reset momentum, it needs to act. Boldly. Transparently. Without excuses. The fans deserve that much.
Red Sea, don’t go silent. Keep your voice heard. Demand better. Hold accountable. But don’t lose hope entirely — because if we do, all that’s left is watching something collapse that once held dreams.
Let the desert heat be the forge that remakes this team — or let it scorch what’s left. The choice is theirs … and we’re watching closely.
The desert is tired.
The fans are hurting.
The fire’s still burning — but faith is fading.
We’re Sorry, Arizona.
The Red Sea deserves better.
not even cardinals fans can mistake Brissett for a "quality" veteran.
although, giving him a couple starts could highlight the possibilities in the offense...show folks what happens with a QB who will throw more than 5 yards downfield
and who are you again?
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Are we thinking about the same Jacoby Brissett?
gotta admit it has been a few years since I have watched him play. But I seem to recall in...Indy was it??...he wasnt afraid to sling the ball downfield...
and he had the interceptions to prove it
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Arizona Cardinals signed TE Nick Muse to practice squad
Nick Muse played for the Vikings from 2022-2024 and spent time on the Eagles' practice squad last season.
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That's a different Marv than we saw last year.
This guy is more confident, more outspoken.... he is growing up.
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Kyler Murray injury: Sports doctor says Arizona Cardinals QB has big toe issue
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So he's probably got turf toe and it probably means he's not going to be able to scramble or throw accurately beyond 6 yards.Kyler Murray injury: Sports doctor says Arizona Cardinals QB has big toe issue
Dr. David Chao speculates about what happened to Kyler Murray against the Titanscardswire.usatoday.com
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Hold onto the ball, Murray!
That's normal
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Struggling Cardinals Have NFL's Toughest Remaining Schedule
The Arizona Cardinals will need to flip the script.
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Jacoby Brissett has 'full trust' with Kyler Murray injured
With Kyler Murray missing a second straight day of practice with a foot issue, there’s a real chance Jacoby Brissett could start for the Cardinals.
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53 Career TDs to 24 INTs....and a 6.5 YPA....and 128 YPG. A real gunslinger.
In Indy his YPA ballooned to 6.6.
K1s Career YPA is 7, btw...and YPG 235.
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I don't think anyone would argue that Jacoby is more talented than K1. I think the mantra is some just want to see a different QB play. Maybe Kyler could learn from watching someone else navigate this offense even if it's for a half.
128 YPG if you count every game in which he appeared, which is 89 games, but he only had 53 starts. In games he started, Brissett has 202 YPG. So far this season, Murray has 192 YPG and since the Green Bay game in 2021, 223 YPG.
Brissett's career YPA is 6.5 and in the last season where he started 10+ games (Cleveland, 2022 - similar offense?) he had 6.99 YPA. Murray this season is at 6.0 YPA and since the Green Bay game in 2021, 6.6 YPA.
To be clear, Brissett is not a starting quality QB. But his career numbers aren't that far off from Murray's - in fact, better compared to Murray so far this season.
Regardless, I expect Sunday to be a disaster.
Good post Dave
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Cardinals should go after Breece Hall.
I can see Trey Benson out for another 4-5 weeks, even when he returns Hall would make a great 1-2 punch with Benson.
Demercado is obviously behind Carter, who the Cardinals didn’t think was even good enough to be on the 53.
Knight has been cut from how many teams?
I can see Trey Benson out for another 4-5 weeks, even when he returns Hall would make a great 1-2 punch with Benson.
Demercado is obviously behind Carter, who the Cardinals didn’t think was even good enough to be on the 53.
Knight has been cut from how many teams?
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Cardinals Corner: Is there a QB controversy brewing in Arizona?
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