2024 Draft Countdown/NFL Prospects thread

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In terms of the tackle question, I don't know that you should factor it is too much. If you love Fashanu as a prospect, it shouldn't matter that you drafted Paris. It might matter with drafting Alt if the Cardinals felt Paris was a better LT prospect than Alt is and would need to make a shift.
 

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Two contract situations which will impact our draft IMO.

1 - Marquise Brown. If he pops and Wilson pops it could be argued adding a WR would be less important. This matters because it looks like there will be a large number of first round WRs in this upcoming draft. Also, Brock Bowers. I can expand on this if you want but it is a system thing and I don't feel we have enough data yet.

2 - DJ Humphries. His restructure makes it tough to cut him next year. That wouldn't keep me from drafting Fashanu but it might keep Monti from doing it.
 

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Agree on DJ situation - seems like we have another 2 years.

I am skeptical that Brown can be a true #1. More like #2 but history of injuries and lack of production in any year (full stats) are reasons I wouldn't want to give him a big contract.
 

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I know MHJ is the bell of the ball at the WR position but Malik Nabers looks real damn good as well.
 
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I know MHJ is the bell of the ball at the WR position but Malik Nabers looks real damn good as well.
I've watched some Florida State games and Keon Coleman has looked really good as well. Although I'm always a bit dubious of the 'Big, Athletic, Contested Catch' college WRs. Doesn't always seem to transfer over as well to the NFL.
 

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Two contract situations which will impact our draft IMO.

1 - Marquise Brown. If he pops and Wilson pops it could be argued adding a WR would be less important. This matters because it looks like there will be a large number of first round WRs in this upcoming draft. Also, Brock Bowers. I can expand on this if you want but it is a system thing and I don't feel we have enough data yet.

2 - DJ Humphries. His restructure makes it tough to cut him next year. That wouldn't keep me from drafting Fashanu but it might keep Monti from doing it.

Deciding to keep Kyler it makes it easier to transition from Humphries. Also, if the Captain can stay healthy for 15+ games, it would be an exceptional trade asset with 2 years remaining on his deal, a little over $15 million per year in salary, 31 years old, and no guarantees.
 

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Pratt, this was last year as he's been injured this year, was as good as any QB I'd seen. That was his first game back for Tulane this year. The guy is a stud.
 

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I watched ND vs OSU because I wanted to see Joe Alt play since he would be in consideration for tackle as well. After watching nearly a full game of Alt I can say that he is mostly hype. He's a good, but not great tackle and doesn't compare to Fashanu.
Alt is going to be a great pro LT.
 

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Finally got to sit down and watch a Penn State game. Man, do they have some prospects!

Olumuyiwa Fashanu was simply dominant, both in the run game and especially in pass pro. No surprise why he's so highly rated, and he did it against a usually dominant Iowa D.

Drew Allar...man, I wish he were draft eligible after this year! He checks all the boxes and made pro throw after pro throw, including on a 4th and 2 when Franklin stupidly went for it. The designed play didn't work and the short option wasn't there, so he tossed a laser into the end zone. Magnificent.

The defensive end, #44--can't remember his name and too lazy to look it up--had himself a game as well. Pre-season All American, I believe they said, and he showed it. Could be a 1st rounder. The DC also had this formation where they lined the DEs up over the guards on passing downs sometimes, and it was highly effective.

A number of WR also stood out.

This team is looking good this season, and, a bit OT from prospect talk, might have the QB needed to finally beat both of the Big 10 bullies.

Finally got to sit down and watch a Penn State game. Man, do they have some prospects!

Olumuyiwa Fashanu was simply dominant, both in the run game and especially in pass pro. No surprise why he's so highly rated, and he did it against a usually dominant Iowa D.

Drew Allar...man, I wish he were draft eligible after this year! He checks all the boxes and made pro throw after pro throw, including on a 4th and 2 when Franklin stupidly went for it. The designed play didn't work and the short option wasn't there, so he tossed a laser into the end zone. Magnificent.

The defensive end, #44--can't remember his name and too lazy to look it up--had himself a game as well. Pre-season All American, I believe they said, and he showed it. Could be a 1st rounder. The DC also had this formation where they lined the DEs up over the guards on passing downs sometimes, and it was highly effective.

A number of WR also stood out.

This team is looking good this season, and, a bit OT from prospect talk, might have the QB needed to finally beat both of the Big 10 bullies.

Penn St. has a great shot to win the Big 10 this year. They have a nice team. But it won't be because of Allard. He's very good compared to the dreck you guys have had at QB but I've watched a couple games and he's nothing special.
The main thing against you guys winning the league is James Franklin.
 

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I'll give an update on some OSU prospects.
The 2 DE's JTT and Jack Sawyer have been non-factors the entire year. Their draft stock has to be plummeting. Don't know the deal with JTT but Sawyer just isn't athletic/twitchy enough.

CB Denzel Burke was great as a freshman but struggled mightily last year. Turns out he was playing dinged up all year. This year he's back to being a stud. ND wouldn't even test him on Saturday.

DT Michael Hall has been great but for some reason the coaching staff is limiting his PT. Most of OSU's pass rush this year has been generated by the interior DL.

Marvin: he's just the best. I heard someone say the scouts say it's comical how good he is and is the best WR by far. He'd have 2 more TD's if not for mistaken calls by the refs(Big 10 officials notified OSU after the fact they made mistakes on plays involving MHJ and both would have been TD's). He probably catches a TD against ND if he hadn't sprained his ankle a couple plays earlier. He was a 1/2 step away from the grab. Sure he gets it if healthy.

On a side note, I give the ND CB, #20, props. He's did as good a job on MHJ as anyone I've seen.
 

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Deciding to keep Kyler it makes it easier to transition from Humphries. Also, if the Captain can stay healthy for 15+ games, it would be an exceptional trade asset with 2 years remaining on his deal, a little over $15 million per year in salary, 31 years old, and no guarantees.
This is a good point.
 

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Two contract situations which will impact our draft IMO.

1 - Marquise Brown. If he pops and Wilson pops it could be argued adding a WR would be less important. This matters because it looks like there will be a large number of first round WRs in this upcoming draft. Also, Brock Bowers. I can expand on this if you want but it is a system thing and I don't feel we have enough data yet.

2 - DJ Humphries. His restructure makes it tough to cut him next year. That wouldn't keep me from drafting Fashanu but it might keep Monti from doing it.
I was thinking about the Hump issue earlier.... dude is getting older but based on history olinemen usually get to 35 or better... there is a dude at 40 right now IIRC...
But for the offense to be effective..we need a receiving TE, an all around/combo TE,...and a pure blocker TE.. Hump is a team player.... maybe switch dude to TE, we know he can block... a blocking TE is usually an OT with a bad kick slide anyway and is just an excuse to get another lineman on the field... But Hump likes his money...and a TE dont get scratch like an LT....he probably never do it, lol
 

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Dallas > Verse.
 
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