2021-22 Around the NBA Thread

[Mainstreet]

Portland didn't give up a lot for Larry Nance Jr. with the protected first round pick.

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[bankybruce]

I like what Cleveland gets in the trade the most... Lauri Markkanen.

I think you might be overrating Jones Jr a bit. He played pretty solid defense the 2 or 3 years he was in Miami but I wasn't impressed by him in Portland.

All the players involved have flaws but I like the trade better for both Cleveland and Portland right now. Granted, the Bulls got a protected first and a second rounder so the true loss or gain won't be known for awhile. Derrick is still only 24 so maybe he raises his game considerably from here on but if the Jones of the past is the best you get from this deal, I think you're going to be very disappointed down the road.

Regardless, Markkanen had to go, and this trade notwithstanding, the Bulls have had a very strong offseason.

Watching for 4 years, he's an often injured soft player who plays zero defense and is a streaky shooter at best.

Derek Jones Jr. will be thr 8th or 9th guy off the bench and we got back the second 1st rounder we gave up for Vucevic. I love this S&T and love how much Cleveland paid for him.

He's Dirk 0.5!

Now, I will say, I would rather have had Nace, but I trust this front office Jones Jr. is the right peice here.

 

[Mainstreet]

Vaccination rules for NBA personnel.

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[AzStevenCal]

Watching for 4 years, he's an often injured soft player who plays zero defense and is a streaky shooter at best.

Derek Jones Jr. will be thr 8th or 9th guy off the bench and we got back the second 1st rounder we gave up for Vucevic. I love this S&T and love how much Cleveland paid for him.

He's Dirk 0.5!

Now, I will say, I would rather have had Nace, but I trust this front office Jones Jr. is the right peice here.

The injuries and health problems worry me a lot but I think you overstate the lack of defense and the idea he's soft. He didn't look soft or horrible on defense at UA nor in Chicago his first season with Hoiberg. And not too many players thrived under Boylen. Donovan long term probably would have been good for him but Lauri needs to play alongside a good big man and moving him to small forward was never going to work IMO.

 

[Mainstreet]

Watching for 4 years, he's an often injured soft player who plays zero defense and is a streaky shooter at best.

Derek Jones Jr. will be thr 8th or 9th guy off the bench and we got back the second 1st rounder we gave up for Vucevic. I love this S&T and love how much Cleveland paid for him.

He's Dirk 0.5!

Now, I will say, I would rather have had Nace, but I trust this front office Jones Jr. is the right peice here.

I think Lauri Markkanen had more value but I like the Bulls other moves like adding Lonzo Ball, DeMar DeRozan and Nikola Vučević.

 

[bankybruce]

The injuries and health problems worry me a lot but I think you overstate the lack of defense and the idea he's soft. He didn't look soft or horrible on defense at UA nor in Chicago his first season with Hoiberg. And not too many players thrived under Boylen. Donovan long term probably would have been good for him but Lauri needs to play alongside a good big man and moving him to small forward was never going to work IMO.

I think he's a good kid, so I hope I'm wrong. Time will tell and I won't mind being wrong about him.

And you are 100% right about how bad Boylen was. That hiring got GarPax fired.

 

[bankybruce]

I think Lauri Markkanen had more value but I like the Bulls other moves like adding Lonzo Ball, DeMar DeRozan and Nikola Vučević.

The Bulls just wanted a 1st rounder knowing it was a time to move on. Everyone knew the Bulls and him wanted a fresh start and getting Jones, low risk-high reward, is a bonus. I wish him well, just don't see anything ore than a role player at this point. He thinks he's more.

 

[Mainstreet]

The Bulls just wanted a 1st rounder knowing it was a time to move on. Everyone knew the Bulls and him wanted a fresh start and getting Jones, low risk-high reward, is a bonus. I wish him well, just don't see anything ore than a role player at this point. He thinks he's more.

I understand it from the Bulls perspective. They are doing some good things in Chicago.

In the 2017 NBA draft I liked De'Aaron Fox at #4 but Markkanen was very close. Of course the Suns chose Josh Jackson.

I do think Markkanen can be more with the right team.

 

[Muggz]

I liked the Josh Jackson pick until...

 

[Mainstreet]

This is kind of funny. So if a player doesn't want to be in Chicago, how about Cleveland.

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[Ronin]

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[AzStevenCal]

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Wow, I just assumed they already were.

 

[Hoop Head]

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Let's hope Scott Foster is an anti-vaxxer.

 

[Mainstreet]

I guess the NBA is trying to eliminate as much risk as possible since players are not required to be vaccinated.


By AP via ESPN:


The agreement with the referees was revealed one day after the league told its teams that anyone within close proximity -- defined in most cases as being 15 feet -- of players and referees will have to be vaccinated. That mandate covers, among others, coaches, support staff traveling with teams, locker room attendants and those working at official scorer's tables in NBA arenas.

Players are not required to be fully vaccinated, although many were last season after the league encouraged them to do so by agreeing to relax some health and safety protocols for those who were -- including fewer mandated coronavirus tests, no quarantine requirements after contact tracing issues and more freedoms on road trips.

NBA to require refs to be vaccinated this season

NBA referees will be vaccinated against the coronavirus this season, and will also receive booster shots once those are recommended, the NBA announced Saturday.

www.espn.com

 

[Mainstreet]

Of course we knew something like this was coming.

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[Mainstreet]

Body camera video reportedly shows Los Angeles police use stun on Jaxson Hayes of the Pelicans.

Los Angeles police used stun gun on Pelicans' Jaxson Hayes, body camera video shows

Body camera video shows a Los Angeles police officer briefly pressing a knee to the neck of Pelicans player Jaxson Hayes during July arrest.

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[Ronin]

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[Mainstreet]

Svi Mykhailiuk agrees to two year contract with Raptors.

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[95pro]

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gasol and ariza are older and pretty much done.

rondo didn’t see much time in the playoffs too.

 

[GatorAZ]

I was wrong about Rondo making a difference for the Clippers. Westbrook and Rondo on the same team is just bizarre.

Lebron and Westbrook were already un-coachable, AD refuses to play the 5 full time and Rondo is in his own world. Good luck Frank.

 

[Mainstreet]

I was wrong about Rondo making a difference for the Clippers. Westbrook and Rondo on the same team is just bizarre.

Lebron and Westbrook were already un-coachable, AD refuses to play the 5 full time and Rondo is in his own world. Good luck Frank.

It seems like the Lakers prioritize adding talent first and making it work second. I don't think the Lakers worry much about coaching.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I was wrong about Rondo making a difference for the Clippers. Westbrook and Rondo on the same team is just bizarre.

Lebron and Westbrook were already un-coachable, AD refuses to play the 5 full time and Rondo is in his own world. Good luck Frank.

Don’t forget Howard. And ariza is a quitter.

 

[95pro]

I’m still baffled how Ariza gets to make that much money

 

[JCSunsfan]

I’m still baffled how Ariza gets to make that much money

There is a tendency in the NBA to pay players based upon what they once were, not what they presently are.

 

[Mainstreet]

If and when Ben Simmons gets traded this might trigger some other moves around the league.

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