2021 1st round pick is Zaven Collins

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    Lots of bad players have SB rings.

    DJ Foster has one.

    Michael Floyd has one.
     
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    yeah he was. below average = bad. how below average can ever = decent is beyond strange.
     
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    The stat that got him drafted by Keim.
     
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    I think there was a lot of other factors but this played a role. Collins has a lot to his game but being able to cover like he does at his size is rare.
     
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    Pass it on to TBay.

    And Floyd's issues were not talent related.
     
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    48 is such a weird number. Did he really only drop into coverage 48 times last season?
     
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    That's not what it says buddy
     
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    I’m expecting big things from Collins. Of course the last time I said that and got it right was about Boldin.
     
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    that’s not an answer. Why was 49 the qualifying number? How many coverage snaps did he have?
     
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    I'm guessing 49 is the qualifying number because there was some random guy that only play 48 coverage snaps that graded higher.

    I can't see how many he played as as he started for 3 season I'm guessing it's in the 100's.
     
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    Well, the stat cited was only for one season, but you disputed something you had no information on aside from your assumption.
     
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    To be fair you hated DWash.
     
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    Yup. And he had 2 good seasons and completely washed out of the league. The debates over whether Daryl Washington was the defensive leader we needed seem pretty silly right now.
     
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    Not due to his football ability though. When he was actually eligible to be on the field he was a good player.
     
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    You really have to be human garbage to be that good and not have anyone even take a chance on you. As many here said, Kevin Minter has hung around the bottom rungs of NFL rosters for the past 4 seasons.

    Washington was a one-dimensional rush inside linebacker, which isn't even really a position. Even in his exceptional 2012 season he was one of the worst coverage linebackers in the NFL.
     

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