2018 Cardinals' TEs and FBs

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2017 TE Receiving Stats:

Receptions: 33-Gresham; 12-Seals-Jones; 11-Niklas; 1-Momah
Yards: 322-Gresham; 201-Seals-Jones; 132-Niklas; 46-Momah
Yards per catch: 46.0-Momah; 16.8-Seals-Jones; 12.0-Niklas; 9.8-Gresham
TDs: 3-Seals-Jones; 2-Gresham; 1-Niklas

Analysis: The production of the Cardinals' 2017 TE group was the worst in the NFL. The Eagles' TE Zach Ertz had 17 more receptions, 123 more yards and 2 more TDs than the entire Cardinals' unit combined.

PFF Grades: Gresham (47.4, #45 TE); Niklas (42.4, #66 TE); Seals-Jones (76.3, NR).

Under Contract for 2018:

84 Gresham, Jermaine (6-5 260 29 9 Oklahoma)---last year the Cardinals awarded him a contract of 4/$28M/$16.5Mg. He counts $7.2M on the 2018 cap. By comparison, the Redskins signed defensive captain D.J. Swearinger to a contract of 3/$13M/$9Mg/2018 cap hit of $4.3M. Gresham's play in 2017 was wildly inconsistent in blocking and receiving. He's still penalty prone, but the Cardinals insist that they like the physical aspects of his play. Unfortunately, he ruptured an Achilles at the end of the year and it is possible he will not be a full go at the start of training camp.

85 Holmes, Gabe (6-5 255 26 4 Purdue)---signed by the Raiders as an undrafted free agent in 2015, Holmes has spent time on the Raiders', Seahawks', Ravens' and Cardinals' practice squads. he was activated to the Cardinals' roster late in the season after Gresham's injury. He has yet to record a reception in an NFL game. Has good size and athleticism, but is raw and inexperienced.

86 Seals-Jones, Ricky (6-5 243 22 2 Texas A&M)---was the nice surprise during the second half of the season, when he burst onto the scene with 12 catches for 201 yards and 3 TDs. He is now the brightest hope in what has become a depleted and underperforming group.

RFAs:

80 Momah, Ifeanyi (6-7 255 28 4 Boston College)---has the worst luck when it comes to injuries. Has turned heads in the pre-season the last few years but was lost to a broken wrist mid-way into the 2016 season and lost to a broken leg early in the 2017 season. When healthy he's an athletic, tall receiver who fights hard for every yard after the catch. His one catch on the season was a 46 yard dandy. His blocking remains a work in progress, but he has shown improvement.

UFA:

87 Niklas, Troy (6-6 270 25 5 Notre Dame)---the Cardinals 2014 2nd round draft pick has been a major disappointment due to years of injuries and inconsistent play. At times in 2017, Niklas looked like he was going to break out---but his blocking was inconsistent and he dropped what would have been a game winning TD versus Washington. Was supposed to be one of the best blocking TEs in the 2014 draft, but that promise has thus been unfulfilled. Not sure what kind of interest he will garner on the UFA market, but, in light of his injury history, signing him to a multi-year deal is a risk.

Top UFA TEs:

Jimmy Graham (31)---poor blocker who regressed as a receiver in Seattle.
Tyler Eifert (27)---coming off 2 back surgeries, when healthy he's a very good receiver.
Austin Seferian-Jenkins (25)---tall and athletic TE had a good season with the Jets who want him back.
Trey Burton (26)---hybrid TE/WR who creates mismatches against LBers and smaller DBs.
Virgil Green (29)---has yet to have a breakout season, but has talent and works hard.
Niles Paul (28)---smallish TE who has 856 yards and 2 TDs for his career (12.2 ypc)
Luke Willson (28)---showed promise as a pass catcher but injuries and drops have been an obstacle.
Antonio Gates (37)---still feels he has "the juice" to play, now overshadowed in LA by Hunter Henry. McCoy interested?
Ed Dickson (30)---has ties to Wilks/Brown as Panther's #2 TE, had a line of 30/437/14.6/1 TD in 2017. One game versus the Lions he caught 5 passes for 155 yards.
Darren Fells (31)---speaking of the Lions, Fells started the season strong, has 2 TDs versus Carolina, maybe Wilks/Holcomb/Brown took notice. The Lions at times flexed him wide. Wasn't targeted much 2nd half of season.

Top TEs in 2018 NFL Draft: (Per Mel Kiper's Rankings, with my notes)

1. Dallas Goedert, South Dakota State---2 1,000 yard seasons in a row with 18 TDs combined---some teams have medical concerns on him.
2. *Mark Andrews, Oklahoma---athletic seam buster (62/958/8TD in 2017), Mayfield's favorite target. Not a strong blocker.
3. *Hayden Hurst, South Carolina---turns 25 this year, solid blocker and productive receiver (44/559/2TD in 2017)
4. Mike Gesicki, Penn State---had a good showing at the Senior Bowl after good senior season (57/563/9TD).
5. *Jordan Akins, Central Florida---smallish H-back type who catches well (32/515/4 TDs).
6. Ian Thomas, Indiana---athletic pass catcher (25/376/5TD) who didn't quite live up to the hype at Indiana.

UFA Fullbacks

Anthony Sherman
(29)---still one of the top 3 FBs in the NFL, would love to have him back in AZ.
Zach Line (27)---has developed nicely, clearing space for Ingram and Kamara in New Orleans.
Mike Tolbert (32)---despite age he's still a top shelf lead blocker, ask Shady McCoy. If we sign QB Tyrod Taylor it would be great to have Tolbert come with him.
Derrick Coleman (27)---has sprung the Falcons' Freeman and Coleman on some big runs.

Top FBs in 2017 NFL Draft: (per Mel Kiper's ranking with my notes)

1. Jaylen Samuels, NC State-
--more of an H-back/TE, but exceptionally versatile and productive.
2. Dimitri Flowers, Oklahoma---highly versatile as well, very productive in red zone. Strong, thick and muscular player who can run, block and catch.
3. Nick Bawden, San Diego State---physical, well coached, had a solid week at Senior Bowl and showed why he helped Rashaad Penny lead the nation in rushing.
4. DeAndre Goolsby, Florida
5.
Khalid Hill, Michigan
6.
Austin Ramesh, Wisconsin
7.
Deon Yelder, Western Kentucky
8.
Daniel Marx, Stanford
9.
Marcus Martin, Slippery Rock
10.
Donnie Ernsberger, Western Michigan

Summary:
The Cardinals will now be using a more traditional offense where the TEs will be featured more in the passing game and in running situations a FB will be used to isolation block on the Bobby Wagners of the world. Thus, Steve Keim and Steve Wilks need to make a few strong additions to the TE/FB group via FA and the draft.
 
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2017 TE Receiving Stats:

Receptions: 33-Gresham; 12-Seals-Jones; 11-Niklas; 1-Momah
Yards: 322-Gresham; 201-Seals-Jones; 132-Niklas; 46-Momah
Yards per catch: 46.0-Momah; 16.8-Seals-Jones; 12.0-Niklas; 9.8-Gresham
TDs: 3-Seals-Jones; 2-Gresham; 1-Niklas

Analysis: The production of the Cardinals' 2017 TE group was the worst in the NFL. The Eagles' TE Zach Ertz had 17 more receptions, 123 more yards and 2 more TDs than the entire Cardinals' unit combined.

PFF Grades: Gresham (47.4, #45 TE); Niklas (42.4, #66 TE); Seals-Jones (76.3, NR).

Under Contract for 2018:

84 Gresham, Jermaine (6-5 260 29 9 Oklahoma)---last year the Cardinals awarded him a contract of 4/$28M/$16.5Mg. He counts $7.2M on the 2018 cap. By comparison, the Redskins signed defensive captain D.J. Swearinger to a contract of 3/$13M/$9Mg/2018 cap hit of $4.3M. Gresham's play in 2017 was wildly inconsistent in blocking and receiving. He's still penalty prone, but the Cardinals insist that they like the physical aspects of his play. Unfortunately, he ruptured an Achilles at the end of the year and it is possible he will not be a full go at the start of training camp.

85 Holmes, Gabe (6-5 255 26 4 Purdue)---signed by the Raiders as an undrafted free agent in 2015, Holmes has spent time on the Raiders', Seahawks', Ravens' and Cardinals' practice squads. he was activated to the Cardinals' roster late in the season after Gresham's injury. He has yet to record a reception in an NFL game. Has good size and athleticism, but is raw and inexperienced.

86 Seals-Jones, Ricky (6-5 243 22 2 Texas A&M)---was the nice surprise during the second half of the season, when he burst onto the scene with 12 catches for 201 yards and 3 TDs. He is now the brightest hope in what has become a depleted and underperforming group.

RFAs:

80 Momah, Ifeanyi (6-7 255 28 4 Boston College)---has the worst luck when it comes to injuries. Has turned heads in the pre-season the last few years but was lost to a broken wrist mid-way into the 2016 season and lost to a broken leg early in the 2017 season. When healthy he's an athletic, tall receiver who fights hard for every yard after the catch. His one catch on the season was a 46 yard dandy. His blocking remains a work in progress, but he has shown improvement.

UFA:

87 Niklas, Troy (6-6 270 25 5 Notre Dame)---the Cardinals 2014 2nd round draft pick has been a major disappointment due to years of injuries and inconsistent play. At times in 2017, Niklas looked like he was going to break out---but his blocking was inconsistent and he dropped what would have been a game winning TD versus Washington. Was supposed to be one of the best blocking TEs in the 2014 draft, but that promise has thus been unfulfilled. Not sure what kind of interest he will garner on the UFA market, but, in light of his injury history, signing him to a multi-year deal is a risk.

Top UFA TEs:

Jimmy Graham (31)---poor blocker who regressed as a receiver in Seattle.
Tyler Eifert (27)---coming off 2 back surgeries, when healthy he's a very good receiver.
Austin Seferian-Jenkins (25)---tall and athletic TE had a good season with the Jets who want him back.
Trey Burton (26)---hybrid TE/WR who creates mismatches against LBers and smaller DBs.
Virgil Green (29)---has yet to have a breakout season, but has talent and works hard.
Niles Paul (28)---smallish TE who has 856 yards and 2 TDs for his career (12.2 ypc)
Luke Willson (28)---showed promise as a pass catcher but injuries and drops have been an obstacle.
Antonio Gates (37)---still feels he has "the juice" to play, now overshadowed in LA by Hunter Henry. McCoy interested?
Ed Dickson (30)---has ties to Wilks/Brown as Panther's #2 TE, had a line of 30/437/14.6/1 TD in 2017. One game versus the Lions he caught 5 passes for 155 yards.
Darren Fells (31)---speaking of the Lions, Fells started the season strong, has 2 TDs versus Carolina, maybe Wilks/Holcomb/Brown took notice. The Lions at times flexed him wide. Wasn't targeted much 2nd half of season.

Top TEs in 2018 NFL Draft: (Per Mel Kiper's Rankings, with my notes)

1. Dallas Goedert, South Dakota State---2 1,000 yard seasons in a row with 18 TDs combined---some teams have medical concerns on him.
2. *Mark Andrews, Oklahoma---athletic seam buster (62/958/8TD in 2017), Mayfield's favorite target. Not a strong blocker.
3. *Hayden Hurst, South Carolina---turns 25 this year, solid blocker and productive receiver (44/559/2TD in 2017)
4. Mike Gesicki, Penn State---had a good showing at the Senior Bowl after good senior season (57/563/9TD).
5. *Jordan Akins, Central Florida---smallish H-back type who catches well (32/515/4 TDs).
6. Ian Thomas, Indiana---athletic pass catcher (25/376/5TD) who didn't quite live up to the hype at Indiana.

UFA Fullbacks

Anthony Sherman
(29)---still one of the top 3 FBs in the NFL, would love to have him back in AZ.
Zach Line (27)---has developed nicely, clearing space for Ingram and Kamara in New Orleans.
Mike Tolbert (32)---despite age he's still a top shelf lead blocker, ask Shady McCoy. If we sign QB Tyrod Taylor it would be great to have Tolbert come with him.
Derrick Coleman (27)---has sprung the Falcons' Freeman and Coleman on some big runs.

Top FBs in 2017 NFL Draft: (per Mel Kiper's ranking with my notes)

1. Jaylen Samuels, NC State-
--more of an H-back/TE, but exceptionally versatile and productive.
2. Dimitri Flowers, Oklahoma---highly versatile as well, very productive in red zone. Strong, thick and muscular player who can run, block and catch.
3. Nick Bawden, San Diego State---physical, well coached, had a solid week at Senior Bowl and showed why he helped Rashaad Penny lead the nation in rushing.
4. DeAndre Goolsby, Florida
5.
Khalid Hill, Michigan
6.
Austin Ramesh, Wisconsin
7.
Deon Yelder, Western Kentucky
8.
Daniel Marx, Stanford
9.
Marcus Martin, Slippery Rock
10.
Donnie Ernsberger, Western Michigan

Summary:
The Cardinals will now be using a more traditional offense where the TEs will be featured more in the passing game and in running situations a FB will be used to isolation block on the Bobby Wagners of the world. Thus, Steve Keim and Steve Wilks need to make a few strong additions to the TE/FB group via FA and the draft.[/QUOTE

The lovefest for RSJ is beyond stupid.The kid can`t block his way out of a paper bag and you people slobber over him like he is Antonio Gates or something.He caught some passes BFD.I don`t see it at all.
 
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QUOTE: BW52 - The lovefest for RSJ is beyond stupid.The kid can`t block his way out of a paper bag and you people slobber over him like he is Antonio Gates or something.He caught some passes BFD.I don`t see it at all. QUOTE


RSJ did pretty damn good for an undrafted rookie. He is a BFD for that reason alone. I don't see anyone slobbering around here for him.
 
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2017 TE Receiving Stats:

Top UFA TEs:

Jimmy Graham (31)---poor blocker who regressed as a receiver in Seattle.
Tyler Eifert (27)---coming off 2 back surgeries, when healthy he's a very good receiver.
Austin Seferian-Jenkins (25)---tall and athletic TE had a good season with the Jets who want him back.
Trey Burton (26)---hybrid TE/WR who creates mismatches against LBers and smaller DBs.
Virgil Green (29)---has yet to have a breakout season, but has talent and works hard.
Niles Paul (28)---smallish TE who has 856 yards and 2 TDs for his career (12.2 ypc)
Luke Willson (28)---showed promise as a pass catcher but injuries and drops have been an obstacle.
Antonio Gates (37)---still feels he has "the juice" to play, now overshadowed in LA by Hunter Henry. McCoy interested?
Ed Dickson (30)---has ties to Wilks/Brown as Panther's #2 TE, had a line of 30/437/14.6/1 TD in 2017. One game versus the Lions he caught 5 passes for 155 yards.
Darren Fells (31)---speaking of the Lions, Fells started the season strong, has 2 TDs versus Carolina, maybe Wilks/Holcomb/Brown took notice. The Lions at times flexed him wide. Wasn't targeted much 2nd half of season.

Top TEs in 2018 NFL Draft: (Per Mel Kiper's Rankings, with my notes)

1. Dallas Goedert, South Dakota State---2 1,000 yard seasons in a row with 18 TDs combined---some teams have medical concerns on him.
2. *Mark Andrews, Oklahoma---athletic seam buster (62/958/8TD in 2017), Mayfield's favorite target. Not a strong blocker.
3. *Hayden Hurst, South Carolina---turns 25 this year, solid blocker and productive receiver (44/559/2TD in 2017)
4. Mike Gesicki, Penn State---had a good showing at the Senior Bowl after good senior season (57/563/9TD).
5. *Jordan Akins, Central Florida---smallish H-back type who catches well (32/515/4 TDs).
6. Ian Thomas, Indiana---athletic pass catcher (25/376/5TD) who didn't quite live up to the hype at Indiana.

Gesicki will be he first or second TE off the draft board. Could even go mid to late in the first round. Not only can he catch and provides a big target in the red zone he can block.
 

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Gesicki will be he first or second TE off the draft board. Could even go mid to late in the first round. Not only can he catch and provides a big target in the red zone he can block.

Keep an eye on Troy Fumagalli from Wi. Last year he was the talk of the college TEs, this year he was slowed considerably by the lack of a QB who could target him, so they leaned heavy on the run game. I do not watch a lot of Badger football as I am a Sun Devils fan, but could be someone to keep an eye on.
 
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If we bring all four back we should be fine at TE. Both Momah and Seals Jones are good receivers that can get open and both Nicklas and Gresham are good blockers and decent receivers as well. To me this is one of the few areas on the team that I'm not worried about.
 

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I would like to see one of the UFA FB's signed assuming they're cheap rather than using one of our draft picks on one. Burton would be a nice addition, but from what I hear he is going to get more money than I would be willing to offer. So proud of myself for not bringing up Gresham and how awful that signing was.... Crap!
 
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