McBride Lowballed Thought About Leaving

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If a team member of mine is performing above market value they never have to ask for a raise. I don’t even wait for that because if they are good they are in demand and they will be hired elsewhere.

McBride was arguably the best TE in football on a horrible team with a bad reputation of being cheap and not player friendly.

The Cards don’t have the luxury of doing things like low balling great talent.
Lots of teams would LOVE McBride.
 

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A lot of handwringing over nothing… They kept the talent did they not?
The end result is fine - the process is incredibly stupid. Retaining arguably the best TE in football was the easiest choice that this FO has had to make. Why mess around and build bad will by lowballing? He was going to make top 5 money at the position regardless, as he's earned it. It might not matter now, but his odds of staying for his next contract seem much greater if you don't mess around with negotiations this time.

I would have a much bigger issue paying someone like Paris Johnson top 5 money, who is maybe in the 15-20 at his position, and simply doesn't deserve top 5 money.
 

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Nothing against the Cards, but in general, any really talented player that is drafted onto a losing franchise, why don't they have plans to exit after their rookie contract is up? I bet a lot of guys have that reaction like McBride. McBride is just honest about talking about it. I'm one of those people that don't forget. I would have a grudge against the GM for awhile.
 

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Nothing against the Cards, but in general, any really talented player that is drafted onto a losing franchise, why don't they have plans to exit after their rookie contract is up? I bet a lot of guys have that reaction like McBride. McBride is just honest about talking about it. I'm one of those people that don't forget. I would have a grudge against the GM for awhile.
There’s a lot of risk involved in betting on yourself. Especially for mid-round picks.

A high ankle sprain or something could mean that $12 million contract is your new ceiling.
 

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You're a business owner. If one of your employees asks for a raise, do you start low to save a buck hoping they accept or do you offer top dollar right out the gate?
I think the true answer is in the middle. If I have an employee who is awesome and driving sales revenue, I may not start at the top of the market, but I am not starting at the bottom either. I may not offer a salary commensurate with a more tenured employee who has put up similar numbers for years, but I do want to show that I recognize the impact and performance. So if entry is entry is 50k an top is 100k, I probably start at the 85k to 90k mark. When it comes to people, I don't treat it like a flea market and try to haggle down to the lowest dollar possible. It should be about a relationship.
 

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If a team member of mine is performing above market value they never have to ask for a raise. I don’t even wait for that because if they are good they are in demand and they will be hired elsewhere.

McBride was arguably the best TE in football on a horrible team with a bad reputation of being cheap and not player friendly.

The Cards don’t have the luxury of doing things like low balling great talent.
I also think if the Cardinals had a lot of really good players on the roster that made the financial crunch more challenging, it could be more of a convo. But that isn't the case.
 

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I think the true answer is in the middle. If I have an employee who is awesome and driving sales revenue, I may not start at the top of the market, but I am not starting at the bottom either. I may not offer a salary commensurate with a more tenured employee who has put up similar numbers for years, but I do want to show that I recognize the impact and performance. So if entry is entry is 50k an top is 100k, I probably start at the 85k to 90k mark. When it comes to people, I don't treat it like a flea market and try to haggle down to the lowest dollar possible. It should be about a relationship.
Good breakdown of the scenario. Interesting to add that the employee did better with a backup colleague than the first guy he was tasked to work with. ;)
 

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Good breakdown of the scenario. Interesting to add that the employee did better with a backup colleague than the first guy he was tasked to work with. ;)
Meh. I don't think about Murray much right now. It didn't work in AZ. Some of that was his fault. Some if it was the organization. I don't really care to debate how that split looks. Guys will produce or they won't. It's up to them to prove it. I follow the league so I am interested to see how/if Kyler changes his game in MN.
 

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i don't like agents - but mcbride didn't get a can of beans for a contract - he got paid - he got paid AND made it to camp on time

i usually don't suggest stupid ish that will never happen - i try and keep that to myself but if mcbride wants his best shot at another outstanding all star year - he may want to introduce his agent to his quarterback

maybe monti should raise his final offer by 5% if brissett agrees to use it on a agent - because we're getting close to crunch time here - does jacoby even have the playbook?

who cares what monti offered first - whoever has to make the first offer is not in a position of power - unless you open with a can of beans - power shift lol

who cares period? deal is done
 

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At least the NFL doesn't have the drama of dealing with arbitration like in the MLB. Even for the good players, up and comers, even with the good teams, it's a tough process. McBride got paid. He should be very happy and drinking the Kool Aid instead of bringing negativity. And yes, intro Brisket to his agent. Players without agents - they're just asking for things not to go well.
 
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At least the NFL doesn't have the drama of dealing arbitration like in the MLB. Even for the good players, up and comers, even with the good teams, it's a tough process. McBride got paid. He should be very happy and drinking the Kool Aid instead of bringing negativity. And yes, intro Brisket to his agent. Players without agents - they're just asking for things not to go well.
Tex, I agree with you about bringing negativity. I don't know how old you are but I'm a boomer. Parenting, along with discipline has changed. Kids are smarter than we were overall due to the internet and access to cell phones. Common curtesy and modesty are unfortunately becoming extinct.
 

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Tex, I agree with you about bringing negativity. I don't know how old you are but I'm a boomer. Parenting, along with discipline has changed. Kids are smarter than we were overall due to the internet and access to cell phones. Common curtesy and modesty are unfortunately becoming extinct.
I don't know if the internet has made them smarter or not. :D. But, it definitely has made them more o.....
 

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It's just baffling that people think his (McBride) bad mouthing his team is okay. How much did MB pay him? Negotiations can get messy. Grow the crap up. But if my team decided to pay me the most ever for the position, once the process is complete I don't think he should be anything but grateful and go out and play his #ss off and be a positive face of the franchise.
 

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It's just baffling that people think his (McBride) bad mouthing his team is okay. How much did MB pay him? Negotiations can get messy. Grow the crap up. But if my team decided to pay me the most ever for the position, once the process is complete I don't think he should be anything but grateful and go out and play his #ss off and be a positive face of the franchise.

It's the social media age. People feel they should say how they feel to get clicks.
 

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