Official Kyler Murray career thread.... (post Cardinals/Vikes)

[Brian in Mesa]

Just to be clear, you’re saying that the only outcome that matters — at all — is winning the Super Bowl?

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That's the goal every year. Successful franchises have at least one, right?

 

[Brian in Mesa]

And 9 wins is a historically down year for them.

They have played 65 seasons. 31 times they have won 9 games or more. 34 times they have won 8 games or less.

 

[kerouac9]

That's the goal every year. Successful franchises have at least one, right?

Say it if you mean it:

Every year 31 teams are failures and one is a success.

 

[Adrian]

Say it if you mean it:

Every year 31 teams are failures and one is a success.

If you're not first, you're last

 

[Cheesebeef]

They've done nothing truly impactful sine the league merger, just like the Cardinals franchise. They've managed to not change cities. That's about it. Congrats?

They went to the Super Bowl 3 times since the merger. But hell, let's just confine this to the time the Cardinals have been in Arizona.

Since 1988, the Vikings have made the playoffs 19 of 38 times, with 4 NFC title game appearances. That's making the playoffs 50% of the time. That makes them a perenial playoff team... for almost four decades.

The Cardinals have made it to the playoffs 6 times in 38 years. That gets us into the playoffs... 15% of the time. That makes us a perennial laughingstock.

If you can't see the difference between the franchises, I don't know what to tell you.

 

[PDXChris]

If you're not first, you're last

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[PDXChris]

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[some dumb guy]

They went to the Super Bowl 3 times since the merger. But hell, let's just confine this to the time the Cardinals have been in Arizona.

Since 1988, the Vikings have made the playoffs 19 of 38 times, with 4 NFC title game appearances. That's making the playoffs 50% of the time. That makes them a perenial playoff team... for almost four decades.

The Cardinals have made it to the playoffs 6 times in 38 years. That gets us into the playoffs... 15% of the time. That makes us a perennial laughingstock.

If you can't see the difference between the franchises, I don't know what to tell you.

So, we have a chance....

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

Not sure where this certitude that Kyler Murray quit and refused to be the backup is coming from. It's far more likely Michael sat him down rather than risk injury and guaranteeing the whole contract

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

But even that is up for debate. We can only infer from Gannon's sudden pivot

 

[Crimson Warrior]

If you're not first, you're last

Aw hell Ricky Bobby I was high when I said that!

 

[Brian in Mesa]

They went to the Super Bowl 3 times since the merger. But hell, let's just confine this to the time the Cardinals have been in Arizona.

Since 1988, the Vikings have made the playoffs 19 of 38 times, with 4 NFC title game appearances. That's making the playoffs 50% of the time. That makes them a perenial playoff team... for almost four decades.

The Cardinals have made it to the playoffs 6 times in 38 years. That gets us into the playoffs... 15% of the time. That makes us a perennial laughingstock.

If you can't see the difference between the franchises, I don't know what to tell you.

They've been to 4 Super Bowls. All in the 1970s. So, they were really good 50 plus years ago. 70, 74, 75, and 77. Same winning percentage in the big game as the Cardinals. This is a results-driven league and being really good but not winning it all doesn't do much to separate you from the perennial doormats in the league who get good every once in a long while.

 

[602 Native]

They have played 65 seasons. 31 times they have won 9 games or more. 34 times they have won 8 games or less.

This might be the most disingenuous reply in the history of this site, and that’s saying something.

 

[kerouac9]

This is a results-driven league and being really good but not winning it all doesn't do much to separate you from the perennial doormats in the league who get good every once in a long while.

You don’t believe this you’re just bored and want to argue online for a while.

You don’t believe that last season was no different from the Super Bowl season.

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

In fact, with the way stuff gets leaked out by the team after someone leaves, I would say it's unlikely that he quit or refused to be the backup.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

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[some dumb guy]

Is the Viking franchise four times better or worse that our franchise?

Super Bowls:

Vikings 0-4
Cards 0-1

Ok, no one jumped on this, so I'll give it a try:
Mathmatically the win goes to the cards
Philosophically the win goes to the Vikes

So, for me the win goes to the cards, just for the fact of the weeklong depression I went through after that SB loss. I would have loved going to the SB 4 times, but not if it meant losing all 4...that's brutal.

 

[some dumb guy]

This might be the most disingenuous reply in the history of this site, and that’s saying something.

Oh, I'm sooo disappointed. I've had waay more disingenuous posts than this...LOL

 

[Brian in Mesa]

In fact, with the way stuff gets leaked out by the team after someone leaves, I would say it's unlikely that he quit or refused to be the backup.

He quit in his lone playoff game. He refused to go back in during garbage time and made Colt go into the game. He quit on his team and teammates in that moment because he was embarrassed by his own poor play in the game. And we rewarded him for it. SMH.

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

He quit in his lone playoff game. He refused to go back in during garbage time and made Colt go into the game. He quit on his team and teammates in that moment because he was embarrassed by his own poor play in the game. And we rewarded him for it. SMH.

That specific game I would agree he handled that loss as badly as possible. The inference here is that Kyler quit last season and I just see that as the unlikely outcome between legit injured, team sat him, and he quit.

 

[602 Native]

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Can you have AI put Brissett on the field.

Might not be possible.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

That specific game I would agree he handled that loss as badly as possible. The inference here is that Kyler quit last season and I just see that as the unlikely outcome between legit injured, team sat him, and he quit.

I think it was more like everyone knew he was going to be gone. Just waiting until we could dump that bad contract - and eat much of it - just to be rid of him. Bad deal all around except for Murray's bank account.

 

[Phrazbit]

No we’re not

lol, we absolutely were.

We finally make the playoffs and he quits during the game.

We extend him and have to put a video game clause in the contract.

Cardinals career ends because he took a football off the face. He sees one game of his backup playing better than he had been so he quits… again.

 

[602 Native]

lol, we absolutely were.

We finally make the playoffs and he quits during the game.

We extend him and have to put a video game clause in the contract.

Cardinals career ends because he took a football off the face. He sees one game of his backup playing better than he had been so he quits… again.

I’ll use one simple guide.

How many national games did we get before, during and after K1?

 

[Phrazbit]

I’ll use one simple guide.

How many national games did we get before, during and after K1?

That does not matter one iota.

I don't recall anyone sitting back and saying to themselves... sure, our QB runs around like a toddler in trouble and constantly quits... but hey, we're on thursday night this week!

I don't give half a squirt about that crap.