Gandhi mock draft

[Stout]

I agree, but I don't think you avoid OL.

Smart teams take good OL high and often.

Agreed, but there are no top OT in the draft to be had. Good teams don't overdraft OL high either. Now, if we're talking taking my guy from Penn State at OG, okay, he's a top OL prospect. But again, that's with a trade down away from Big John territory.

 

[Stout]

Its harder to develop late round OL overall though, just like any other position for the most part.

Not really. Look across the league and a lot of good teams have later round picks starting on their lines. Hell, the Stillers have found some good LTs that were undrafted.

 

[Gandhi]

First round

In the game we are only allowed to use picks from this year to trade, so it would have cost a potential buyer most of their entire draft to buy my pick. Not surprisingly, nobody wanted to do that.

With the #3 pick the Arizona Cardinals select

Monroe Freeling, offensive tackle, Georgia

So, also not surprisingly, I chose the top ranked player. My biggest worry with Freeling is that he has played on the left for all his games at Georgia, while players like Blake Miller and Iheanachor are naturally right sided. However, Freeling is the most talented, with the biggest developmental potential, and the only OT who meets the value of the #3 overall pick.

No matter if it is Brissett, or if I draft a QB later, he must be better protected than last season. It was embarrassing to see Jonah Williams – or anyone else playing RT – get beaten over and over and over again. It’s fine that they have brought in multiple offensive linemen, but none of them are even close to the talent Freeling is.

 

[Denny Green Fan]

First round

In the game we are only allowed to use picks from this year to trade, so it would have cost a potential buyer most of their entire draft to buy my pick. Not surprisingly, nobody wanted to do that.

With the #3 pick the Arizona Cardinals select

Monroe Freeling, offensive tackle, Georgia

So, also not surprisingly, I chose the top ranked player. My biggest worry with Freeling is that he has played on the left for all his games at Georgia, while players like Blake Miller and Iheanachor are naturally right sided. However, Freeling is the most talented, with the biggest developmental potential, and the only OT who meets the value of the #3 overall pick.

No matter if it is Brissett, or if I draft a QB later, he must be better protected than last season. It was embarrassing to see Jonah Williams – or anyone else playing RT – get beaten over and over and over again. It’s fine that they have brought in multiple offensive linemen, but none of them are even close to the talent Freeling is.

I can dig it….

 

[oaken1]

First round

In the game we are only allowed to use picks from this year to trade, so it would have cost a potential buyer most of their entire draft to buy my pick. Not surprisingly, nobody wanted to do that.

With the #3 pick the Arizona Cardinals select

Monroe Freeling, offensive tackle, Georgia

So, also not surprisingly, I chose the top ranked player. My biggest worry with Freeling is that he has played on the left for all his games at Georgia, while players like Blake Miller and Iheanachor are naturally right sided. However, Freeling is the most talented, with the biggest developmental potential, and the only OT who meets the value of the #3 overall pick.

No matter if it is Brissett, or if I draft a QB later, he must be better protected than last season. It was embarrassing to see Jonah Williams – or anyone else playing RT – get beaten over and over and over again. It’s fine that they have brought in multiple offensive linemen, but none of them are even close to the talent Freeling is.

You lookin to get Monti's azz kicked

 

[Stout]

First round

In the game we are only allowed to use picks from this year to trade, so it would have cost a potential buyer most of their entire draft to buy my pick. Not surprisingly, nobody wanted to do that.

With the #3 pick the Arizona Cardinals select

Monroe Freeling, offensive tackle, Georgia

So, also not surprisingly, I chose the top ranked player. My biggest worry with Freeling is that he has played on the left for all his games at Georgia, while players like Blake Miller and Iheanachor are naturally right sided. However, Freeling is the most talented, with the biggest developmental potential, and the only OT who meets the value of the #3 overall pick.

No matter if it is Brissett, or if I draft a QB later, he must be better protected than last season. It was embarrassing to see Jonah Williams – or anyone else playing RT – get beaten over and over and over again. It’s fine that they have brought in multiple offensive linemen, but none of them are even close to the talent Freeling is.

Freeling at 3 would be so gross. Like walking into a store on Rodeo Drive and asking where the discount aisle is.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Not really. Look across the league and a lot of good teams have later round picks starting on their lines. Hell, the Stillers have found some good LTs that were undrafted.

Yes, but the point is that the early round guys generally are more talented and if you look at the draft by round, there is a direct correlation between drafted round and chances of success.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Agreed, but there are no top OT in the draft to be had. Good teams don't overdraft OL high either. Now, if we're talking taking my guy from Penn State at OG, okay, he's a top OL prospect. But again, that's with a trade down away from Big John territory.

If Bailey is gone, I'm out on most of the drafts players in round one.

The Cardinals aren't taking Love or Downs, I just don't see that happening. So OL is the way to go if you consider what the Cardinals will actually do.

This is a weak draft, I'm happy with walking away with a good starter.

 

[slanidrac16]

You can get a good running back on draft day 2 (2nd and 3rd rounds). In fact that is when most are chosen. However, the really great ones usually went in the first round. I'm clueless on what the Cards are going to do as very little information comes out from them. Bottom line is I do like RB Love and he will go very high in the draft but I don't think the Cards are gong to draft him. Like it or not IMO Tyler Allgeier is going to be their number one RB.

You mean like Benson???

 

[Gandhi]

Freeling at 3 would be so gross. Like walking into a store on Rodeo Drive and asking where the discount aisle is.

Have you studied him, compared with how he would fit in LaFleur's likely system, and recognized Ossenfort's tendencies and taken them into account, or are you going by what you have read Mel Kiper says?

Not trying to be annoying. I am just wondering what I am missing that you have seen?

 

[Stout]

Have you studied him, compared with how he would fit in LaFleur's likely system, and recognized Ossenfort's tendencies and taken them into account, or are you going by what you have read Mel Kiper says?

Not trying to be annoying. I am just wondering what I am missing that you have seen?

There is no blue chip OT prospect in the draft. I don't need to take system fit into account to know that. I want us to draft a Big John, not a decent player. Chances are that's not an OT at 3.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Freeling at 3 would be so gross. Like walking into a store on Rodeo Drive and asking where the discount aisle is.

We are the clearance rack of the NFL

 

[Denny Green Fan]

You mean like Benson???

Or David Johnson

 

[oaken1]

There is no blue chip OT prospect in the draft. I don't need to take system fit into account to know that. I want us to draft a Big John, not a decent player. Chances are that's not an OT at 3.

Simple draft fact. The ONLY OT worthy of the 3 pick is a rock solid can't miss LT....
That same rock solid can't miss RT should expect to go around pick 8 at best....but 12 is more likely.

 

[oaken1]

We are the clearance rack of the NFL

Lmao...
Ever shop at "Off 5th"?

Apparently Saks 5th Avenue "NEVER" refuses a return..and rich folks are some of the biggest tight asses in the world...
Now, Off 5th did have some great deals...but about half the goods were designer shoes with holes worn in the soles and slacks so worn the crotch is giving out... I mean most of that stuff was such absolute crap that Saint Vincent DePaul would have thrown it out.

I asked a couple people why they were buying certain things and got,"because it's Gucci!" Or.."man, these Armani suits are 7 grand new" ....maybe...but dude still paid $100 for a suit you would be ashamed to offer at a yard sale.

It's mystifying what people will do to get a name brand. FOMO really brings out the full *%#@**,...err,...potato in some people.

I fancy Allen Edmonds dress shoes. Worth every penny of the $425 I paid for them.
But if they are all scuffed, stained, and have holes in the soles for $50??... I'll just take my 50 to Ross and get some Stacy Adams to get me by... people are just stupid...why we aren't extinct I'll never know. Soon though. Soon.

 

[some dumb guy]

why we aren't extinct I'll never know.

Well, oak...when a man and a woman meet and fall in love, they do something....umm...together...umm...and then they have a baby. The End
Hope that helps....LOL

 

[oaken1]

Well, oak...when a man and a woman meet and fall in love, they do something....umm...together...umm...and then they have a baby. The End
Hope that helps....LOL

I understand that part. Just not why we are managing to do that faster than eliminating ourselves.

Ever read a food wrapper?

They instruct you to not eat the wrapper.
They had to start printing that for a reason. For a reason...

 

[some dumb guy]

I understand that part. Just not why we are managing to do that faster than eliminating ourselves.

Ever read a food wrapper?

They instruct you to not eat the wrapper.
They had to start printing that for a reason. For a reason...

That's why we stick to the fine dining establishments like Long John Silver's, where they remove the wrapper for you...

 

[Gandhi]

There is no blue chip OT prospect in the draft. I don't need to take system fit into account to know that. I want us to draft a Big John, not a decent player. Chances are that's not an OT at 3.

Well, I disagree. There is none other than Freeling, though. The only other that would be "a Big John", as you call it, at #3 is Reese, and he got drafted at #2.

 

[Gandhi]

Simple draft fact. The ONLY OT worthy of the 3 pick is a rock solid can't miss LT....
That same rock solid can't miss RT should expect to go around pick 8 at best....but 12 is more likely.

It is a misunderstanding that there is any different between left and right. It was true 10-15 years ago, but it doesn't matter anymore.

 

[Chopper0080]

First round

In the game we are only allowed to use picks from this year to trade, so it would have cost a potential buyer most of their entire draft to buy my pick. Not surprisingly, nobody wanted to do that.

With the #3 pick the Arizona Cardinals select

Monroe Freeling, offensive tackle, Georgia

So, also not surprisingly, I chose the top ranked player. My biggest worry with Freeling is that he has played on the left for all his games at Georgia, while players like Blake Miller and Iheanachor are naturally right sided. However, Freeling is the most talented, with the biggest developmental potential, and the only OT who meets the value of the #3 overall pick.

No matter if it is Brissett, or if I draft a QB later, he must be better protected than last season. It was embarrassing to see Jonah Williams – or anyone else playing RT – get beaten over and over and over again. It’s fine that they have brought in multiple offensive linemen, but none of them are even close to the talent Freeling is.

No offense, I know why Freeling is being elevated in the first round but it is not to do the quality of his play. His tape is very up and down, and he is a huge work in progress. He is being elevated due to his combine, his potential, and the fact that neither Mauigoa nor Fano are deemed LTs.

 

[oaken1]

It is a misunderstanding that there is any different between left and right. It was true 10-15 years ago, but it doesn't matter anymore.

No. No it isn't.
The only people that misunderstand the difference are the ones that do not understand the positions and why LT is so much more valuable.
To put it simply for you...
The vast majority of QB's are right handed.... so they cannot see the rush coming from the left...that's why they call it the blindside...
QB's getting sacked from their blindside not only get injured more often...but they are about 300% more likely to fumble the ball...as most strip sacks come from the blindside.
Ask Joe Theismann if his LT was more important than his RT...
Steve Young on the other hand would have a differing opinion.
But I digress...there is huge value difference between left and right tackles. Everyone knowledgeable in the game knows this.... no RT is worthy of the #3 pick

 

[Gandhi]

No offense, I know why Freeling is being elevated in the first round but it is not to do the quality of his play. His tape is very up and down, and he is a huge work in progress. He is being elevated due to his combine, his potential, and the fact that neither Mauigoa nor Fano are deemed LTs.

I guess you haven't watched the tape I have. And you can also watch the Senior Bowl practices.

Further, the draft is about the future. I wrote in the beginning of the original post how my approach would reflect that.

 

[cardpa]

A lot of conversation here about the value of a LT versus a RT. I think what needs to be realized is a lot of defenses move their best pass rusher around to both the left and right side so I see value of having a solid RT just as much as a LT. Gone are the days where a pass rusher stays on the same side of the line.

 

[Gandhi]

The only people that misunderstand the difference are the ones that do not understand the positions and why LT is so much more valuable.

But I digress...there is huge value difference between left and right tackles. Everyone knowledgeable in the game knows this.... no RT is worthy of the #3 pick

I thought I would start by showing you a quote from former offensive lineman Ross Tucker:

"How do you know someone doesn’t really know what they’re talking about when it comes to the NFL these days?

When they talk about the difference between left tackles and right tackles or describe an offensive lineman as a “right tackle only,” that’s how.

The truth is, anybody who has been paying close attention to the league the last few years realizes (or at least should) that there is no longer a distinction between the two positions on the edges of a team’s offensive line."
(https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/10...ction-between-left-tackles-and-right-tackles/)

I am sure you will argue that you know a lot more about the NFL and offensive line-play than Ross Tucker, but then you should take a really quick Google search, just to find many other statements to confirm that you are wrong.

Also, I guess you didn’t look at the list of the highest paid offensive tackles, so I will tell you about it. Of the 10 highest paid, four of them are right tackles. Since 2023, five OT have been drafted in the top 10 to play right tackle.

I mean, it’s cool to think that LT is the more important, but it is not what the NFL tells us.