Next head coach?

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We apparently want to interview Green Bay defensive coordinator Jeff Hafley a second time. :eek: :bang: Were we that impressed with his team's 4th quarter choke job? :p

A Yahoo Sports article says that he's apparently the leading candidate for the Miami head coaching vacancy but that 4 teams including us want to interview him a second time.

 
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They were talking about this on the Bill Barnwell show. The Cards entered what they expected to be a tepid market and suddenly they’re at the bottom of the barrel.

They probably won’t get a guy clearly better than Gannon.
Bro, no offense, but if we’re talking about the Bill Barnwell show then you lost me like 30 years ago
 

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Salah's team was so attrited; especially his LB core. The offense was banged up. On a short week had to go across the country and go to Seattle. At this point I hope a faceless Houston team wins it. Oh, that's right; the NFL doesn't want that. Anyways, Salah did a decent job all things considered. Denver showed defensive vulnerability vs. Jacksonville and Buffalo. Broncos benefited from some calls, no calls. Kubiak won't be coming here. He'll be Lamar Jackson's next HC.
 

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Salah's team was so attrited; especially his LB core. The offense was banged up. On a short week had to go across the country and go to Seattle. At this point I hope a faceless Houston team wins it. Oh, that's right; the NFL doesn't want that. Anyways, Salah did a decent job all things considered. Denver showed defensive vulnerability vs. Jacksonville and Buffalo. Broncos benefited from some calls, no calls. Kubiak won't be coming here. He'll be Lamar Jackson's next HC.
I think Baltimore may go with a defensive head coach. :shrug:
 

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Salah's team was so attrited; especially his LB core. The offense was banged up. On a short week had to go across the country and go to Seattle. At this point I hope a faceless Houston team wins it. Oh, that's right; the NFL doesn't want that. Anyways, Salah did a decent job all things considered. Denver showed defensive vulnerability vs. Jacksonville and Buffalo. Broncos benefited from some calls, no calls. Kubiak won't be coming here. He'll be Lamar Jackson's next HC.
Agree that saleh made a terrible defensive roster into a respectable squad that played at 110% and made our very own petzing a clown (which admittedly wasn’t very hard to do for any respectable DC).

The loss to Seattle doesn’t phase me too much- still think he’d be a good HC for us- especially compared to the other candidates out there. Him and kubiak are the only decent head coaches we are interviewing, so if other teams are scared off because of the loss- better for us. second tier is minter, the rams boys- the rest of these candidates are straight trash
 

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They were talking about this on the Bill Barnwell show. The Cards entered what they expected to be a tepid market and suddenly they’re at the bottom of the barrel.

They probably won’t get a guy clearly better than Gannon.
A dead fish would give Gannon a run for his money, so improving on him won't be a problem. Improving ENOUGH will be the problem.
 

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I also heard an argument that an OC that has had success with a great quarterback is more risky as a HC because that success probably falls more on the QB. For example, is it that impressive that LaFleur can look good with Stafford as the QB? Well, LaFleur had a lot of success with Jimmy Garappolo as the passing game coordinator in San Francisco, and in retrospect you could argue that he got the very best out of Zach Wilson. To me, that speaks volume, and fixing the quarterback-issue must be priority number 1, 2 and 3 for the Cardinals.
Darnold is not exactly a great quarterback. Arrow up Kubiak.
 

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Saleh has two attributes I think would help the Cardinals:

They had a ton of new / rookie players in their defense and that unit looked way more cohesive / on game than nearly anything I saw from the Cardinals.

Saleh has years of participating in the SF player selection process. I want whatever he can add to the Cardinal process. [I will add -- typically the best AZ teams have come from eras where a coach who had lots of experience with an upper tier FO adds that perspective to the Cards. Denny/Whis and Arians]
 

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I like Saleh and Kubiak, Unfortunately, Kubiak might not be available until after the Super Bowl.He will also have other options for sure.
I don’t know how for sure that is, AZJ, if he does go to the Super Bowl. In relation to the hiring cycle it is actually often a disadvantage that your team goes far in the playoffs, simply because that keeps you away from the market. Remember when they hired Gannon, only they and the Colts were left to hire a HC (and Colts hired the other Eagles coordinator).

The last two years there have been none head coach hires after the Super Bowl. That might obviously just be because no one from the two teams were good enough, but it could also be because time is a factor for the teams.
 

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A dead fish would give Gannon a run for his money, so improving on him won't be a problem. Improving ENOUGH will be the problem.
Here’s the thing though: it’s the NFL.

Even with Gannon and Kyler and Bidwill and and some Monti bust picks we managed to look not good but competent by year 2 of the rebuild before wheels fell off. In fact we probably win the division in ‘24 if Kyler didn’t totally blow it down the stretch.
 

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Darnold is not exactly a great quarterback. Arrow up Kubiak.
I mentioned before that Kubiak kept Darnold from going full Darnold all season. There were moments in several games you thought Darnold would start having flashbacks to previous meltdowns, but they really never occurred and he finally proved he could win some big games at the end of the season. Much of that should he credited to Kubiak, IMO.
 

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The ability to reset the culture is as important as the X’s and O’s for this job. Once BA came in the whole organization migrated to his personality. We took big swings on the trade and FA market, played with our hair on fire on the field, etc. Much of that freewheeling style didn’t sit well with the risk-adverse Bidwill though and admittedly spilled over with some of the party culture in the FO.

Obviously helps if your coach can scheme too. Gannon delegated too much and while people liked the guy personally, just didn’t have that it factor to get this particular organization moving in the direction he wanted it to.
 

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I don’t know how for sure that is, AZJ, if he does go to the Super Bowl. In relation to the hiring cycle it is actually often a disadvantage that your team goes far in the playoffs, simply because that keeps you away from the market. Remember when they hired Gannon, only they and the Colts were left to hire a HC (and Colts hired the other Eagles coordinator).

The last two years there have been none head coach hires after the Super Bowl. That might obviously just be because no one from the two teams were good enough, but it could also be because time is a factor for the teams.
You're right that most of the other teams will have hired their coaches by the time of the Super Bowl. I also feel that the teams know the coach will sign with them and that is why they are willing to wait. Just need to be carful how that is handled so it doesn't cost you a draft pick like Monti lost in getting Gannon.
 

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The ability to reset the culture is as important as the X’s and O’s for this job. Once BA came in the whole organization migrated to his personality. We took big swings on the trade and FA market, played with our hair on fire on the field, etc. Much of that freewheeling style didn’t sit well with the risk-adverse Bidwill though and admittedly spilled over with some of the party culture in the FO.

Obviously helps if your coach can scheme too. Gannon delegated too much and while people liked the guy personally, just didn’t have that it factor to get this particular organization moving in the direction he wanted it to.
This is where you need a GM who'll listen to the HC and find the right players, but also keep it cool and not try to be drinking buddies.
 

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If they hire Vance you'll defend him until your dying breath lol
No one dislikes the idea of Vance as our HC more than I do lol. Sadly, we all know that Bidwill is totally capable of doing the stupidest crap possible. The NFL needs to institute a policy where owners have to out their teams up for sale when they can’t produce a winner over a set period of time.
 

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No one dislikes the idea of Vance as our HC more than I do lol. Sadly, we all know that Bidwill is totally capable of doing the stupidest crap possible. The NFL needs to institute a policy where owners have to out their teams up for sale when they can’t produce a winner over a set period of time.
File that under never gonna happen in any professional sports league.
 
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