OT: Kyler Murray Debacle Thread

[BritCard]

Tua says the quiet part

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[netsnjkidd]

Repeat after me

Good teams don't lose to the Titans.

Now write 100 times on the board.

Who was quarterbacking that game. Leaving yards and points all over the field?

 

[602 Native]

We we're talking about Brissett dude.

Not sure bringing up the game where Kyler face palmed is the answer you are looking for.

JB is no different.

Had the ball in his hands and spooged the win.

Redzone picks, throwing the ball out the back of the end zone, and fumbles.

Zero wins but ‘he’s not k1 at least’.

This mindset will be how we end up with Dereck Anderson again.

 

[Stout]

JB is no different.

Had the ball in his hands and spooged the win.

Redzone picks, throwing the ball out the back of the end zone, and fumbles.

Zero wins but ‘he’s not k1 at least’.

This mindset will be how we end up with Dereck Anderson again.

This is the saddest line of defense for Kyler yet. "Well, but our backup QB ain't winning either, so there! Neener neener!" smh

 

[PDXChris]

The primary failure of your argument is that you’re comparing Kyler to career backups. The mere fact that you’re having to have this argument means you’ve already lost it.

You're almost getting it....almost. I've said 3 or 4 with these stats that its time to move on from Kyler because we won't get us past his 13-17 record, but hes OUR current best option due to OUR BACKUPS being 1-10. I didn't lose anything and the numbers are facts to support this. What facts (numbers) to you have to show I'm wrong here?

 

[Brian in Mesa]

This is the saddest line of defense for Kyler yet. "Well, but our backup QB ain't winning either, so there! Neener neener!" smh

Our backup QB is 0-2 in one-score games.

Our overpaid starting QB is 19-32-1 in one-score games.

I'd rather see what our backup can do given more starts than see more of our starter who has already shown us what he can do...

 

[BritCard]

JB is no different.

Had the ball in his hands and spooged the win.

Redzone picks, throwing the ball out the back of the end zone, and fumbles.

Zero wins but ‘he’s not k1 at least’.

This mindset will be how we end up with Dereck Anderson again.

Dude, Brissett has tea bagged Kyler.

Brissett has played so much better Kyler should retire in embarrassment. Your sad and desperate attempts to continue defending Kyler beclowns you.

 

[602 Native]

This is the saddest line of defense for Kyler yet. "Well, but our backup QB ain't winning either, so there! Neener neener!" smh

Actually K1s record as a starter is leaps and bounds better than JB's as a backup lifetime.

Don't know what you people are glomming on to at all.

 

[Mulli]

Actually K1s record as a starter is leaps and bounds better than JB's as a backup lifetime.

Don't know what you people are glomming on to at all.

Hopium! (Similar to the reasons I believed Kyler would be good some day)

 

[602 Native]

Hopium! (Similar to the reasons I believed Kyler would be good some day)

K1 will be gone from this team at years end. Whether he succeeds somewhere else or not is yet to be seen but given the amount of QBs that have had their careers resurrected after leaving derelict franchises I am sure he will be fine.

The FO and coaching staff have already begun to try and save their jobs by pinning the poor team performance on K1 in the media (AZ Sports 98.7). What will be left is the typical wreckage of the Cardinals without a real QB moving forward and the fanbase trying to make the next Clayton Tune into a NFL starting QB.

Can't wait.

 

[Stout]

Actually K1s record as a starter is leaps and bounds better than JB's as a backup lifetime.

Don't know what you people are glomming on to at all.

The fact that you and others feel some driving need to defend Kyler against a backup QB.

 

[Mulli]

The fact that you and others feel some driving need to defend Kyler against a backup QB.

Who did you prefer Max Hall, John Skelton, John Navarre, DA?

 

[Stout]

Who did you prefer Max Hall, John Skelton, John Navarre, DA?

At this moment? Gimme Brissett starting and mentoring a young gun who can take over mid to late season.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

Who did you prefer Max Hall, John Skelton, John Navarre, DA?

Hall had moxie

 

[Mulli]

At this moment? Gimme Brissett starting and mentoring a young gun who can take over mid to late season.

Who DID you prefer? Big John Skelton?

 

[602 Native]

The fact that you and others feel some driving need to defend Kyler against a backup QB.

The fact that you and others think a backup can do what K1 can when he has proven he can't is troubling.

 

[WisconsinCard]

The fact that you and others think a backup can do what K1 can when he has proven he can't is troubling.

If you can't admit the Jacoby has out performed Kyler then there really is no need to continue the conversation. It's just your agenda at this point. There are several things he can do that Kyler can't. Even K1 super fan #1 has said as much.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

The fact that you and others think a backup can do what K1 can when he has proven he can't is troubling.

He exposed what Kyler cannot do: read a defense, step up in the pocket, and see where to throw the ball down the field. Same results - losing close games, but we resembled a team trying to get it done much better with JB than KM. We didn't see JB run away from the pocket and toss the ball away behind him after he ran into the pressure.

 

[602 Native]

If you can't admit the Jacoby has out performed Kyler then there really is no need to continue the conversation. It's just your agenda at this point. There are several things he can do that Kyler can't. Even J1 super fan #1 has said as much.

All for JB doing some things better in this offense than K1. It was never one built for K1's style to being with which i have said the entire time. JB is bigger and can take hits K1 can't and shouldn't.

He exposed what Kyler cannot do: read a defense, step up in the pocket, and see where to throw the ball down the field. Same results - losing close games, but we resembled a team trying to get it done much better with JB than KM. We didn't see JB run away from the pocket and toss the ball away behind him after he ran into the pressure.

1. Can't read a defense. This is absurd for sure and is the typical fans response.
2. Step up in the pocket. Not K1s skillset typically due to the collapsing pocket which even JB has experienced.
3. K1 can throw the ball down field with the best of them. He has done so even in this crap offense.
4. Pocket: See 2.
5. Totally agree with the single boneheaded play this season so far. Again though our line sucks on multiple levels and I do think we need to move on from K1.

The line won't get any better here becasue the org has shown they have zero idea how to draft in the trenches.

 

[WisconsinCard]

All for JB doing some things better in this offense than K1. It was never one built for K1's style to being with which i have said the entire time. JB is bigger and can take hits K1 can't and shouldn't.

1. Can't read a defense. This is absurd for sure and is the typical fans response.
2. Step up in the pocket. Not K1s skillset typically due to the collapsing pocket which even JB has experienced.
3. K1 can throw the ball down field with the best of them. He has done so even in this crap offense.
4. Pocket: See 2.
5. Totally agree with the single boneheaded play this season so far. Again though our line sucks on multiple levels and I do think we need to move on from K1.

The line won't get any better here becasue the org has shown they have zero idea how to draft in the trenches.

Didn't Kyler say this offense was Taylor made for him? Oh crap nevermind.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

All for JB doing some things better in this offense than K1. It was never one built for K1's style to being with which i have said the entire time. JB is bigger and can take hits K1 can't and shouldn't.

1. Can't read a defense. This is absurd for sure and is the typical fans response.
2. Step up in the pocket. Not K1s skillset typically due to the collapsing pocket which even JB has experienced.
3. K1 can throw the ball down field with the best of them. He has done so even in this crap offense.
4. Pocket: See 2.
5. Totally agree with the single boneheaded play this season so far. Again though our line sucks on multiple levels and I do think we need to move on from K1.

The line won't get any better here becasue the org has shown they have zero idea how to draft in the trenches.

Lol KM is, and has been, one of the worst deep ball passers for quite some time.

 

[82CardsGrad]

The fact that you and others think a backup can do what K1 can when he has proven he can't is troubling.

Ya see… this is how I know how blinded you are by your Kyler worship.
The story here is that Kyler can’t do what our backup is doing! Our backup runs the offense and manages his position as if he’s been our starter the past 6-7 years. Kyler? He has regressed to the point where his management of the offense and his position are of back-up quality.

Again, this GLARING reality has been pointed out several times. You and the others simply refuse to accept that which has been slammed in all our faces over the years, but amplified the past two weeks with the way JB has performed.

 

[602 Native]

Ya see… this is how I know how blinded you are by your Kyler worship.
The story here is that Kyler can’t do what our backup is doing! Our backup runs the offense and manages his position as if he’s been our starter the past 6-7 years. Kyler? He has regressed to the point where his management of the offense and his position are of back-up quality.

Again, this GLARING reality has been pointed out several times. You and the others simply refuse to accept that which has been slammed in all our faces over the years, but amplified the past two weeks with the way JB has performed.

He has performed right up until the time when he needed to like all backups.

 

[PDXChris]

At this moment? Gimme Brissett starting and mentoring a young gun who can take over mid to late season.

I'm 100% in for that next season.

 

[82CardsGrad]

He has performed right up until the time when he needed to like all backups.

It’s sad that I honestly can’t tell if your describing our “franchise QB,” or our journeyman backup…