OT: Kyler Murray Debacle Thread

[slanidrac16]

SO: if the Cards want to move off of Murray, a trade is probably the best bet.

in a trade -- the Cards probably have to pay the 2026 option bonus of $17mm, but then the acquiring team gets a QB with a 2026 salary of ~$23mm, which is low 20s in terms of rank. The 2027 salary number is also $22mm or so -- and then after that the guaranteed money is gone.

so -- a team that needs a qb and has lots of cap space can take a (relatively) low cost flyer on a QB that they can easily move on from should he not work out.

In that scenario-- the Cards pick up (based on my calcs) about $17mm in cap space in '26 and $45mm or so in '27.

How about the Jets and the can dump Breece Hall on us.

 

[Mr X]

I'm officially a Kyler hater. I don't want to see him QB this team ever again. Get what ever you can for him.

 

[DVontel]

How about the Jets and the can dump Breece Hall on us.

Aim bigger.

 

[slanidrac16]

Aim bigger.

Why? It’s never gonna happen. Lol!

 

[602 Native]

I'm officially a Kyler hater. I don't want to see him QB this team ever again. Get what ever you can for him.

Thanks for being honest.

Sad most that feel this way won't say it.

 

[slanidrac16]

Thanks for being honest.

Sad most that feel this way won't say it.

lol!!! WHO?

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Thanks for being honest.

Sad most that feel this way won't say it.

This routine is so tired.

Most people think he's a good guy that hasn't worked out here for a variety of reasons. I don't think most people here harbor ill will towards Kyler, just that our expectations were that it would at least be entertaining at worst, and that he'd play as a QB worthy of the #1 overall pick.

Outside of a few spectacular plays, he's been mostly boring, and somehow he continues to get worse. It's more than time to move on and to realize the experiment has failed.

 

[602 Native]

This routine is so tired.

Most people think he's a good guy that hasn't worked out here for a variety of reasons. I don't think most people here harbor ill will towards Kyler, just that our expectations were that it would at least be entertaining at worst, and that he'd play as a QB worthy of the #1 overall pick.

Outside of a few spectacular plays, he's been mostly boring, and somehow he continues to get worse. It's more than time to move on and to realize the experiment has failed.

Its so tired that a poster comes out and says what I have been saying since the off season.

Just own it. No one will fault you, I get it.

 

[Chopper0080]

Its so tired that a poster comes out and says what I have been saying since the off season.

Just own it. No one will fault you, I get it.

Everyone on this board wants Kyler to be the guy in AZ. He just isn't and will never be.

 

[602 Native]

All qb’s are subject to pressure. Some wilt and some stand in there and take a hit. It appears to me Brissett scans the field and recognizes where his receivers are.

Brother, JB is a good backup. When he plays more than a couple of games you will see why he has been on 12 teams.

 

[WisconsinCard]

I like Kyler as a person. He seems to be a nice person who has given back. But because he hasn't put the work in to be great could wear on some people. I fall into the thought of we took a shot on him and it failed, as will more than likely result in the same or worse situation after he's gone.

I don't hate anyone. I sadly disappointed in that I believe K1 has the talent to be great just not will to do what it takes to get there. So I hate that he didn't give his teammates, coaches, and fans the chance to witness greatness.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Brother, JB is a good backup. When he plays more than a couple of games you will see why he has been on 12 teams.

I completely agree, but he has a better command of the offense and doing what it takes to be the best he can be. He a real QB albeit a back up QB.

 

[602 Native]

I completely agree, but he has a better command of the offense and doing what it takes to be the best he can be. He a real QB albeit a back up QB.

I don't think anyone can make that claim after 1 game.

 

[BritCard]

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[unseenaz]

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[AZ Native]

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It is painful to watch a 7-year pro regress to this.

 

[DaHilg]

The detractors can say what they want. Brissett did a great job running this offense. He was throwing to a Wr group that has been described as “ weak”, but they looked pretty damn good yesterday.

Against CB3 and CB4.. lol context doesn’t exist !

 

[WisconsinCard]

I don't think anyone can make that claim after 1 game.

Fair, it is a small sample size for sure.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Against CB3 and CB4.. lol context doesn’t exist !

Oh you mean the guy that has 0 interceptions? Also ranks

105th in passer rating allowed (71.6)
131st in yards per reception allowed (6.7)
72nd in receptions allowed (10)

That guy? Yes context matters

 

[Stout]

Against CB3 and CB4.. lol context doesn’t exist !

Was there a world where you would have ever said, yeah, he sure ran that offense better than Kyler has? I think not.

 

[DaHilg]

Was there a world where you would have ever said, yeah, he sure ran that offense better than Kyler has? I think not.

I don’t think he did.. 44 attempts isn’t the same offense obviously

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

I don’t think he did.. 44 attempts isn’t the same offense obviously

Is this a KM burner account?

 

[Stout]

I don’t think he did.. 44 attempts isn’t the same offense obviously

So, no.

 

[urs]

Gannon came out and said they ran things completely different. DaHilg is right, not the "same offense"

 

[DaHilg]

Is this a KM burner account?

lol so funny you know dumb you sound ? 44 attempts.. praise the lord he got 300 yards