Welp, Kuminga just got offered a lot of money. Where does he end up?

[Raindog]

Sacramento’s only way of acquiring Kuminga would have to be through a sign-and-trade and so far the Warriors have balked at all offers. We’ve heard previous reports that the Kings had offered Devin Carter, Malik Monk and multiple seconds, and now Charania reports that the Kings are actually willing to include a conditional first-rounder, but the Warriors are asking for an unprotected pick instead.

Report: Jonathan Kuminga wants to come to Sacramento, Warriors still not playing ball - The Kings Herald

The Kings are still in pursuit of Jonathan Kuminga according to several recent reports, but their pursuit is for naught if they can’t get the Golden State Warriors to play ball, and so far there doesn’t seem to be a resolution in sight. According to ESPN’s Shams Charania and Anthony Slater, the...

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An unprotected, huh? Could Sacramento be that dumb? The Warriors should be happy just robbing them of a first rounder at all.

 

[JCSunsfan]

An unprotected, huh? Could Sacramento be that dumb? The Warriors should be happy just robbing them of a first rounder at all.

Ha!! That is crazy. All that money AND the pick. This is the team that traded Haliburton away.

 

[Hoop Head]

An unprotected, huh? Could Sacramento be that dumb? The Warriors should be happy just robbing them of a first rounder at all.

Since the Kings are trying to saddle them with DeRozen also, I could see the 1st round pick being a required piece.


Monk and Carter for Kuminga is a fair deal in terms of talent but obviously the Warriors don't need guard depth. Monk is better than Hield, marginally, and Carter is a nice prospect but they have Podz already as well.

 

[Russ Smith]

Sac media thinks the Warriors want keegan Murray and the Suns don't want to move him. I have no idea.

Whole thing sucks Kuminga is a good kid but a bad fit on the Warriors since they got Butler. And the Warriors didn't handle it well and now it's blowing up on them.

He needs the ball to be effective and that's not how the Warriors play

 

[Mainstreet]

Sac media thinks the Warriors want keegan Murray and the Suns don't want to move him. I have no idea.

Whole thing sucks Kuminga is a good kid but a bad fit on the Warriors since they got Butler. And the Warriors didn't handle it well and now it's blowing up on them.

He needs the ball to be effective and that's not how the Warriors play

So do you think Kuminga is worth a 4-year contract approaching $90-100 million if the Suns could trade for him?

I'm sure the Warriors want more than Grayson Allen, Royce O'Neale and perhaps Nick Richards.

Suns only have one second round pick at their disposal that I'm aware.

 

[Russ Smith]

So do you think Kuminga is worth a 4-year contract approaching $90-100 million if the Suns could trade for him?

I'm sure the Warriors want more than Grayson Allen, Royce O'Neale and perhaps Nick Richards.

Suns only have one second round pick at their disposal that I'm aware.

Depends on the roster. Pre Butler, Kuminga was playing pretty well. He started slow but then late November and December and Jan he was pretty good 27 games about 45% about 18PPG and he was playing pretty well on defense because he was playing the 4. Then he got hurt Post started playing the 5 with Draymond at the 4, then Butler came in and by the time Kuminga came back he didn't fit. He plays well off Curry he's figured that out but for some reason he could not play well with Butler which makes no sense as Jimmy is a terrific passer and if anything is too unselfish. But they just didn't click.

If the Suns have a rotation that allows Kuminga to have the ball he'll thrive. If Jalen Green is the PG I doubt that happens.

The only chance Kuminga has to thrive with the Warriors is learn to play off the ball with both Curry and Butler, if he can only play with Steph, he won't get the role he wants. I don't think he'll ever be a knockdown shooter so he has to learn to play off Butler and exploit teams loading up on Steph. I just don't think that's in his DNA.

 

[Mainstreet]

Depends on the roster. Pre Butler, Kuminga was playing pretty well. He started slow but then late November and December and Jan he was pretty good 27 games about 45% about 18PPG and he was playing pretty well on defense because he was playing the 4. Then he got hurt Post started playing the 5 with Draymond at the 4, then Butler came in and by the time Kuminga came back he didn't fit. He plays well off Curry he's figured that out but for some reason he could not play well with Butler which makes no sense as Jimmy is a terrific passer and if anything is too unselfish. But they just didn't click.

If the Suns have a rotation that allows Kuminga to have the ball he'll thrive. If Jalen Green is the PG I doubt that happens.

The only chance Kuminga has to thrive with the Warriors is learn to play off the ball with both Curry and Butler, if he can only play with Steph, he won't get the role he wants. I don't think he'll ever be a knockdown shooter so he has to learn to play off Butler and exploit teams loading up on Steph. I just don't think that's in his DNA.

How the Suns offense functions with Booker and Green at guard is a question mark.

They definitely need a starting power forward though to spark the inside game so I can see why they want him.

 

[Russ Smith]

How the Suns offense functions with Booker and Green at guard is a question mark.

They definitely need a starting power forward though to spark the inside game so I can see why they want him.

I feel like he probably ends up staying with the Warriors it doesn't seem like they're going to get the offer they want.

We keep being told the Bulls are the dark horse but I've given up on that.

 

[Big Al]

So do you think Kuminga is worth a 4-year contract approaching $90-100 million if the Suns could trade for him?

I'm sure the Warriors want more than Grayson Allen, Royce O'Neale and perhaps Nick Richards.

Suns only have one second round pick at their disposal that I'm aware.

Kuminga is good potential 6'7" talent but Suns need a sure fire 6'9" strong defensive rebounding forward to play opposite the 6'5" small forward Dillion Brooks & along side 7'0" Mark Williams instead. That Suns power forward slot been vacant far too long. Small forward Kuminga not the answer in my humble opinion.

4 years at $90-100 million with a player's option is too much.

The trading of Allen, O'Neil and Richards wouldn't hurt the Suns as much as the overpay & the of rolling it on a potential player & possibly being stuck with him for 4 years. Although Kuminga could possibly work out but I'm saying no deal. We need a proven big Power Forward first & foremost.

 

[Mainstreet]

Kuminga is good potential 6'7" talent but Suns need a sure fire 6'9" strong defensive rebounding forward to play opposite the 6'5" small forward Dillion Brooks & along side 7'0" Mark Williams instead. That Suns power forward slot been vacant far too long. Small forward Kuminga not the answer in my humble opinion.

4 years at $90-100 million with a player's option is too much.

The trading of Allen, O'Neil and Richards wouldn't hurt the Suns as much as the overpay & the of rolling it on a potential player & possibly being stuck with him for 4 years. Although Kuminga could possibly work out but I'm saying no deal. We need a proven big Power Forward first & foremost.

I'd be tempted to make the deal if that is all the Suns give up for Kuminga.

The reason is, I think he is worth the risk for what the Suns are giving up. IMO, Durant was a bridge too far, but this trade is more palatable in terms of risk. The Suns want to compete now with Booker, but without a power forward, it's harder to reach that goal.

Using the Durant trade as an example, in contrast, the Suns not only overpaid on salary but players and draft picks as well.

 

[Mainstreet]

@Big Al

Btw, it's great to see you posting more often. I highly respect your opinion.

 

[clyde2tw]

Any combination of Brooks, Allen, RO, Richards, Oso for Kuminga at the said 90mil deal would be fine with me. Without much draft capital for 6 more years, we need young talent like Kuminga and Green despite the risks. MW, Kuminga, Brooks/Dunn, Book and Green would be athletic and talented. Up to coach to make the best out of it.

 

[Yuma]

It feels like the only thing this guy brings is tremendous athleticism, and being relatively young. Unless he can play PG, I don't see a fit. He wants a starters role. That pushes guys down the ladder, and makes us smaller when compared to the PF options we have. Unless he's starting at SF? Then what do we do about getting Brooks on the court? I guess we will see how Jordan Ott pulls a rabbit out of his A$$!

 

[Mainstreet]

Shams Charania breaks down the entire situation with Jonathan Kuminga.

Warriors are reportedly stopping sign and trade offers, at least for now.

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[BooksOrangePlanet]

Shams Charania breaks down the entire situation with Jonathan Kuminga.

Warriors are reportedly stopping sign and trade offers, at least for now.

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[Mainstreet]

@BirdGangThing

I don't see the above tweet on Shams Charania's site.

Some of these players are recently signed (Malauch and Fleming) and there is usually a waiting period before they can be traded.

The Suns don't have three second round picks available to trade, only maybe one.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

@BirdGangThing

I don't see the above tweet on Shams Charania's site.

Some of these players are recently signed (Malauch and Fleming) and there is usually a waiting period before they can be traded.

The Suns don't have three second round picks available to trade, only maybe one.

it was a screenshot during the shams video you posted

 

[Phrazbit]

Warriors refuse to pair 42.6% shooter with Steph Curry via Jonathan Kuminga swap, per insider

The Golden State Warriors came to an important decision amid swirling Jonathan Kuminga rumors.

www.yahoo.com

Supposedly Golden State has no interest in Allen or Royce because of their contracts… the contracts we knew were an overpayment when we signed them in some hair brained scheme to make them more tradable.

Sigh…….

 

[Mainstreet]

it was a screenshot during the shams video you posted

All those assets are not available at this point in time. Maybe later down the road, but not right now.

Dunn, Oso and perhaps one second round pick are it, in addition to some combination of Allen, O'Neale and Richards.

 

[JCSunsfan]

They need to just stop it. Wait until the trade deadline when a team needs Royce or Grayson because of an injury or just that extra piece for a playoff run.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

All those assets are not available at this point in time. Maybe later down the road, but not right now.

Dunn, Oso and perhaps one second round pick are it, in addition to some combination of Allen, O'Neale and Richards.

word - i didn't know we had 3 tradeable seconds lol and i thought it was oso/richards/oneale being shopped

 

[Mainstreet]

word - i didn't know we had 3 tradeable seconds lol and i thought it was oso/richards/oneale being shopped

Yeah, that's pretty much it for now.

 

[Mainstreet]

Warriors refuse to pair 42.6% shooter with Steph Curry via Jonathan Kuminga swap, per insider

The Golden State Warriors came to an important decision amid swirling Jonathan Kuminga rumors.

www.yahoo.com

Supposedly Golden State has no interest in Allen or Royce because of their contracts… the contracts we knew were an overpayment when we signed them in some hair brained scheme to make them more tradable.

Sigh…….

Looks like the Suns were gearing up for a major trade and it didn't happen. Those multiyear contracts are a real hindrance.

The Suns major must be in bad contracts.

 

[Adrian]

Report: Suns still interested in Jonathan Kuminga, but Warriors aren't dealing

ESPN NBA insider Shams Charania has reported specifics about the length and financials of the Phoenix Suns' offer for Jonathan Kuminga.

www.azcentral.com

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

**** it - if it doesn't cost us a starter - a dunn - a fleming - or a maluach im probably cool with kuminga coming to phx (i consider brooks/jalen/williams to be starters) on a 3 year

thing is they might want brooks - or that's my best guess considering they can run him at small forward plug and play style - doesn't need the ball at all but can knock the 3