Walter football has Murray listed as a QB/WR

[Dr. Jones]

He will never be under center in the air raid. The entire offense is run out of the shotgun with 4 WR.


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I think I read somewhere that KK's offense was under center less than 7% of the time at TT.

And he has been on record saying that running power out of the gun is not a problem. So I expect at least 75% gun most of the time.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I do not care for height as far as his overall build because I am looking at him as a long term answer and did not see him make tight window throws even in his highlight reels but he does throw a pretty deep ball. As far as his short arms, that makes no sense at all but actually is a freaking positive because those T-Rex arms have a lot of freaking torque and gives him a lightning quick release, though that baseball style throwing is awkward... but then again Mahomes looks unorthodox too

Someone was talking about short arm vs long arm for QBs on 98.7 FM. He basically said it's not an issue for QBs, and it could actually be a positive because it could mean quicker release.

Murrays best trait is his release. He gets the ball out so quickly and with great velocity. Release is actually one of the most important traits of a QB, but it can be developed with lots of work. Rodgers didnt have a super quick release coming out but he's improved it dramatically since he was in college. A slow release is the #1 reason Bortles has been a bust, his release is so slow that CBs break on the ball before the ball gets there.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Someone was talking about short arm vs long arm for QBs on 98.7 FM. He basically said it's not an issue for QBs, and it could actually be a positive because it could mean quicker release.

Murrays best trait is his release. He gets the ball out so quickly and with great velocity. Release is actually one of the most important traits of a QB, but it can be developed with lots of work. Rodgers didnt have a super quick release coming out but he's improved it dramatically since he was in college. A slow release is the #1 reason Bortles has been a bust, his release is so slow that CBs break on the ball before the ball gets there.

Is there an issue having a shorter reach, to throw over linemen? In the NFL, he's not always going to have a passing lane.

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[Krangodnzr]

Is there an issue having a shorter reach, to throw over linemen? In the NFL, he's not always going to have a passing lane.

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Murray, just like Brees and Wilson, stands further back in the pocket.

It's a total myth than QBs have to see over the line Kurt Warner said so himself. It does happen, but most of the time QBs are seeing passing lanes between linemen, not over them. Murrays OL averaged over 6'4 and he doesn't struggle to find passing lanes.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Murray, just like Brees and Wilson, stands further back in the pocket.

It's a total myth than QBs have to see over the line Kurt Warner said so himself. It does happen, but most of the time QBs are seeing passing lanes between linemen, not over them. Murrays OL averaged over 6'4 and he doesn't struggle to find passing lanes.

Brees and Wilson both have arms that are 2 inches longer than Murray. While they all use passing lanes, those lanes are not always available, in the NFL, and dump off/check downs over the LOS are necessary. Those 6'4" OL/DL become 7' real quick, when the rush is on. It doesn't matter how far back you are...it's gonna happen.

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[BW52]

Brees and Wilson both have arms that are 2 inches longer than Murray. While they all use passing lanes, those lanes are not always available, in the NFL, and dump off/check downs over the LOS are necessary. Those 6'4" OL/DL become 7' real quick, when the rush is on. It doesn't matter how far back you are...it's gonna happen.

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Murray could have one leg and the Murray fans would figure out a way to say it was a advantage.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Murray could have one leg and the Murray fans would figure out a way to say it was a advantage.

And the Murray haters will find fault in everything he has done up to this point, regardless of his stats or game tape.

Bloods vs. Crips
Repubs vs. dems
Verizon vs. AT&T
blah, blah, blah

If he works out..... we will all be happy. If not, we will all be said. In the end, someone will be shouting "I TOLD YOU SO!!!"

 

[BW52]

And the Murray haters will find fault in everything he has done up to this point, regardless of his stats or game tape.

Bloods vs. Crips
Repubs vs. dems
Verizon vs. AT&T
blah, blah, blah

If he works out..... we will all be happy. If not, we will all be said. In the end, someone will be shouting "I TOLD YOU SO!!!"

Why is not wanting Murray called "Haters" ?

 

[Dr. Jones]

Why is not wanting Murray called "Haters" ?

Detractors?
Old Mindsets?


Tomatoes?
Snowflakes?

blah blah blah

 

[devilalum]

I would like to see Murray under center does anyone have tape of him doing that?

There’s no tape of Murray under center because you can’t actually see him when he is under center.


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[BW52]

Detractors?
Old Mindsets?


Tomatoes?
Snowflakes?

blah blah blah

SO Murray fans can be called
Murrayites?
Murray cultists?
Murray fanboys?

 

[HoodieBets]

To bad the cardinals aren’t going to run an air raid offense.

It’s going to be like what LA does. It’s gonna be a mixture

No it will be an air raid with the QB working in the gun with a lot of stacked trips. 95% of the runs will be from the gun as well.


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[Dr. Jones]

SO Murray fans can be called
Murrayites?
Murray cultists?
Murray fanboys?

Fanboys
Lovers/Haters
Promoters/Detractors
Believers
etc.

 

[devilalum]

Fanboys
Lovers/Haters
Promoters/Detractors
Believers
etc.

Lilliputians?


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[azsouthendzone]

As I just read the Murray lovers will cringe but they have him listed as a QB/WR seems as I mentioned this a while ago does that give anyone a clue

Multi-dimensional. Sign me up.

 

[Adrian]

Multi-dimensional. Sign me up.

The new slash.

 

[cardncubfan]

Here's a highlight of Murray playing RB,

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[Krangodnzr]

Brees and Wilson both have arms that are 2 inches longer than Murray. While they all use passing lanes, those lanes are not always available, in the NFL, and dump off/check downs over the LOS are necessary. Those 6'4" OL/DL become 7' real quick, when the rush is on. It doesn't matter how far back you are...it's gonna happen.


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Right and being 6'3 doesnt help either.

I think you are missing the point. Height is overrated.

 

[Jetstream Green]

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[RON_IN_OC]

Right and being 6'3 doesnt help either.

I think you are missing the point. Height is overrated.

Didn't mention height at all.

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[Krangodnzr]

Murray could have one leg and the Murray fans would figure out a way to say it was a advantage.

Well he would still be more mobile than Rosen hoping around in stumps.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Didn't mention height at all.

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Its implied in your comments.

 

[Krangodnzr]

SO Murray fans can be called
Murrayites?
Murray cultists?
Murray fanboys?

Smart people.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Well he would still be more mobile than Rosen hoping around in stumps.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Its implied in your comments.

I was mentioning arm length, in response to your post. An extra 2 inches of arm length can be a big deal, when needing to dump a pass off over the LOS or over a blitzing LB on a screen pass. Not always going to have clean passing lanes in the NFL...and some plays, like screens, don't allow for lanes. Has zero to do with height.

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