Week 5- Arizona Cardinals @ SF 49ers Pregame thread, 2018

[DVontel]

Or the Aikmen Cowboys but Rosen appears to be further along and this team has more talent then those teams.

Remember we had to trade up to ten while those examples were #1 overall picks so those teams sucked big time.

But the coaching is much worse. If we land at #1(Honestly, I hope we do to get a generational talent in Bosa or Oliver) it will be because of horrendously bad coaching, not Rosen.

 

[Cardiac]

But the coaching is much worse. If we land at #1(Honestly, I hope we do to get a generational talent in Bosa or Oliver) it will be because of horrendously bad coaching, not Rosen.

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But the coaching is much worse. If we land at #1(Honestly, I hope we do to get a generational talent in Bosa or Oliver) it will be because of horrendously bad coaching, not Rosen.

I hear you but Wilks will improve imo and McCoy simply has to get better and I think we saw that last week.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Tell that to 1998 Peyton Manning & the Colts.

Right? That’s kind of a silly comment. The cowboys in aikmen’s rookie season were dismal as well.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

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I hear you but Wilks will improve imo and McCoy simply has to get better and I think we saw that last week.

Did McCoy get better since he got canned last year? No. So why does he “...simply have to get better...” other than magic and fairy dust?

 

[Cardiac]

Did McCoy get better since he got canned last year? No. So why does he “...simply have to get better...” other than magic and fairy dust?

Because he can't get any worse. Rosen will elevate McCoy because Rosen is that much better than Bradford.

 

[b8rtm8nn]

Because he can't get any worse. Rosen will elevate McCoy because Rosen is that much better than Bradford.

There is a greater than zero chance that McCoy is like Whiz and is only successful with a certain type of QB.

 

[StreetTruckinTitan]

The Cards must get some wins. If we get the #1 overall pick then Rosen isn't our answer for the future.

I type this with out reviewing our schedule and of course injuries could change my mind.

Rosen cant catch his own passes. IF we get the #1 pick I doubt itll be on Rosen.

 

[Cardiac]

There is a greater than zero chance that McCoy is like Whiz and is only successful with a certain type of QB.

You mean like Roethlisberger, Warner and Rivers?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Because he can't get any worse. Rosen will elevate McCoy because Rosen is that much better than Bradford.

Neither of those statements support your assertion.

And just because he can’t coach worse (an assumption in your part, I’ll bet he can coach worse) doesn’t mean he’ll get better. He’s more likely to stay the same than improve given his track record.

Rosen playing better than Bradford doesn’t make McCoy better. It might make McCoy look better, but it doesn’t make him better.

 

[Cardiac]

Rosen cant catch his own passes. IF we get the #1 pick I doubt itll be on Rosen.

Not his fault but he didn't elevate the team enough to be considered an elite QB. At least that's my opinion at this time.

I don't expect the WRs to keep dropping balls at the rate they did last week.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I've never been more excited to watch an 0-4 team in all my years. I've also never seen a Cardinals team 0-4 in all my years which is pretty incredible when you think of the ineptitude of this franchise for the first two decades they were in Arizona.

As long as Rosen's playing, I'll be tuned in. And I don't expect the sterling performance he had last week. I expect he'll start to struggle when teams start getting tape on him. I just wanted to keep seeing those flashes and look forward to a hopeful future.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Not his fault but he didn't elevate the team enough to be considered an elite QB. At least that's my opinion at this time.

I don't expect the WRs to keep dropping balls at the rate they did last week.

why? none of them outside Fitz are very good at this point.

 

[b8rtm8nn]

You mean like Roethlisberger, Warner and Rivers?

Exactly! The system works.

 

[oaken1]

Did McCoy get better since he got canned last year? No. So why does he “...simply have to get better...” other than magic and fairy dust?

unicorn farts....you forgot unicorn farts...makes all the difference

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Not his fault but he didn't elevate the team enough to be considered an elite QB. At least that's my opinion at this time.

I don't expect the WRs to keep dropping balls at the rate they did last week.

What?!? If he performed every week like he performed last week he would be considered an elite QB in this league. You must not have watched the game.

 

[Cardiac]

Neither of those statements support your assertion.

And just because he can’t coach worse (an assumption in your part, I’ll bet he can coach worse) doesn’t mean he’ll get better. He’s more likely to stay the same than improve given his track record.

Rosen playing better than Bradford doesn’t make McCoy better. It might make McCoy look better, but it doesn’t make him better.

My point is that Bradford was so bad that any OC would have struggled. Rosen will complete passes that Bradford couldn't which will produce first downs. Which will force Ds to respect the pass which will open up the running game which will open up the play calling which will........

McCoy may not be good but he's been in the NFL to long to be worthless.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

unicorn farts....you forgot unicorn farts...makes all the difference

I thought those were confined to soccer.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

My point is that Bradford was so bad that any OC would have struggled. Rosen will complete passes that Bradford couldn't which will produce first downs. Which will force Ds to respect the pass which will open up the running game which will open up the play calling which will........

McCoy may not be good but he's been in the NFL to long to be worthless.

Again, none of what you typed means McCoy will improve.

And the bolded language is dangerous old boy network line of thinking that keeps the Amos’es in the league far past their expiration date. If the sole criteria for a coaches selection is the fact that he’s coached in the league before he sucks. McCoy sucks.

 

[Cheesebeef]

My point is that Bradford was so bad that any OC would have struggled. Rosen will complete passes that Bradford couldn't which will produce first downs. Which will force Ds to respect the pass which will open up the running game which will open up the play calling which will........

McCoy may not be good but he's been in the NFL to long to be worthless.

Amos Jones says hello!

 

[kerouac9]

I've never been more excited to watch an 0-4 team in all my years. I've also never seen a Cardinals team 0-4 in all my years which is pretty incredible when you think of the ineptitude of this franchise for the first two decades they were in Arizona.

As long as Rosen's playing, I'll be tuned in. And I don't expect the sterling performance he had last week. I expect he'll start to struggle when teams start getting tape on him. I just wanted to keep seeing those flashes and look forward to a hopeful future.

I think that people are underrating his first game on the road. It's going to be a problem. Even if Levi's Stadium is a tomb half-filled with tech bros too busy distrupting the meatspace to look up from their phones, it's going to be a different, hostile environment that will make it meaningfully more difficult to drag his coaching staff into the victory column.

 

[DVontel]

I think that people are underrating his first game on the road. It's going to be a problem. Even if Levi's Stadium is a tomb half-filled with tech bros too busy distrupting the meatspace to look up from their phones, it's going to be a different, hostile environment that will make it meaningfully more difficult to drag his coaching staff into the victory column.

Rosen has experience playing at Levi’s stadium as a visitor. Against Stanford twice & neutral site game against Nebraska. It might not mean much, if at all, but I don’t think he’s going to have nerves once he sets foot on their field.

 

[Adrian]

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