Josh Gordon - To Be Released

[Finito]

I do not care what a player does in his private time his house his business. I don't sit here call Fitz classy and act like I know him personally we don't know any of these players in the end.

The damn the Cleveland Browns don't want this THE CLEVELAND BROWNS SAID NO THANKS!

If you honestly think Larry Fitzgerald can change this life long joke your stupid im sorry there is just no other way to put other then your stupid.

Sorry not in a good mood

 

[Finito]

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Because if Fitz can teach him to be a professional and get him on track, while PP also supports him like he did with Tyrann Mathieu, we might actually have someone to take over for Fitz here soon. This is a move you hope plans out long term by taking a short term gamble.

Gordon and TM both have similar substance abuse issues, but one landed in Cleveland, while the other in AZ.

It's not even the same damn ball park. How is this lost on you. TM got in trouble while he was in college and has not one red flag since

Josh Gordon was kicked off his college team aswell but had 4 failed test in the NFL before he was suspended and hasnt played a full season since 2014 because he's such a jackass.

One guy is at a 2 and the other is operating at a 10 on the ******* meter how you think these two guys are the same is flat out beyond me.

Stupid

 

[PDXChris]

I do not care what a player does in his private time his house his business. I don't sit here call Fitz classy and act like I know him personally we don't know any of these players in the end.

The damn the Cleveland Browns don't want this THE CLEVELAND BROWNS SAID NO THANKS!

If you honestly think Larry Fitzgerald can change this life long joke your stupid im sorry there is just no other way to put other then your stupid.

Sorry not in a good mood

*you're stupid

 

[Buckybird]

This kid has serious substance issues! Reports while at Baylor he had other issues as well. His problems have been going on for nearly 10 years now, so no I wouldn’t touch him with a 10 foot pole. This kid doesn’t want to live the NFL dream, so stay away & save your franchise the headache.

He needs to forget football & get his life in order ASAP, before it’s too late.

 

[oaken1]

Fork it...... I'll piss in the cup for him.



Oh........wait.....

 

[82CardsGrad]

If he's not facing another ban imminently, yes I pull the trigger.

With him are we going to the Super Bowl? If the answer is “NO”, and it is, then we don’t go anywhere near this epic fool...

 

[moklerman]

How, indeed??

Gee, let's see, one smoked weed and hurt no one but himself and his own carreer. The other beat his kid until his scrotum was bloody.

Perhaps you think Ray Rice was just a "strict disciplinarian" too?

Do you actually believe that smoking pot is worse than abusing a child??

...dbs

Do you think that smoking pot covers everything that Gordon has done? Do you think that any child that's ever had a whipping has been abused? While AP went overboard I think labeling him a child abuser is going too far as well. Had he been trying to hurt the child...abuse him, there's no end to what he could have done considering his strength. It was a whipping that went too far. Peterson showed remorse, got educated and moved on. Has Gordon moved beyond being a stoner? Exhibited responsibility or reliability?

Suggesting Ray Rice's situation is anything similar to AP's is ludicrous.

And yes, I'd say throwing your life away for weed is worse than getting a whipping.

 

[gbrim21]

Do you think that smoking pot covers everything that Gordon has done? Do you think that any child that's ever had a whipping has been abused? While AP went overboard I think labeling him a child abuser is going too far as well. Had he been trying to hurt the child...abuse him, there's no end to what he could have done considering his strength. It was a whipping that went too far. Peterson showed remorse, got educated and moved on. Has Gordon moved beyond being a stoner? Exhibited responsibility or reliability?

Suggesting Ray Rice's situation is anything similar to AP's is ludicrous.

And yes, I'd say throwing your life away for weed is worse than getting a whipping.

Sorry, stupid argument. Just because AP didn't mean to hurt the kid it's ok? Obviously any NFL player could literally do as much harm to a 3 year old kid as they want.

Yes, any 3 year old who gets whipped to the point of bleeding is absolutely being abused.

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[sunsfan88]

Bad eggs don't usually turn good again.

Uh Honey Badger?? Tyreke Hill??

 

[daves]

Do you think that smoking pot covers everything that Gordon has done?

Nope, in fact, he has been convicted of felony credit card theft. But smoking pot is the reason Gordon has been suspended by the NFL.

Do you think whipping his kid one time covers everything Adrian Peterson has done?

Do you think that any child that's ever had a whipping has been abused?

While AP went overboard I think labeling him a child abuser is going too far as well.

Well, Peterson was charged with FELONY CHILD ABUSE for what he did, and pleaded to reckless assault to avoid jail time. Do you think every parent who's disciplined a child would be charged with a felony? Do you think tearing a kid's scrotum is nothing more than "being a strict disciplinarian"?

Suggesting Ray Rice's situation is anything similar to AP's is ludicrous.

Why - because Rice's assault was caught on video? Do you need to see a video of a grown professional athlete whipping a 4 year old before you start taking it seriously?

And yes, I'd say throwing your life away for weed is worse than getting a whipping.

No one is comparing what Gordon did to getting a whipping. You're comparing it to GIVING a whipping to a 4 year old until his legs and scrotum were bleeding, and in your mind, apparently, smoking weed is worse.

Thanks for clarifying that.

...dbs

 

[moklerman]

Uh Honey Badger?? Tyreke Hill??

"usually"

Want to sign Martavius Bryant and Justin Blackmon too?

 

[moklerman]

Nope, in fact, he has been convicted of felony credit card theft. But smoking pot is the reason Gordon has been suspended by the NFL.

But I thought he was "just" smoking some pot?

Do you think whipping his kid one time covers everything Adrian Peterson has done?

I don't really know. Possibly not but that begs the question, why weren't any more instances brought to light if he's the child abuser you're making him out to be?

Well, Peterson was charged with FELONY CHILD ABUSE for what he did, and pleaded to reckless assault to avoid jail time. Do you think every parent who's disciplined a child would be charged with a felony? Do you think tearing a kid's scrotum is nothing more than "being a strict disciplinarian"?

I think it's exactly what Peterson said it was. He was switching his butt and accidentally hit his scrotum. Corporal punishment is legal in Texas and he wasn't trying to hurt his kid. He's being vilified about a divisive subject. Many do not believe in corporal punishment but many do.

Why - because Rice's assault was caught on video? Do you need to see a video of a grown professional athlete whipping a 4 year old before you start taking it seriously?

Please don't condescend to know something that I'm unaware. I don't take beating a child lightly but I also differentiate between a spanking/whipping and beating. Peterson was doing the former, not the latter. He was not trying to torment his child he was disciplining him. There's a difference. If you disobey, there is a consequence. This wasn't a random act of cruelty. Rice was trying to hurt his girlfriend(wife?). You act as if all physical contact is the same.

No one is comparing what Gordon did to getting a whipping. You're comparing it to GIVING a whipping to a 4 year old until his legs and scrotum were bleeding, and in your mind, apparently, smoking weed is worse.

Thanks for clarifying that.

...dbs

You're acting as if Peterson is out roaming the streets, stalking children in the schoolyard. Discipline gone too far is not as bad as a lifelong criminal. You're saying a drug-addict, thief is better than a parent who got careless with a switch? One is trying to teach and discipline doing what was taught to him, what he thinks is right and is legal. The other is knowingly, repeatedly breaking the law. And you think that's somehow better, much less obviously so?

 

[Phrazbit]

Do you think that smoking pot covers everything that Gordon has done? Do you think that any child that's ever had a whipping has been abused? While AP went overboard I think labeling him a child abuser is going too far as well. Had he been trying to hurt the child...abuse him, there's no end to what he could have done considering his strength. It was a whipping that went too far. Peterson showed remorse, got educated and moved on. Has Gordon moved beyond being a stoner? Exhibited responsibility or reliability?

Suggesting Ray Rice's situation is anything similar to AP's is ludicrous.

And yes, I'd say throwing your life away for weed is worse than getting a whipping.

I don't think being a pot head even remotely compares to beating women or children.

I also think AP absolutely qualifies as abusive. He whipped 4 year old until he bled from his a legs and genitals, a 4 year he doesn't even have custody over, the kid was visiting. Seriously... a FOUR YEAR OLD! His kids have also said he's whipped them with belts and shoves leaves in their mouths.

Yes, Adrian Peterson is a child abuser.

He also showed basically no remorse and continues to deny he did anything wrong.

Ray Rice is a pile of garbage who tried to put a defenseless woman in line... AP is a pile of garbage who tried to put a defenseless child in line.

Both of those situations are WAAAAAAAAAY more loath-able than a dude who simply smokes too much reefer.

I don't really feel bad for Gordon, even though I don't have a problem with smoking, because if you have a career that will pay you an 8 figure salary and all you gotta do is not get blazed... then it's on you.

But I'd take that over someone who beats the tar out of defenseless women and children any day.

AP's career should be as dead as Ray Rice's. The only silver lining is that the kids who he physically and emotionally scars will at least see a portion of his salary.

 

[Garthshort]

My guess is that he goes to an 0-2 team, that needs help at WR.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I say we bring in AP, Ray Rice, Josh Gordon, and Daryl Washington. Hell, lets see if we can Darren Sharper on a work release program for 6 months a year and bring him in as well .

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Willing to take on a pothead is a bit of a departure from classy, well-respected players like Fitzgerald. It's one thing to smoke pot on occasion and it's another to throw everything away in favor of being a stoner. Which is apparently what Gordon has been willing to do.

Which is also different from AP. How does strict disciplinarian equate to a drug addict?

I understand your overall point, but the man purposefully made his young son bleed. I find your description of his actions offensive.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

AP caused severe wounds on his sons testicles. There is no disputing that and that is not being a strict disciplinarian.

Josh Gordon smokes pot as did TM and the Cards turned his life around. Both players were kicked off their college teams. I'm willing to let Fitz teach him to he be a professional. If it doesn't work, you move on and if it does, you have a true #1 to take over for Fitz when he retires. It's truly and low risk high reward in a season that will be a rebuild year.

All of you relying on Fitz to teach him . . . how did that go with Michael Floyd? And Floyd was seemingly a better case than Gordon.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

But I thought he was "just" smoking some pot?

I don't really know. Possibly not but that begs the question, why weren't any more instances brought to light if he's the child abuser you're making him out to be?



I think it's exactly what Peterson said it was. He was switching his butt and accidentally hit his scrotum. Corporal punishment is legal in Texas and he wasn't trying to hurt his kid. He's being vilified about a divisive subject. Many do not believe in corporal punishment but many do.



Please don't condescend to know something that I'm unaware. I don't take beating a child lightly but I also differentiate between a spanking/whipping and beating. Peterson was doing the former, not the latter. He was not trying to torment his child he was disciplining him. There's a difference. If you disobey, there is a consequence. This wasn't a random act of cruelty. Rice was trying to hurt his girlfriend(wife?). You act as if all physical contact is the same.



You're acting as if Peterson is out roaming the streets, stalking children in the schoolyard. Discipline gone too far is not as bad as a lifelong criminal. You're saying a drug-addict, thief is better than a parent who got careless with a switch? One is trying to teach and discipline doing what was taught to him, what he thinks is right and is legal. The other is knowingly, repeatedly breaking the law. And you think that's somehow better, much less obviously so?

The mere fact that you’re okay using the term “whipping” as a legitimate means of action on a 4 year old is all I need to know about your moral compass.

 

[PDXChris]

All of you relying on Fitz to teach him . . . how did that go with Michael Floyd? And Floyd was seemingly a better case than Gordon.

I'm not saying it'll work, but I am willing to take the chance. It's would only be for the rest of the season and if you look at the fact that Gordon was suspended and was on his last chance, but rebounded to the point that get got another says he is will to try. That is unlike D-Wash. The issue with Floyd is that he is also a very stupid human being.

The parallels between TM and Gordon are much more similar. Both drafted within a year of each other, both physical freaks, both kicked out of college for weed plus more. The big glaring difference so far is once went to a very dysfunctional Cleveland and Gordon somewhat bounced back on his own, while TM has an amazing support system and is the constant professional now.

The talent is too amazing not to try.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I'm not saying it'll work, but I am willing to take the chance. It's would only be for the rest of the season and if you look at the fact that Gordon was suspended and was on his last chance, but rebounded to the point that get got another says he is will to try. That is unlike D-Wash. The issue with Floyd is that he is also a very stupid human being.

The parallels between TM and Gordon are much more similar. Both drafted within a year of each other, both physical freaks, both kicked out of college for weed plus more. The big glaring difference so far is once went to a very dysfunctional Cleveland and Gordon somewhat bounced back on his own, while TM has an amazing support system and is the constant professional now.

The talent is too amazing not to try.

That’s what you find as the only difference? Not the fact that Gordon has REPEATEDLY failed verses TM successfully walking the straight and narrow. You can try to chalk it up to influencers all you want but the truth with addiction always boils down to the individual. Gordon is a mess. Fitz doesn’t want that headache. I assure you of that.

 

[PDXChris]

That’s what you find as the only difference? Not the fact that Gordon has REPEATEDLY failed verses TM successfully walking the straight and narrow. You can try to chalk it up to influencers all you want but the truth with addiction always boils down to the individual. Gordon is a mess. Fitz doesn’t want that headache. I assure you of that.

You are probably right, but as an amateur couch GM, I want to take the risk for the rest of a lost season!

Doesn't matter anyways, it sounds like it's down the SF and Dallas.

 

[NJCardFan]

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Because if Fitz can teach him to be a professional and get him on track

Fitz can't teach someone to do or be something or someone they don't want to be. Remember, we had our own problem children and Fitz couldn't lead them on the straight and narrow. And Gordon has been suspended multiple times. Believe me, Fitz can't fix this kind of stupid.

 

[PDXChris]

Fitz can't teach someone to do or be something or someone they don't want to be. Remember, we had our own problem children and Fitz couldn't lead them on the straight and narrow. And Gordon has been suspended multiple times. Believe me, Fitz can't fix this kind of stupid.

But see, that's the thing, I want to find out if that is a result of him being stupid or being in Cleveland. He is owed 700K for the rest of the season and is a FA. You can literally cut him at any point if it is indeed because of him being stupid. But if it is because it is Cleveland, then you have a stud WR. If he was playing in any other city, I'd say stupid for sure.

 

[PDXChris]

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[NJCardFan]

But see, that's the thing, I want to find out if that is a result of him being stupid or being in Cleveland. He is owed 700K for the rest of the season and is a FA. You can literally cut him at any point if it is indeed because of him being stupid. But if it is because it is Cleveland, then you have a stud WR. If he was playing in any other city, I'd say stupid for sure.

As desperate as we have been at linebacker, we let Washington go without giving him a 2nd look and he only popped hot what, twice? What makes you think we're going to bring in a multiple offender. It's obvious Gordon doesn't get it. Think about it, he's thrown away millions, MILLIONS, just to smoke weed. Worse yet, he knows they're watching him. He's been busted several times meaning he's getting tested often and he still smokes. I don't want that kind of stupid anywhere near this team. In fact, he should have received a lifetime ban 3 years ago.