Lauri Markkanen

[sunsfan88]

For god's sakes, it's pick #4! It's not like we went from having the worst record to pick #30! The sky is NOT falling!

Who said the sky is falling? I simply said that the whole ranking thing was for Fultz/Ball. I'm not saying that our season is over just because we didn't get either one but we did get screwed out of getting either one.

 

[sunsfan88]

I'll trust McD on whoever he picks. I don't like Tatum one bit but I'll still root for him and give him a chance to prove himself.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Who said the sky is falling? I simply said that the whole ranking thing was for Fultz/Ball. I'm not saying that our season is over just because we didn't get either one but we did get screwed out of getting either one.

Fans might have thought it was all about Fultz and Ball, it remains to be seen whether GMs feel that way. And regardless of who we pick, one of the primary reasons we put Bledsoe on the bench was in order to create opportunity for Ulis and others. I really doubt we handle the season the way we did if we didn't have very young players sitting on the bench.

 

[Bodha]

For god's sakes, it's pick #4! It's not like we went from having the worst record to pick #30! The sky is NOT falling!

Would you say the same to the teams who were screwed in the 1985 Frozen Envelope draft?

You miss out on Patrick Ewing, but dont fret, you get Wayman Tisdale instead.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I can't believe after all the losses and discussion we had this season about Ball or Fultz, there's a 250 post thread about... another big white freaking stiff!

Chap, I know you blasted someone saying the sky's not falling and it's not... but for me, I still pretty damn cloudy as I believe there are two possible change your franchise type talents and we're talking about either getting a SF or a big white guy who shot the 3 well for 20 games. Neither of which likely move the needle for this team.

So, while the sky isn't falling, our predicament still sucks, IMO.

 

[Raze]

I can't believe after all the losses and discussion we had this season about Ball or Fultz, there's a 250 post thread about... another big white freaking stiff!

Chap, I know you blasted someone saying the sky's not falling and it's not... but for me, I still pretty damn cloudy as I believe there are two possible change your franchise type talents and we're talking about either getting a SF or a big white guy who shot the 3 well for 20 games. Neither of which likely move the needle for this team.

So, while the sky isn't falling, our predicament still sucks, IMO.

No the sky isn't falling and the cloudiness is pending.

Whoever gets taken 1st always bears the burden. The pressure is not only off of the following picks, they also are given a chip to prove they should've been taken 1st.

Let's say hypothetically that Jackson was top on our board. If we still land him at #4, it's all the better for us. Costs less. Less pressure. Big chip. Our greatest loss of course comes with the potential trade value of #1. But that always is dependent on finding a partner. So there actually might be more gain taking him at #4 then #1.

If our top 2-3 players on the board go before us, then yeah, I'm all in for it being cloudy. I would presume that would be Jackson, Tatum and Fultz.

Count me out on Markkanen at #4. He's no scrub, but he brings very little to the table. Great shooter. Adequate rebounder. Tall and athletic. But he can totally disappear in games. Plus, he's a spitting image of Bender. Why have two of them? I don't see anything here that puts him in the top 4.

 

[Mainstreet]

No the sky isn't falling and the cloudiness is pending.

Whoever gets taken 1st always bears the burden. The pressure is not only off of the following picks, they also are given a chip to prove they should've been taken 1st.

Let's say hypothetically that Jackson was top on our board. If we still land him at #4, it's all the better for us. Costs less. Less pressure. Big chip. Our greatest loss of course comes with the potential trade value of #1. But that always is dependent on finding a partner. So there actually might be more gain taking him at #4 then #1.

If our top 2-3 players on the board go before us, then yeah, I'm all in for it being cloudy. I would presume that would be Jackson, Tatum and Fultz.

Count me out on Markkanen at #4. He's no scrub, but he brings very little to the table. Great shooter. Adequate rebounder. Tall and athletic. But he can totally disappear in games. Plus, he's a spitting image of Bender. Why have two of them? I don't see anything here that puts him in the top 4.

Just once I wish the Suns had this burden.

You toss a great salad.

After the first couple of picks this is a tough draft to figure who goes where. Even then the Celtics may trade out of the 1st pick.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Plus, he's a spitting image of Bender. Why have two of them? I don't see anything here that puts him in the top 4.

As players they aren't much alike, closer to opposites than spitting images.

Lauri shot .423 from 3, Bender shot .277. Lauri shot .835 from the FT line, Bender shot .364. Lauri had a true shooting % of .635, Bender had a TS of .440. Lauri had an offensive rating of 134.1, Bender had an offensive rating of 86. And then there's the 25 to 5.3 difference in PER. Yes, one played a lot of minutes in college and the other played limited minutes in the NBA but saying they are the same is like saying water and fire are the same.

Bender shows signs of being an all around player when he fills out but shooting will likely never be his strength, defense will always be his calling card. Markkanen also shows signs of being a complete player but defense will never be his strength, he will always be an offensive threat more than anything. JMO of course.

 

[Raze]

As players they aren't much alike, closer to opposites than spitting images.

Lauri shot .423 from 3, Bender shot .277. Lauri shot .835 from the FT line, Bender shot .364. Lauri had a true shooting % of .635, Bender had a TS of .440. Lauri had an offensive rating of 134.1, Bender had an offensive rating of 86. And then there's the 25 to 5.3 difference in PER. Yes, one played a lot of minutes in college and the other played limited minutes in the NBA but saying they are the same is like saying water and fire are the same.

Bender shows signs of being an all around player when he fills out but shooting will likely never be his strength, defense will always be his calling card. Markkanen also shows signs of being a complete player but defense will never be his strength, he will always be an offensive threat more than anything. JMO of course.

7 feet tall
225-230 lbs
About 20 years old
Thin frame
Likes to shoot 3's
Likes to spot up shoot
Not a great rebounder for his size
Agile for his size
Doesn't offer much back to basket or even low post scoring
Decent dribbler for his size
Doesn't create a ton of O off the dribble
Currently only useful on one end of the floor

 

[sunsfan88]

7 feet tall
225-230 lbs
About 20 years old
Thin frame
Likes to shoot 3's
Likes to spot up shoot
Not a great rebounder for his size
Agile for his size
Doesn't offer much back to basket or even low post scoring
Decent dribbler for his size
Doesn't create a ton of O off the dribble
Currently only useful on one end of the floor

This doesn't seem true at all in Bender's case. As a matter of fact, he looked most uncomfortable when they tried to pretend he's Kyle Korver and just camp out to spot up and jack up 3s

 

[Adrian]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA

Sources: Phil Jackson met with Lauri Markkanen in New York on Monday, a player whom he's considering at No. 8 should Knicks move Porzingis.

 

[Mainstreet]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA

Sources: Phil Jackson met with Lauri Markkanen in New York on Monday, a player whom he's considering at No. 8 should Knicks move Porzingis.

I want Porzingis if the Knicks are going to trade him. Let's make a deal.

Unfortunately the Celtics will probably get him if he is moved.

The Suns are always one step behind the Celtics.

 

[devilalum]

I want Porzingis if the Knicks are going to trade him. Let's make a deal.

Unfortunately the Celtics will probably get him if he is moved.

The Suns are always one step behind the Celtics.

Yeah, I'd trade the #4 in a package for Porzingis long before I'd give up anything for old man Love.

I know he's 28 but still almost a decade older than our core.

 

[Chaplin]

I can't believe we're back to discussing Kevin Love.

 

[Adrian]

I want Porzingis if the Knicks are going to trade him. Let's make a deal.

Unfortunately the Celtics will probably get him if he is moved.

The Suns are always one step behind the Celtics.

What is KP value? 2 lottery first round picks + 2 players? Idk

 

[Mainstreet]

Yeah, I'd trade the #4 in a package for Porzingis long before I'd give up anything for old man Love.

I know he's 28 but still almost a decade older than our core.

Porzingis in a Suns uniform is stuff dreams are made of. I wonder if Bender and #4 would do it.

I still think Bender will be good though.

 

[Mainstreet]

What is KP value? 2 lottery first round picks + 2 players? Idk

Another try. Bledsoe and #4. I'd even throw in another draft pick.

 

[devilalum]

Porzingis in a Suns uniform is stuff dreams are made of. I wonder if Bender and #4 would do it.

I still think Bender will be good though.

I'd throw in both the Miami picks. Go big or go home.

 

[devilalum]

Another try. Bledsoe and #4. I'd even throw in another draft pick.

I'd do that. Roll with Ulis for a year and see what he can do as the starter.

 

[ColdPickleNachos]

Another try. Bledsoe and #4. I'd even throw in another draft pick.

Yeah. I might go even higher than that. Porzingis is the perfect target for this team to cash in on their assets.

 

[GatorAZ]

Boston blows our offers out of the water. Shoot.

 

[Mainstreet]

I'd do that. Roll with Ulis for a year and see what he can do as the starter.

Let's roll with that. LOL

 

[Mainstreet]

Boston blows our offers out of the water. Shoot.

Okay, Bledsoe, #4 and Bender.

 

[devilalum]

Boston blows our offers out of the water. Shoot.

Have the Knicks and Celts ever made a trade? Hard to imagine.

 

[Mainstreet]

Yeah. I might go even higher than that. Porzingis is the perfect target for this team to cash in on their assets.

I'm still at the bargaining table.