Palmer's deep ball arm-strength

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So far this year I don't recall him not underthrowing a deep ball. Granted a few of them caused the WR to come back to the ball forcing a PI but has there been any completions over 40+ yards?

Also regarding the last drive on 2nd/3rd/4th down...

2nd down - Even if Quinn doesn't knock that down DJ gets stopped short. He had 3 defenders flying right at him if you watch the replay

3rd down - Fitz was clearly his first read but was doubled. As he identified Brown on the sideline pressure and stepped up pressure from the NT was in his face causing him to release it too quick and overthrowing it.

4th down - Quinn basically timed his jump perfectly causing Palmer to lead DJ too far down the middle and high. Quinn wouldn't have knocked it down but I think it affected the throw.

Palmer seems to be perfect on touch throws but is more inaccurate on his quicker releases (excluding quick slants to John Brown). It's hard to hit a quick short throw in the middle of the field unless the OL creates a gap.

I counted two major drops including Gresham's. Funny to hear the announcers say "the usually sure-handed Jermaine Gresham".
 

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Arm strength never was and still isn't an issue for Palmer. But, he did underthrow Smoke on that deep pass that was intercepted. Brown was open and had Palmer led him properly, it was a TD...
 

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The issue with the final drive was if we were going to pass, why not short quick outs? We only needed 2 fricken yards! No need for deep throws. Get into FG range then go for the TD. The need to throw low to mid % passes when you only needed 2 yards is mind boggling.


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The issue with the final drive was if we were going to pass, why not short quick outs? We only needed 2 fricken yards! No need for deep throws. Get into FG range then go for the TD. The need to throw low to mid % passes when you only needed 2 yards is mind boggling.


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There were 4 or 5 different routes ran, some are short and some are long. CP went deep because it was wide open. Could he have thrown it short? Yes, but he chose the deep out route, he just flat out missed him.
 

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Very high risk throwing to Brown in double coverage. Smoke is very fast but his diminutive size makes it a gamble when he has to battle for the ball, especially when its under thrown.
 

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The easiest and surest completion on the failed pass to J. Brown was to Johnson who was virtually uncovered in the flat to the right.
 

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He's repeatedly under thrown nearly every deep throw this year IMO, so I'm not sure what you're watching.
 

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He's never worked with receivers this fast before. His arm strength is average, not stellar. His game strength is his accuracy and intelligence, and that wasn't present yesterday (accuracy anyway).
 

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Was going to say the same thing. For a guy who always had a great arm he is short on lots of balls thi syear
 

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He's repeatedly under thrown nearly every deep throw this year IMO, so I'm not sure what you're watching.

Totally agree. Most of the pass interference calls against John Brown were because of short throws that he had to slow down for. If those throws were hit in stride, they would be TD's, including the one on the interception this last game.
 

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Totally agree. Most of the pass interference calls against John Brown were because of short throws that he had to slow down for. If those throws were hit in stride, they would be TD's, including the one on the interception this last game.

I'm not so sure about that, I would like to hear what CP has to say about that INT. From what I can see the safety over the top was coming in rather quickly. I think CP tried to drop it right between the two defenders thinking that the CB wouldn't get there in time, but JB would. If he throws it any further the safety would have been there to either knock it down or intercept it. IMO
 

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So far this year I don't recall him not underthrowing a deep ball. Granted a few of them caused the WR to come back to the ball forcing a PI but has there been any completions over 40+ yards?

He under threw the ball on the Floyd pass interference call in the end zone. He had to slow down and come back to the ball. It should have been placed 3-4 yards further.

He under threw the ball to Brown on the INT as well. If that ball was in front of him instead of behind, it was a TD.

He has been under throwing balls more often than we think.
 
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He under threw the ball on the Floyd pass interference call in the end zone. He had to slow down and come back to the ball. It should have been placed 3-4 yards further.

He under threw the ball to Brown on the INT as well. If that ball was in front of him instead of behind, it was a TD.

He has been under throwing balls more often than we think.

That's my point and I agree. I think it's an issue going forward.
 

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Was going to say the same thing. For a guy who always had a great arm he is short on lots of balls thi syear

I don't believe it was the case with this throw, but there is an overall philosophy that the one thing you don't want to do on a deep pass is overthrow it. Nothing good will come from it. Most coaches will tell QBs that on deep throws, make sure it isn't overthrown so you have the chance for a catch or a penalty, and it is up to the WR to make sure it isn't picked.
 
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