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The NFL is a business just like any other out there. Most businesses will can you if you test positive for a drug including weed. Why is it wrong for the NFL to do it and OK for normal business to do it? I understand weed isn't as big of a deal as it was years ago, but you can't harp on the NFL for doing what any other normal business owners would do.

Sounds like you think NFL players should get a pass and normal employees shouldn't. They get suspended, normal employees get fired.

They are not normal employees, just like rock stars are not and the game they play is about as far as one can get from a normal job description. Just look at the paycheck and that lifestyle along with their occupation of knocking the crap out of someone to succeed and it will never be fixed by these comical suspensions. I think it is hilarious that Lawrence Taylor is in the Hall of Fame after playing high on coke while Washington's whole career will end over pot. Again, I'm not saying I condone drugs but the judgment of the NFL is laughable concerning their rules :)
 

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They are not normal employees, just like rock stars are not and the game they play is about as far as one can get from a normal job description. Just look at the paycheck and that lifestyle along with their occupation of knocking the crap out of someone to succeed and it will never be fixed by these comical suspensions. I think it is hilarious that Lawrence Taylor is in the Hall of Fame after playing high on coke while Washington's whole career will end over pot. Again, I'm not saying I condone drugs but the judgment of the NFL is laughable concerning their rules :)

Well, the entire United States has been way too harsh on marijuana users. That is changing, and the NFL will surely follow. I bet you a big beer if you ever come to Arizona, five years from now, that marijuana use will not be punished by the NFL at all.

For any human being, I feel far less worried about someone smoking pot regularly than hitting the Jack Daniels or popping Vicodin like candy.
 

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Yep, I'd rather hang with a stoned **** than someone drunk or on scripts. Hell, last guy I hung with at a "get-together" who was high read a newspaper. A freaking newspaper. Sat there the whole time in the corner, feet propped up, with a paper, saying "yep" and laughing occasionally before leaving.

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Well, the entire United States has been way too harsh on marijuana users. That is changing, and the NFL will surely follow. I bet you a big beer if you ever come to Arizona, five years from now, that marijuana use will not be punished by the NFL at all.

For any human being, I feel far less worried about someone smoking pot regularly than hitting the Jack Daniels or popping Vicodin like candy.

I think that whole era of Lawrence Taylor was one big coke party. I won't mention names of the players who I heard it from but I heard it directly from the former Houston Oiler players who played with him, and Kenny Stabler was a huge coke head and every other drug he could get a hold of. They said he once went out before a game and got totally high and wasted and did not come in off the town till the morning moments from kickoff to the locker room. They said they where all freaking out because the guy was still wasted and could hardly walk and then he reached into a bottle of pills and popped some all the color of a Walt Disney film and they claimed his eyes got immediately large and awake when he picked his head up and went out and had a great game. Then we have Max Hall... nah, let's not even bother going there lol
 

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I don't even care what they do to themselves. Totally don't give a ****. It's when they start hurting civilians that I care. These dude's are big and strong and quick and they know how to use leverage and angles and therefore I don't want them attacking a normal person. What they do to their own bodies is no concern of mine, just leave normal people out of it. That's all.

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Right off the bat, I think what Ray Rice did was inexcusable and the man should be behind bars or some kind of jail sentence. I do not do drugs, but personally do not see the big problem with marijuana. My point is this, there is a judicial court system in this country and it should decide whether or not a player should play due to an offense. Meaning, if the man is not prohibited to do other aspects of life by the law, then he should be able to carry on with his job. I think the NFL acting as a secondary court system on offenses and implementing suspensions for such things is a farce. Our own legal system is far from perfect but the NFL acting as a unbiased ruling party of judgment is a joke to me. If Washington or anyone is not prohibited by the law to walk the streets or partake in other functions, the NFL should not be a dictator adding its own implications. The only time I feel the NFL should suspend a player is when the player is doing something which would affect their ability to decide the outcome of a game, an example being PEDs. I just see the whole NFL suspension thing now as a complete fraud without any system or judgment which merits their actions that can be considered appropriate

And this is not even related to the fact that I could never stand Goodell lol

Agree with you 100%. The teams should be responsible for their own players. The NFL has no business sticking their noses into it. They aren't paying the players.
 

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Agree with you 100%. The teams should be responsible for their own players. The NFL has no business sticking their noses into it. They aren't paying the players.

They are paying the players. It's not a coincidence that the salary cap has always been right around the TV revenue each team gets. Don't you remember all those years the Cards dragged their feet in getting rookie contracts done? One reason was that the Cards were waiting for their TV money.


Now if each team negotiated TV deals for themselves, your view on who should punish a player who has done wrong would have some weight to it.
 

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Employers can legally require employees to be drug free and even tobacco free.The players bargained their terms in the CBA. In all criminal situations the process should play out. If you're gonna have a standard make it be related to a conviction, period. Other employers do the same. For example. A misdemeanor could be 2 games and a felony 6 and then up from there for repeat offenders.

That being said the leagues marihuana policy is based largely on federal pressure under the antitrust exemption and secondarily on PR principles because the league would have trouble with parents accepting a league that allows players to smoke the evil evil pot plant.


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