Aaron Brooks

[Griffin]

Can't believe that is being said. Telfair was in everyone's doghouse a month and a half ago. So what has happened? Is he finally maturing?

I think it has more to do with how poorly Brooks played for the Suns than with how Telfair is playing.

Brooks China experience might give the Suns a chance to sign him cheaper than if he was playing in the league this year.

I don't know about that. Playing in China certainly didn't deter NBA teams from overpaying for Josh Childress. Well, at least it didn't deter the Suns.

 

[Superbone]

I don't know about that. Playing in China certainly didn't deter NBA teams from overpaying for Josh Childress. Well, at least it didn't deter the Suns.

Or playing on Mars. Where he didn't play either.

 

[Gaddabout]

I don't know about that. Playing in China certainly didn't deter NBA teams from overpaying for Josh Childress. Well, at least it didn't deter the Suns.

Childress came to the Suns from Greece, where I'm certain he was regularly getting his groove on with the sticky weed.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Or playing on Mars. Where he didn't play either.

Well played. Unfortunately, the Comedy Club is one forum over. Sarver has sucked all the humor out of us.

Steve

 

[Phrazbit]

Just thinking about Brooks angers me. Dragic was one of our few youngsters who had shown potential... and we ship him off AND a 1st round pick for half a season of a ball chucking cancer who is an inferior players to Goran to begin with...

There are not words to describe the failure.

That said, we might as well bring him back and pray he at least turns into a trade asset.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Just thinking about Brooks angers me. Dragic was one of our few youngsters who had shown potential... and we ship him off AND a 1st round pick for half a season of a ball chucking cancer who is an inferior players to Goran to begin with...

There are not words to describe the failure.

That said, we might as well bring him back and pray he at least turns into a trade asset.

For some reason, the organization wanted to make a playoff push. At that point in the season, for whatever reason, Dragic was obviously our weakest link. He had played horribly through the first half of the season and our biggest failing was an inability to rest Nash. We fell apart not too long after the trade but at the time it was made, our 1st round pick didn't look to have much value. I can't fault the organization for taking this gamble other than already faulting them for the fact they were interested in a playoff push in the first place.

Steve

 

[elindholm]

That said, we might as well bring him back and pray he at least turns into a trade asset.

Why not just go after Dragic again? He's a free agent and the Rockets may not want to spend a lot of Lowry's backup.

(I'm probably not advocating this, since I'm not all that high on Dragic, but it's worth mentioning as a possibility.)

 

[SirStefan32]

Why not just go after Dragic again? He's a free agent and the Rockets may not want to spend a lot of Lowry's backup.

(I'm probably not advocating this, since I'm not all that high on Dragic, but it's worth mentioning as a possibility.)

I watched a couple of recent Rockets games, and I actually thought Goran did a really good job in each game. I must admit that I was somewhat impressed. We're not going anywhere for a couple of years, so I'd definitely go after Goran. Not sure how much better he is going to get, but at least he plays good defense.

 

[Absolute Zero]

Brooks goes off for 33 in the title game in China, but goes down to Marbury's team in game 5 of the finals. Marbury scores 41 before fouling out. http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7...eads-beijing-ducks-first-chinese-league-title

 

[Mainstreet]

So I wonder what Lance Blanks has in mind in regard to Brooks? I'm sure he went to China to explore options.

 

[Phrazbit]

For some reason, the organization wanted to make a playoff push. At that point in the season, for whatever reason, Dragic was obviously our weakest link. He had played horribly through the first half of the season and our biggest failing was an inability to rest Nash. We fell apart not too long after the trade but at the time it was made, our 1st round pick didn't look to have much value. I can't fault the organization for taking this gamble other than already faulting them for the fact they were interested in a playoff push in the first place.

Steve

I know what you're saying... I just dont see how they thought Brooks was going to be the missing ingredient. He was hoooooorrible for Houston last year, playing worse than Dragic was. In their effort to make a push they downgraded the position AND gave up a pick. I know the pick lacked value, it was Orlando's pick, but young guys with developmental potential is what the team should be stockpiling, not giving away.

I dont fault them for wanting to make a push but I will spit on their stupid method of doing so.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I know what you're saying... I just dont see how they thought Brooks was going to be the missing ingredient. He was hoooooorrible for Houston last year, playing worse than Dragic was. In their effort to make a push they downgraded the position AND gave up a pick. I know the pick lacked value, it was Orlando's pick, but young guys with developmental potential is what the team should be stockpiling, not giving away.

I dont fault them for wanting to make a push but I will spit on their stupid method of doing so.

In retrospect I understand. But the Suns brass had been watching Brooks since before he was drafted, long before his breakout season with the Rockets and subsequent injury. They certainly miscalculated how much difficulty he would have making the transition to the Suns.

I would imagine that he is still of interest to them. IMO Brooks is still a significant upgrade over Telfair.

 

[Mainstreet]

Here is a blog article from Lance Blanks in China. He doesn't say much other than Brooks liked his experience in Phoenix. Blanks spent a considerable amount of time talking to him. I'm sure Blanks had something in mind before traveling to China... just what, I have no idea but there had to be some talk about Brooks future.

http://blog.suns.com/2012/03/6080/

 

[slinslin]

He said they had a candid interview and that Brooks followed the team closely from overseas. Maybe Brooks had the guts to give him a dose of reality about the status of this team.

Anyhow I doubt that Brooks is interested in backing up Nash.

 

[Mainstreet]

He said they had a candid interview and that Brooks followed the team closely from overseas. Maybe Brooks had the guts to give him a dose of reality about the status of this team.

Anyhow I doubt that Brooks is interested in backing up Nash.

This is one of the reasons I feel Blanks trip to China was particularly interesting. I can't help but wonder if Blanks is covering all the bases.

 

[slinslin]

Well the Suns should try to keep Brooks regardless.

It is never a good thing to let proven NBA players walk away without compensation. The same applies for Robin Lopez.

The only way you let them go is if someone offers them an unreasonable contract or that you need the capspace for other signings but looking at the FA class that seems unlikely.

 

[slinslin]

Just thinking about Brooks angers me. Dragic was one of our few youngsters who had shown potential... and we ship him off AND a 1st round pick for half a season of a ball chucking cancer who is an inferior players to Goran to begin with...

There are not words to describe the failure.

That said, we might as well bring him back and pray he at least turns into a trade asset.

Goran Dragic is starting to piss me off. Not him personally but Suns fans bringing him up everytime now that he is playing well for the last month.

At the time of the trade Goran Dragic was playing like the worst PG in the entire league bar none and Aaron Brooks half a season removed from winning MIP and averaging 19/6.

I don't judge Brooks at all on how he played for the Suns for a limited amount of games in a totally different offense and as backup for Nash.

I hated that we gave up a draft pick along with Dragic but I am not crying about Dragic and I hope we do not go after him in FA because it will likely need a big offer to convince him to come back and to convince Houston to not offer a better deal now.

Goran is averaging 17/9 in 14 games as a starter now but it is still just 14 games for a fringe playoff team. Do you really want to pay a 26 year old 8M$ per season based on one stretch?

 

[Mainstreet]

Slinslin, I agree about keeping Brooks or getting something of value for him. The same with Lopez. I do think Brooks is better as a starter than coming off the bench. Also it would be easier to work in a young PG (if the Suns went this way in the draft) behind him. Nash may want too much money in a multi-year deal.

 

[SirStefan32]

Goran is averaging 17/9 in 14 games as a starter now but it is still just 14 games for a fringe playoff team. Do you really want to pay a 26 year old 8M$ per season based on one stretch?

Who suggested we give him $8M?

17 and 9 is pretty decent, but nobody here (or in any NBA FO) is going to suggest giving him $8M.

 

[slinslin]

Who suggested we give him $8M?

17 and 9 is pretty decent, but nobody here (or in any NBA FO) is going to suggest giving him $8M.

Oh you need to check out other Suns boards and 8M$ per is probably what Goran will get based on his play right now.

 

[sunsfan88]

Isn't the Nash and Dragic return to PHX ironic?

Nash was drafted by the Suns...played well in limited opportunities then got traded to Dallas, Texas. He played really well for the Mavs then when he was a FA, he came back to PHX and won back to back MVPs and established himself a top 10 PG of all time.

Dragic was drafted by the Suns...played well in limited opportunities then got traded to Houston, Texas. He's playing really well for the Rockets and now he's a FA with a chance to return to PHX...

Irony anyone?

BTW I'm not saying that Dragic will be even close to as good as Nash if Goran comes back to the Suns but the situations are very similar.

 

[elindholm]

Oh you need to check out other Suns boards and 8M$ per is probably what Goran will get based on his play right now.

Actually I'd expect him to get quite a bit more. Statistically, he looks like a top-ten center, and even if some on this board don't see him that way, you can bet that enough of the NBA does that he'd get paid that way.

 

[BC867]

Oh you need to check out other Suns boards and 8M$ per is probably what Goran will get based on his play right now.

Actually I'd expect him to get quite a bit more. Statistically, he looks like a top-ten center, and even if some on this board don't see him that way, you can bet that enough of the NBA does that he'd get paid that way.

Easy now, Grandpa, it's time for you to take your afternoon nap. Here is your walker. Let's go!

 

[slinslin]

Actually I'd expect him to get quite a bit more. Statistically, he looks like a top-ten center, and even if some on this board don't see him that way, you can bet that enough of the NBA does that he'd get paid that way.

Goran (Dragic) not Gortat.

 

[elindholm]

Goran (Dragic) not Gortat.

Oh, ahem, never mind. You were clear; I just didn't read carefully.