The latest douche: Hines Ward

[BigRedRage]

So? It's okay if everyone is doing it? Give me a break. The guy is a douche. He showed no concern for his own life or anyone else on the road that night.

There is no excuse for drinking and driving. None.

I agree and I am against drinking and driving but am not going to chastise someone for the mistake. our govt is soft on it so people do it, it is what it is. Ill have a few and drive but if I am beyond buzzed I wont even attempt it as I do not want the fines and embaressment.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

To me it is not a "mistake." It is a conscious choice.

 

[BigRedRage]

To me it is not a "mistake." It is a conscious choice.

true in most cases except the blacked out drivers.

Either way, our DUI penalties are soft so noone cares.

If you went to prison for 2 years for a DUI I bet it would be reduced by 95%

Even if a bill came out, im sure alcohol companies would slide millions under the rug to have it rejected.

 

[blindseyed]

true in most cases except the blacked out drivers.

Either way, our DUI penalties are soft so noone cares.

If you went to prison for 2 years for a DUI I bet it would be reduced by 95%

Even if a bill came out, im sure alcohol companies would slide millions under the rug to have it rejected.

The govt doesn't have that power, It's each state that has.their laws that determine what the punishment is, not sure about GA but it seems some states are.not very harsh on drunk driving

 

[Brian in Mesa]

BRR - I agree that our laws are too soft when it comes to DUI's. The consequences need to come closer to matching their crime. When these idiots get behind the wheel after drinking they are endangering everyone near them - with a deadly weapon...their vehicle. Then they get busted and get a slap on the wrist. It's no wonder there are so many repeat offenders.

 

[AzStevenCal]

BRR - I agree that our laws are too soft when it comes to DUI's. The consequences need to come closer to matching their crime. When these idiots get behind the wheel after drinking they are endangering everyone near them - with a deadly weapon...their vehicle. Then they get busted and get a slap on the wrist. It's no wonder there are so many repeat offenders.

There's more to it that that, IMO. We send all kinds of mixed messages on this subject. One the hand, we send the message that you should never drink and drive but at the same time we see advertisement after advertisement showing happy people drinking at a party or happy people drinking at a bar etc. These places are away from home and the almost mythical designated driver can't drive every guest home.

We need a zero tolerance/zero consumption kind of thing. Legalize marijuana and apply the same rules to each. If you've consumed either within X amount of time, you go to prison for life. Take all the money we waste right now because of the war on drugs/criminalization of pot and have all the booze companies contribute their annual marketing allocation and you have more than enough money to provide free, effective alternatives to driving (cots in the back, taxis, transporters whatever). And yes, I'm only partially serious but until we can do something like this we will always have a drinking & driving problem.

Steve

 

[40yearfan]

There's more to it that that, IMO. We send all kinds of mixed messages on this subject. One the hand, we send the message that you should never drink and drive but at the same time we see advertisement after advertisement showing happy people drinking at a party or happy people drinking at a bar etc. These places are away from home and the almost mythical designated driver can't drive every guest home.

We need a zero tolerance/zero consumption kind of thing. Legalize marijuana and apply the same rules to each. If you've consumed either within X amount of time, you go to prison for life. Take all the money we waste right now because of the war on drugs/criminalization of pot and have all the booze companies contribute their annual marketing allocation and you have more than enough money to provide free, effective alternatives to driving (cots in the back, taxis, transporters whatever). And yes, I'm only partially serious but until we can do something like this we will always have a drinking & driving problem.

Steve

How many cops do you think are going to turn a young kid in after blowing an 8.1 or 8.2 knowing that doing so will mean them spending the rest of their life in jail? Not very practical.

 

[AzStevenCal]

How many cops do you think are going to turn a young kid in after blowing an 8.1 or 8.2 knowing that doing so will mean them spending the rest of their life in jail? Not very practical.

It's not very practical which is why I said I'm only partially serious. I don't think there's a magic pill for this problem and if/when we eventually decriminalize pot (which I'm in favor of), we'll just be adding to this problem. I just think it's much more than a simple case of "people should know better than to drink and drive". Yes, they should know better but we allow the advertisers to send a completely different message and our youth (and our adults) are constantly bombarded by these ads. It has to have an influence.

If it was up to me there would be no such thing as a legal limit. Drinking and driving simply do not mix. Some people are more functional drunk than others but that's of little consequence. Very few drinkers consider themselves impaired even though study after study clearly reveals it. I know a lot of decent, hard working, caring people that occasionally drink and drive. They will continue to do so until the laws become strict enough to force a change or until a dramatic moment in their life teaches them the painful message - don't drink and drive.

Steve

 

[BigRedRage]

BRR - I agree that our laws are too soft when it comes to DUI's. The consequences need to come closer to matching their crime. When these idiots get behind the wheel after drinking they are endangering everyone near them - with a deadly weapon...their vehicle. Then they get busted and get a slap on the wrist. It's no wonder there are so many repeat offenders.

good friend of mine finally got his first dui after years of trying, due to a broken taillight.

2 months ago his breathalyzer was removed.

Every time he comes over he has a 12 pack, kills at least 6 in an hour and leaves.

Some people never learn.

 

[BigRedRage]

It's not very practical which is why I said I'm only partially serious. I don't think there's a magic pill for this problem and if/when we eventually decriminalize pot (which I'm in favor of), we'll just be adding to this problem. I just think it's much more than a simple case of "people should know better than to drink and drive". Yes, they should know better but we allow the advertisers to send a completely different message and our youth (and our adults) are constantly bombarded by these ads. It has to have an influence.

If it was up to me there would be no such thing as a legal limit. Drinking and driving simply do not mix. Some people are more functional drunk than others but that's of little consequence. Very few drinkers consider themselves impaired even though study after study clearly reveals it. I know a lot of decent, hard working, caring people that occasionally drink and drive. They will continue to do so until the laws become strict enough to force a change or until a dramatic moment in their life teaches them the painful message - don't drink and drive.

Steve

meh, pot driving is totally different. If we are concerned about less accidents because everyone is going 30 MPH down iten i guess its an issue.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

meh, pot driving is totally different. If we are concerned about less accidents because everyone is going 30 MPH down iten i guess its an issue.

Personally, I don't care which impairment or distraction is behind a person's poor driving. If it becomes an issue and affects their ability to operate a vehicle safely - it is a concern for all of us. They are endangering everyone else on the road.

DUI, driving with drugs (prescribed or illegal) in your system, driving while eating, driving while texting, driving while overly tired or distracted...

We need to reduce all of these situations.

 

[AZCARDSFANATIC]

I do not want the fines and embaressment.

Guess the idea of killing someone isn't high on the list?

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Guess the idea of killing someone isn't high on the list?

I see what you did there.

 

[BigRedRage]

Guess the idea of killing someone isn't high on the list?

next time I will list every probably consequence to dui driving that I said I do not do so that not to offend you.