Whis tells Bick and MJ Cards are talking to Faneca

[cardsfanmd]

I was looking to listen to the interview with Skelton but listened to this one first. Whiz comes out and says the Cards are trying to sign Faneca and we'll know the deal in the next day or two. He also discusses a few of the draft picks.

http://xtra910.com/pages/podcasts.php

 

[TJ]

The underlying message here is "hey Deuce, sign your tender already!" Although id rather have Faneca

 

[cardsfanmd]

The underlying message here is "hey Deuce, sign your tender already!" Although id rather have Faneca

FWIW, Faneca is a LG and would likely be taking Wells' spot. I also think Duece is probably better than Faneca right now. If Duece doesn't get his act together we could see Brown, Faneca, Sendlein, House and Keith as the starting O-line.

 

[BACH]

FWIW, Faneca is a LG and would likely be taking Wells' spot. I also think Duece is probably better than Faneca right now. If Duece doesn't get his act together we could see Brown, Faneca, Sendlein, House and Keith as the starting O-line.

Eventhough Herman Johnson is listed as a Guard I doubt he will ever play anything else but RT.

 

[Cardsfanstl]

Even though he is not the same as two years ago this would be great for the Cards.

 

[Cards Czar]

Cardinals | Will contact Alan Faneca
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Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:39:03 -0400

Arizona Cardinals general manager Rod Graves said he will touch base with the agent for unrestricted free-agent OG Alan Faneca (Jets), reports Brad Biggs, of the National Football Post. ​

http://www.kffl.com/hotw/NFL?page=2.



NFP: http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Cardinals-will-place-a-call-on-Faneca.html&team=147

He gets 5.25M guaranteed from the JETS. Now what will he want on top of that. Hmmmm. One wonders.
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[HerefortheCards]

Wouldn't our oline be Brown, Faneca, Lyle, Hadnot, Keith?

I seriously doubt we are paying 3 mil a year for Hadnot to sit.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

As Joe pointed out, Faneca gave up 6 sacks last season. The 49ers bring it on every play, the last thing we need is a poor pass blocker next to Levi. Wells gave up "0" sacks last year.

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

As Joe pointed out, Faneca gave up 6 sacks last season. The 49ers bring it on every play, the last thing we need is a poor pass blocker next to Levi. Wells gave up "0" sacks last year.

This is a falicy...pass rushers will follow the path of least resistance. With both Gandy and Brown lacking the footwork, and quickness, to be anything more than human-turnstiles versus speed-rushers on the outside, it negated the necessity to create an inside push.

In my opinion, Faneca may be in the twilight of his career, but he is still an upgrade over either Wells, or Latui.

 

[cardsfanmd]

Wouldn't our oline be Brown, Faneca, Lyle, Hadnot, Keith?

I seriously doubt we are paying 3 mil a year for Hadnot to sit.

Quite honestly, I had forgotten about Hadnot. Good call.

As Joe pointed out, Faneca gave up 6 sacks last season. The 49ers bring it on every play, the last thing we need is a poor pass blocker next to Levi. Wells gave up "0" sacks last year.

This is true... i think it would be very telling as to where Whiz wants this offense to go if we really do sign Faneca and stick him in a starting position.

 

[Cards Czar]

As Joe pointed out, Faneca gave up 6 sacks last season. The 49ers bring it on every play, the last thing we need is a poor pass blocker next to Levi. Wells gave up "0" sacks last year.

But Wells run blocking sucked. Wizz stated that they want to go to more run plays so you never know. Wells was the week link last year and Faneca is still a better run blocker. But who knows whats going to happen.

 

[spanky1]

Faneca at LG.....Wells can be a versatile back up at LG, C or RT. Better idea than Hadnot.

 

[kerouac9]

This is a falicy...pass rushers will follow the path of least resistance. With both Gandy and Brown lacking the footwork, and quickness, to be anything more than human-turnstiles versus speed-rushers on the outside, it negated the necessity to create an inside push.

In my opinion, Faneca may be in the twilight of his career, but he is still an upgrade over either Wells, or Latui.

So you're solution to having a human turnstile at LT is to put a second turnstile at LG? Are we opening a section of the Light Rail at Cardinals Stadium?

If Faneca was still the Pro Bowl player that many here think he is, he wouldn't have been released by the Jets so they could start Vlad Ducasse there, whom they've never seen play in their system, or Matt Slausen, who's appeared in 3 NFL games.

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

So you're solution to having a human turnstile at LT is to put a second turnstile at LG?

When did I ever say this was "my plan"?

Reread my post, and try to refrain from putting words in someone else's mouth.

I gave my opinion as to why Wells giving up zero sacks is a misleading statistic, and that Faneca, in the short term, would be an upgrade over both of last year's starting guards.

Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Stout]

But Wells run blocking sucked. Wizz stated that they want to go to more run plays so you never know. Wells was the week link last year and Faneca is still a better run blocker. But who knows whats going to happen.

This is true... i think it would be very telling as to where Whiz wants this offense to go if we really do sign Faneca and stick him in a starting position.

Bingo. Wells doesn't seem suited to run blocking in the least, and Whiz seems to want to transition to a grinding running attack, which I absolutely LOVE. In this case, Faneca would be a huge upgrade over Wells.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

This is a falicy...pass rushers will follow the path of least resistance. With both Gandy and Brown lacking the footwork, and quickness, to be anything more than human-turnstiles versus speed-rushers on the outside, it negated the necessity to create an inside push.

In my opinion, Faneca may be in the twilight of his career, but he is still an upgrade over either Wells, or Latui.

BIM: Fallacy - Lutui

Well, we certainly know the point of least resistance on the New York Jets, a primarily running team, and it wasn't Ferguson playing to Faneca's left.

I'll pass on your "upgrade".

 

[lobo]

So you're solution to having a human turnstile at LT is to put a second turnstile at LG? Are we opening a section of the Light Rail at Cardinals Stadium? .

Right or wrong this is funny!!

 

[JeffGollin]

I didn't interpret that interview as meaning anything special regarding Faneca. The body language of an earlier D Urban report suggests that the Cards are meeting with Faneca's agent partly as a courtesy and that we shouldn't read too much from it.

Then again, it could all be posturing (i.e. not wanting to appear too eager).

Still, the impression I get is that the Cardinals are mildly interested, but no more than 20% likely to even try to get a deal done.

A lot of people are saying Faneca's performance slipped last year with the Jets. That's what they're saying (and it's disturbing) but, having not actually watched Faneca in action, I'd be inclined to defer to the Cardinal coaching and scouting staffs: If they feel he can help us, I hope we sign him. If they don't, then we won't sign him and the whole issue will fade away anyway.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Bingo. Wells doesn't seem suited to run blocking in the least, and Whiz seems to want to transition to a grinding running attack, which I absolutely LOVE. In this case, Faneca would be a huge upgrade over Wells.

Well, we aren't the second coming of the NY Jets. We actually plan on passing the ball, certainly more then the Jets last season. It's a trade off that favours Wells, to my mind, particularly with Levi moving to left tackle.

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

BIM: Fallacy - Lutui

Whoops

I'll pass on your "upgrade".

Fair enough. I'd rather see the Cards focus on longterm solutions, rather than bring in veterans that may, or may not, have enough left in the tank to make a difference.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Whoops



Fair enough. I'd rather see the Cards focus on longterm solutions, rather than bring in veterans that may, or may not, have enough left in the tank to make a difference.

Cheers!

 

[Stout]

Well, we aren't the second coming of the NY Jets. We actually plan on passing the ball, certainly more then the Jets last season. It's a trade off that favours Wells, to my mind, particularly with Levi moving to left tackle.

I can understand that opinion, and I'm certainly not trying to say we won't run as much as the Jets. We'll be more of a balanced offense. I just think that Wells is far, far worse at run blocking than Faneca is at pass blocking. Wells is routinely blown into the backfield on running plays and, paired next to Sendlein, who isn't a drive blocker and isn't a huge strength in the run game himself, really hurts our interior rush game.

I guess it's a lesser of two evil; two less-than-stellar pass blockers on the left side, or two less-than-stellar run blockers on the left/center lol

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

Cheers!

 

[Duckjake]

Bingo. Wells doesn't seem suited to run blocking in the least, and Whiz seems to want to transition to a grinding running attack, which I absolutely LOVE. In this case, Faneca would be a huge upgrade over Wells.

Note that 6 of the top 12 teams in rushing missed the playoffs last season.

Only 2 of the top 12 passing teams stayed home.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

I can understand that opinion, and I'm certainly not trying to say we won't run as much as the Jets. We'll be more of a balanced offense. I just think that Wells is far, far worse at run blocking than Faneca is at pass blocking. Wells is routinely blown into the backfield on running plays and, paired next to Sendlein, who isn't a drive blocker and isn't a huge strength in the run game himself, really hurts our interior rush game.

I guess it's a lesser of two evil; two less-than-stellar pass blockers on the left side, or two less-than-stellar run blockers on the left/center lol

I think the REAL competition in training camp will be between Wells and Hadnot because of the concerns mentioned. The loser becomes the interior backup.