Predicting the Cardinals' Draft Plan

[Mitch]

1. They will not trade up from the #26 spot. They will wait in hopes that one of the following players is available at #26:

LB Rolando McClain
QB Jimmy Clausen
LB Brandon Graham
LB Will Weatherspoon
LB Jason Pierre-Paul
LB Sergio Kindle
NT Dan Williams
CB/S Earl Thomas
T Charles Brown
T Anthony Davis
WR Golden Tate

2. If they get a good offer to trade down from #26 to pick up an extra 3rd round pick, I think there's a very good chance they will do it, because I beleive they would like to take a QB in round three, and having three picks in round three would allow them to address other needs and take a QB.

3. If they trade down, let's say for Cleveland's #38 and #92 picks, the players they would be hoping for at #38 would be any of the aforementioned players they were hoping for at #26, if that becomes the case, or one of the following players:

LB Sean Lee
LB Ricky Sapp
LB Jerry Hughes
CB Devin McCourty
NT Terrence Cody.

4. At #58...if they make the trade and take LB Sean Lee, they hope for the following at #58:

T Rodger Saffold

WRs Demaryius Thomas
WR Damian Williams
WR Mardy Gilyard
WR Arrelious Benn

NT Linval Joseph
NT Cam Thomas

CB Kareem Jackson
CB Patrick Robinson
CB Perrish Cox
CB Jerome Murphy
CB Chris Cook
CB Brandon Ghee

LB Jason Worilds
LB Koa Misi
LB Dekoda Watson
LB Thaddeus Gibson
LB Jermaine Cunningham.

5. With the 3 3rd Rounders (#88, #89, and #92)...

QBs: Mike Kafka, Jonathan Crompton, John Skelton, Levi Brown, Jevan Snead or Jarrett Brown.

OL: Mike Johnson, Mitch Petrus, Jared Veldheer, Matt Tennant, J.D. Walton or Kyle Calloway.

WRs: Dorin Dickerson, Taylor Price, Mike Williams, Brandon LaFell, Eric Decker, Jordan Shipley, Andre Roberts, Dezmon Briscoe or Jacoby Ford.

TEs: Rob Gronkowski, Ed Dickson, Dennis Pitta, Tony Moeaki or Colin Peek.

LB: Donald Butler, Pat Angerer, Brandon Lang, Brandon Spikes, Roderick Muckelroy, A.J. Edds or Greg Hardy.

CB: Donovan Warren, Dominique Franks, Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, Amari Spivey or Myron Lewis.

S: Morgan Burnett, Nate Allen, Major Wright.

6. At #123, the Cardinals will hope for one of the players they were considering in the third round will be there in the 4th. last year they deliberated over whether to take CB Greg Toler in the 3rd round, and when they chose S Rashad Johnson instead, they were hoping that Toler would be there for them in the 4th and, to their delight he was.

7. As for the #195 and #233 picks...I think I know who they already are: (really, it's anyone's guess and the options are too numerous to list). But, here's my guess:

ILB Boris Lee (Troy) and SS Cody Grimm (Virginia Tech).


After all is said and done, I see it as something like this:

#38: Sean Lee, ILB, Penn. St.

#58: Linval Joseph, NT, East Carolina

#88: Andre Roberts, WR, The Citadel

#89: Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, CB/FS, Indiana (PA)

#92: Levi Brown, QB, Troy

#123: Colin Peek, TE, Alabama

#195: Boris Lee, ILB, Troy

#233: Cody Grimm, SS, Virginia Tech

OR:

#26: Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama

#58: Linval Joseph, NT, East Carolina

#88: Andre Roberts, WR, The Citadel

#89: Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, CB/FS, Indiana (PA)

#123: Mike Kafka, QB, Northwestern

#195: Boris Lee, ILB, Troy

#233: Cody Grimm, SS, Virginia Tech

Which scenario do you like better? What scenario (with what players) do you think will happen? I am looking forward to reading your thoughts.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

2. If they get a good offer to trade down from #26 to pick up an extra 3rd round pick, I think there's a very good chance they will do it, because I beleive they would like to take a QB in round three, and having three picks in round three would allow them to address other needs and take a QB.

3. If they trade down, let's say for Cleveland's #38 and #92 picks, the players they would be hoping for at #38 would be any of the aforementioned players they were hoping for at #26, if that becomes the case, or one of the following players: LB Sean Lee, LB Ricky Sapp, LB Jerry Hughes, CB Devin McCourty, NT Terrence Cody.

Interesting you bring this up. Article this morning in PFT is about Tebow and teams possibly wanting to move up to the end of the 1st to get him. Cleveland was mentioned.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-cause-someone-to-take-a-chance-on-him-early/

 

[cardsfanmd]

So basically they like every player in the draft

If I had to pick from those I would take the Sean Lee-Cody Grimm draft.

 

[Cardiac]

Interesting you bring this up. Article this morning in PFT is about Tebow and teams possibly wanting to move up to the end of the 1st to get him. Cleveland was mentioned.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-cause-someone-to-take-a-chance-on-him-early/

IIRC Holgrem doesn't "like" Tebow as a QB.

I get the gist of the article but I truly wonder how many GM's would give up extra picks to draft Tebow. If he is available when it's your turn and you think you could make him great then go for it.

I guess if it could happen for McCoy or Clausen then it could happen for Tebow. I actually hope a lot of teams are trying to get into the 1st round for these guys.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

IIRC Holgrem doesn't "like" Tebow as a QB.

I get the gist of the article but I truly wonder how many GM's would give up extra picks to draft Tebow. If he is available when it's your turn and you think you could make him great then go for it.

I guess if it could happen for McCoy or Clausen then it could happen for Tebow. I actually hope a lot of teams are trying to get into the 1st round for these guys.

I think that was Clausen that Holmgrem was talking about. He said he'll picked early but not by Cleveland. I thought it was strange for a guy to come out and say they didn't like a particular player. They usually just say the right things.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

If McClain gets by the Giants, I'm all for making the trade up to get him. If he's gone then i'd be for trading back because i think you probably take the 25-50 rated players and there's not a whole lot of difference, grade-wise, between them. I think AOA will be long gone by #88 and i cna see one of those QB's being picked by the Cards but the 3rd, to me, seems high for them. A couple of those guys may even be around in round 6. The only 2 that will for sure be gone before 6 are Jarret Brown and Snead.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

IMO... any mock predicated on Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama, reaching #26 is simply delusional.

 

[Cardiac]

IMO... any mock predicated on Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama, reaching #26 is simply delusional.

Same was said about Beanie last year. He has a small flag with chrones and his 40 time was not fantastic and he plays a position that has a tendency to slide and there are a lot of OT's and DT's and DE's and Pass rushers available in this draft that could help facilitate said slide and QB's can always cause ripple effects and there are some GREAT safetys this year and this is the longest run on sentence ever.


Chances of McClain being there at 26 are lousy to impossible.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Same was said about Beanie last year. He has a small flag with chrones and his 40 time was not fantastic and he plays a position that has a tendency to slide and there are a lot of OT's and DT's and DE's and Pass rushers available in this draft that could help facilitate said slide and QB's can always cause ripple effects and there are some GREAT safetys this year and this is the longest run on sentence ever.


Chances of McClain being there at 26 are lousy to impossible.

 

[WildBB]

1. They will not trade up from the #26 spot. They will wait in hopes that one of the following players is available at #26:

LB Rolando McClain
QB Jimmy Clausen
LB Brandon Graham
LB Will Weatherspoon
LB Jason Pierre-Paul
LB Sergio Kindle
NT Dan Williams
CB/S Earl Thomas
CB Kyle Wilson - fify
T Anthony Davis
WR Golden Tate

2. If they get a good offer to trade down from #26 to pick up an extra 3rd round pick, I think there's a very good chance they will do it, because I beleive they would like to take a QB in round three, and having three picks in round three would allow them to address other needs and take a QB.

3. If they trade down, let's say for Cleveland's #38 and #92 picks, the players they would be hoping for at #38 would be any of the aforementioned players they were hoping for at #26, if that becomes the case, or one of the following players:

LB Sean Lee
LB Ricky Sapp
LB Jerry Hughes
CB Devin McCourty
NT Terrence Cody.

Good call Mitch, unless one of their targets is there , they'll try to pick up that extra third and move down a bit.

Despite what the board thinks, no way does Cody go at #26.

 

[Cards Czar]

Good call Mitch, unless one of their targets is there , they'll try to pick up that extra third and move down a bit.

Despite what the board thinks, no way does Cody go at #26.

Really? Maylock was saying on the NFL Network do be suprised if SD takes Cody at #28. AlSo what is the difference between the 26th and 28th?/ Not much. The trade Mitch has is so lopsided against us its not funny. Try using the draft pick chart and put those numbers together. We get screwed.

 

[az jam]

Nice work Mitch, putting this together was lot's of work. There are teams that are going to trade up into the late first round for Cody McCoy Texas QB so its very possible the Cards #26 pick could be in play. I like your draft except would replace DT Linval Joseph with DT Cam Thomas. I just think he is a more natural NT but that is just my opinion.
I really like your picks of LB Sean Lee, QB Levi Brown, WR Roberts & TE Peeks. This would be an excellent draft.

 

[Monty]

Il take the second scenario. Though unlikely to happen i like the great value and mixture of ready talent and great promise in the McClain to Cody Grimm scenario.

 

[WildBB]

Really? Maylock was saying on the NFL Network do be suprised if SD takes Cody at #28. AlSo what is the difference between the 26th and 28th?/ Not much. The trade Mitch has is so lopsided against us its not funny. Try using the draft pick chart and put those numbers together. We get screwed.

The Chargers need a RB. I don't think they'll wait till the 2nd to take their guy. He'll be starting soon mtl. Cody should be a 2nd rounder. Anyone else is reaching in the 1st. IMO. Your right 26 isn't rediculous for him, it's just rediculous when there are tip top athlets at key positions available. Again JMHO. Space eaters contrary to this boards popular opinion can be had IN THIS DRAFT.

And I'[m not endorsing Mitch's perameters, just the fact we ARE looking at that extra 3rd as a real posibility to move down a few slots and still land a REAL target player if we're not satisfied enough with the prospects left to us. Probably won't be the case though....happens every year, someone they weren't expecting to be there.

 

[Monty]

The Chargers need a RB. I don't think they'll wait till the 2nd to take their guy. He'll be starting soon mtl. Cody should be a 2nd rounder. Anyone else is reaching in the 1st. IMO. Your right 26 isn't rediculous for him, it's just rediculous when there are tip top athlets at key positions available. Again JMHO. Space eaters contrary to this boards popular opinion can be had IN THIS DRAFT throughout.

And I'[m not endorsing Mitch's perameters, just the fact we ARE looking at that extra 3rd as a real posibility to move down a few slots and still land a REAL target player if we're not satisfied enough with the prospects left to us. Probably won't be the case though....happens every year, someone they weren't expecting to be there.

Thats what im hoping for though it is difficult to predict who that is. At the moment im hoping that its McClain first and Weatherspoon second.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Same was said about Beanie last year.

Chances of McClain being there at 26 are lousy to impossible.

But still a chance. Refer to your first sentence.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Same was said about Beanie last year. He has a small flag with chrones and his 40 time was not fantastic and he plays a position that has a tendency to slide and there are a lot of OT's and DT's and DE's and Pass rushers available in this draft that could help facilitate said slide and QB's can always cause ripple effects and there are some GREAT safetys this year and this is the longest run on sentence ever.


Chances of McClain being there at 26 are lousy to impossible.

Keep in mind, that 2 RBs went off the board before Beanie. Who are the two ILB's that might be selected before McClain?

 

[Cardiac]

But still a chance. Refer to your first sentence.

Yep, that's why I said lousy to impossible.

I realize almost everyone states that chrones won't hurt his stock because he has never missed a game. The thing is that his workout was cut short due chrones. Am I over reacting about that?

So in a very deep draft is it possible that teams will go with a DE instead of a ILB? Can all the teams that have a need for an ILB justify another player because of his chrones until he gets to us?

It is not a deep draft for ILB's according to most experts.
What teams need a MLB or a 3-4 ILB?

When did Ray Lewis get drafted?

 

[kerouac9]

Cards draft plan:

PRESSING, IMMEDIATE NEEDS: WILB, Nose Tackle, Punt/Kick Returner
LEGITIMATE DEPTH CONCERNS: Tight End, Cornerback, Offensive Tackle, SILB, SOLB
LONG-TERM DEVELOPMENT: Quarterback, Offensive Guard, Offensive Center, Wide Receiver.

I'm guessing you'll see the immediate needs addressed first (as we've seen the last three seasons), and then matching the other two areas with value available on the board.

This team is not using a pick in the first three rounds on a wide receiver that can't return punts and kicks. Ben Patrick is our 4th WR now. And we'll likely bring another two or three guys to camp to compete with him and Becht/Spach.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

. The thing is that his workout was cut short due chrones. Am I over reacting about that?

Not by me. If I was a GM I would be doing some real serious research on the subject.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Not by me. If I was a GM I would be doing some real serious research on the subject.

There are 32 GMs who have turned this issue over to their medical staff. And, I'll venture, that they will say that with proper diet this a manageable problem.

From what I've read, he has never missed a game because of this medical issue.

As mentioned before, there are several pro athletes who've had long careers with this problem, including hockey players who have to go "all out" every two days, or so. 82 games, playoffs, and practices in between.

 

[Cardiac]

I think that was Clausen that Holmgrem was talking about. He said he'll picked early but not by Cleveland. I thought it was strange for a guy to come out and say they didn't like a particular player. They usually just say the right things.

Found the comments from Holgrem he made about Tebow at Combine.

If you read between the lines it wasn't a glowing opinion of his QBing skills.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/09000d5d8169cda4/Holmgren-combine-press-conference

 

[Buckybird]

I think the draft plan might changed slightly with Porters legal problems!!! Dammit!!! OLB know isn't off limits @ #26.

 

[Monty]

I think the draft plan might changed slightly with Porters legal problems!!! Dammit!!! OLB know isn't off limits @ #26.

You might be a little over-dramatic here mate, i think we should wait and see if the Cards or the NFL decide to punish Porter first. Likelihood is neither will give Porter a significant enough punishment for us to have to worry about him not playing for us.

 

[Buckybird]

You might be a little over-dramatic here mate, i think we should wait and see if the Cards or the NFL decide to punish Porter first. Likelihood is neither will give Porter a significant enough punishment for us to have to worry about him not playing for us.

He will probably get at least a 3 game suspension.