Fitzgerald: Go back and watch the first 8 games of the season.

[Lomax to Green 84]

and instead of being paid as the best reciever in all of football, he should have been paid as the 20th best reciever at best. Sure the guy ended up with great numbers (100 catches 1400 yards and 10 touchdowns) but lets not forget that 9 of those touchdowns happened in the last 8 games and only one occurred during those critical first 8 games of the season when his production was so desperately needed.

Game #1-vs. San Francisco-Inexplicably dives for a first down when he had room to get a huge chunk of yards and possibly put the game away.

Game #2-No real impact in win over Seattle.

Game #3-No impact in close loss to Baltimore. Key fumble likely costs Cards a touchdown

Game #4-No impact in win over Pittsburgh. It was an awesome defensive performance that won that game. Another key fumble that cost the team a chance at a touchdown

Game #5-As usual he plays good against St. Louis . His one great game in the first 8.

Game #6-Non existent against Carolina in a game the Cards still should have won even with Rattay at QB.

Game #7-Inexplicably steps out of bounds on a play that would have gone for 80 yards and a touchdown.

Game #8-Boldin comes back, playing with one good hip and scores 2 touchdowns to Fitzgerald's zero.

Resign him if he is willing to take a contract that will help the team. Otherwise, its time to move one. The Cards are a whopping 24-40 during Fitzgerald's tenure in Arizona. Its not like we are losing a guy who has helped take us to the promised land.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

20th best receiver? How can you start a thread with that line, and then expect to be taken seriously?

Oh, and half way through the season, we were still knee deep in a playoff chase, and he was playing his best football.

If you can look at Fitzgerald career, and say that he should be paid like the 20th best receiver AT BEST, then I don't value your opinion in evaluating talent.

 

[Duckjake]

The Cards are a whopping 24-40 during Fitzgerald's tenure in Arizona. Its not like we are losing a guy who has helped take us to the promised land.

To be fair the Cards have that same winning percentage during everybody's tenure in Arizona.

Also the Cards were 32nd in points scored the year before Larry was drafted. Last year they were 7th.

 

[Mulli]

Might take two and a half years for Fitz's hypothetical replacement to get 100 catches, 1400 yards, and 10 touchdowns.

 

[joeshmo]

The beginning of the fans trying to find holes in a players game to justify a player maybe or maybe not leaving or to lower their status during a contract negotiation.

Same thing happened with Boldin during his contract negotiation and was about to miss the start of training camp. People were talking about his 2 knee injuries, him not helping the teams winning percentage and so on(including myself).

Its just frustration talking. Makes people not think straight.

 

[Mulli]

Winning percentage? We should get rid of Warner and Leinart since they winning percentages aren't high enough.

 

[joeshmo]

Resign him if he is willing to take a contract that will help the team. Otherwise, its time to move one. The Cards are a whopping 24-40 during Fitzgerald's tenure in Arizona. Its not like we are losing a guy who has helped take us to the promised land.

Wow, that is some hardcore faulty logic.

What is our Record with Boldin, Wilson, Dansby, Dockett, and so on.

In fact last year we had a better record when Wilson went down to injury then when he was healthy. Wilson must be a bum.

To say that Fitz did nothing in those games would be wrong. 1st, we had a not so good Matt throwing the ball and some sort of weird QB rotation. Plus just becuase a WR doesnt get 10 catches a game doesnt mean he isnt taking away pressure or taking coverage his direction helping other WR's get open.

 

[Linderbee]

Winning percentage? We should get rid of Warner and Leinart since they winning percentages aren't high enough.

We should just get rid of everyone & start over. Clean slate.

 

[Lomax to Green 84]

I tend to shoot from the hip on many topics, but haven't we all been saying the same thing about this team the last 4 years? Great recievers, should be ready to make the leap to the playoffs, almost there, one player away. Now we are in a real predicament. Sign a great player (the 20th best reciever comment was out of line) to an extension and find some relief for this season only to have to deal with our other bigtime reciever next year all playing for a head coach that wants to run the ball 60% of the time.

2 wide recievers that are very similar in talent, 2 wide recievers who want and deserve to be paid accordingly, a head coach that values pounding the ball, ball control, eating time off the clock, running 60 % of the time.

Something just does not add up here. How can we become the smashmouth team Whisenhunt so desperately wants us to become, when you have possibly 30 percent of your cap space tied up in 2 wide recievers? It just does not make any sense.

 

[DaisyCutter]

He certainly was non-existent in that game against Pittsburgh. It's hard to notice 10 catches for 120 yards. He only accounted for over 50% of our passing offense in that game.

Good points. In the first 8 games of the season, he had less than 95 yards receiving once.

 

[joeshmo]

I tend to shoot from the hip on many topics, but haven't we all been saying the same thing about this team the last 4 years? Great recievers, should be ready to make the leap to the playoffs, almost there, one player away. Now we are in a real predicament. Sign a great player (the 20th best reciever comment was out of line) to an extension and find some relief for this season only to have to deal with our other bigtime reciever next year all playing for a head coach that wants to run the ball 60% of the time.

2 wide recievers that are very similar in talent, 2 wide recievers who want and deserve to be paid accordingly, a head coach that values pounding the ball, ball control, eating time off the clock, running 60 % of the time.

Something just does not add up here. How can we become the smashmouth team Whisenhunt so desperately wants us to become, when you have possibly 30 percent of your cap space tied up in 2 wide recievers? It just does not make any sense.

I think that most people can agree with that, and I do as well. This should have been your thread starter.

 

[DaisyCutter]

People who keep saying that Anquan Boldin and Larry Fitzgerald are of similar talent haven't been paying much attention lately. Larry Fitzgerald has a consistent impact in nearly every game he plays. Anquan Boldin has a couple good runs a season that everyone remembers, but then has a game like he did against Washington (8 rec., 29 yards, 3.9 YPC[!!!!]) that everyone forgets. Anquan Boldin was held under 60 yards receiving in 6 of the 12 games he appeared in last season.

Happened to Fitz twice.

 

[cardsfanmd]

As much as Fitz fans dont want to admit it, had Boldin not been hurt, Q would have had the huge stats this year. He broke his hip while destroying the Ravens singlehandedly and had been far better than Fitz up until that point. IMO, Kurt Warner can target in on almost anyone and give them a great stat line.

I am not saying Fitz isn't great, but this whole situation is ridiculous.

 

[jstadvl]

There are only two scenarios, I can see, that we don't figure out a way to do his contract.
1-there is someone, coming out of college, that will have an immediate impact. Making Fitz's leaving, almost, unnoticed. ( on this board? HA!)
2-Someone in FA that can do , wht he does, for less $? Anyone?
Figure it out, pay the guy.

 

[cardsfanmd]

People who keep saying that Anquan Boldin and Larry Fitzgerald are of similar talent haven't been paying much attention lately. Larry Fitzgerald has a consistent impact in nearly every game he plays. Anquan Boldin has a couple good runs a season that everyone remembers, but then has a game like he did against Washington (8 rec., 29 yards, 3.9 YPC[!!!!]) that everyone forgets. Anquan Boldin was held under 60 yards receiving in 6 of the 12 games he appeared in last season.

Happened to Fitz twice.

He was playing with a broken hip!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fitz dives out of bounds when there is a chance of being hit. When Fitz plays hurt like that we can talk.

 

[jstadvl]

BTW, comparing any of our WR';s to each other is moot. They all do very different things in very special ways.

 

[DaisyCutter]

He was playing with a broken hip!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fitz dives out of bounds when there is a chance of being hit. When Fitz plays hurt like that we can talk.

Fitz played the last quarter of the season with a severe hamstring injury that was leaving him limping back to the huddle every play.

Maybe if Anquan was a little smarter with how he used his body (like Fitz is), he would be able to help the team 16 games a season instead of 12, and be effective in all of them.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Fitz played the last quarter of the season with a severe hamstring injury that was leaving him limping back to the huddle every play.

Maybe if Anquan was a little smarter with how he used his body (like Fitz is), he would be able to help the team 16 games a season instead of 12, and be effective in all of them.

 

[Jetstream Green]

well

I think Boldin played really well considering his hip and then his toe where injured. Hope Fitz can stay a Cardinal but if the game is on the line and I need a WR to score a TD from 35+ yards out and the ball is not thrown in the endzone...I pick Q because Fitz sure is not going to get much yards after the catch IMO. The valid point that this thread points out is that is it possible for the Cardinals to pay Fitz so much money when we already have Boldin? I'm all for Fitz getting money that puts him in the top five WR range but number 1 by extremes...NO WAY.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I think Boldin played really well considering his hip and then his toe where injured. Hope Fitz can stay a Cardinal but if the game is on the line and I need a WR to score a TD from 35+ yards out and the ball is not thrown in the endzone...I pick Q because Fitz sure is not going to get much yards after the catch IMO. The valid point that this thread points out is that is it possible for the Cardinals to pay Fitz so much money when we already have Boldin? I'm all for Fitz getting money that puts him in the top five WR range but number 1 by extremes...NO WAY.

You can throw it from the 45 yards out, throw the ball in the end zone, and Fitz can still go get it.

 

[cardsfanmd]

Fitz played the last quarter of the season with a severe hamstring injury that was leaving him limping back to the huddle every play.

Maybe if Anquan was a little smarter with how he used his body (like Fitz is), he would be able to help the team 16 games a season instead of 12, and be effective in all of them.

Give me an effn break!!!!!!!!! What makes Boldin great is that he is the opposite of Fitz!!

The first post in this thread is proof that Larry was far from productive in every game this year.

If Anquan played more like Fitz he would have ran out of bounds instead of running over Dawan Landry for that TD in B'more. We would have never even been in that game without Q. All Fitz did that day was fumble in the red courtesy of one of the weakest strip attempts ever!!!!

I like Fitz, but the last thing on earth that we as Cardinals should want is for Q to start playing like him.

Answer me this, what do you think would have happened had Q caught that pass against Tampa where Larry ran out of bounds for no reason???



correct response: TD 81

 

[Jetstream Green]

BTW, I do not think Fitz's injuries where anywhere close to what Boldin had. The Baltimore game says all a lot about what Boldin is.

 

[Lomax to Green 84]

You can throw it from the 45 yards out, throw the ball in the end zone, and Fitz can still go get it.

Yeah, but so can Lee Evans, Steve Smith, Torry Holt, Deon Branch, Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, and on and on and on and not one of these guys is about to become the highest paid non-quarterback in the NFL. I'd take a super speedster like Lee Evans over Fitzerald any day of the week. Evans would be a much better fit with our team than Fitz.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Fitz has the hands of Chris Carter to be sure but his run after the catch ability is worse than Rob Moore

 

[joeshmo]

Maybe if Anquan was a little smarter with how he used his body (like Fitz is), he would be able to help the team 16 games a season instead of 12, and be effective in all of them.

Or not Wrestle other football players to the ground during a practice that your Hip kept you out off in the first place.

Fitz also played his whole rookie season on a high ankle sprain. Was limping all season long.