You gotta give it up for Nash

[jasonC]

He is almost 38 years old and still having great games like 25 points and 9 assists. Other than Marcin Gortat and the rookie Morris he is the only Sun playing worth a damn. He deserves a hell of a lot more than this. If he was traded for Rondo (which some people think is a good idea) this Suns team would suck even worse. Steve is a better basketball player than Rondo right now even at his advanced age, I know the future is what everyone is worried about when talking that trade but still just wanted to state that fact. I wouldnt care too much if he was traded because he needs to be on a team where there are at least a few players who can get things done not with people like Channing Frye and Shannon Brown. I just have a lot of respect for the man, its damn impressive what he is doing even if his team sucks big time.

 

[Mainstreet]

Welcome aboard jasonC. There is no doubt Steve Nash is pure class.

 

[jasonC]

Thanks, just venting some frustration. I just don't understand beating Portland by 20 and then losing to such powerhouse teams as Cleveland and New Jersey back to back, its beyond frustrating.

 

[BC867]

Thanks, just venting some frustration. I just don't understand beating Portland by 20 and then losing to such powerhouse teams as Cleveland and New Jersey back to back, its beyond frustrating.

The health and stamina of Nash and Hill from game to game is the key. Gortat's youth and strength can't do it alone.

Realistically, they can't be worse than . . . they can't be almost as good as . . . they have to be better than our opponent in more than half of the games.

And even if they could be, all season long, three good NBA players isn't going to beat four or five good NBA players.

That is expecting too much from a team whose owner has ruined it for the team and its fans.

The banker from Tucson needs to divest himself and go back home.

 

[Cheesebeef]

LOVE Steve Nash. HATE watching him play for Sarver and the crappy ass Suns team.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Free Steve!

 

[mojorizen7]

He is almost 38 years old and still having great games like 25 points and 9 assists. Other than Marcin Gortat and the rookie Morris he is the only Sun playing worth a damn. He deserves a hell of a lot more than this.

Yes he does.

Steve is a better basketball player than Rondo right now even at his advanced age

Nope. I strongly disagree. Nash is better than Rondo on a team that runs Nashball. Rondo is better than Nash on any other team that plays inside out offense with a true bigman that demands the ball....which unless you've got a MJ or a Kobe....is the type of offense teams win titles with

I know the future is what everyone is worried about when talking that trade but still just wanted to state that fact. I wouldnt care too much if he was traded because he needs to be on a team where there are at least a few players who can get things done not with people like Channing Frye and Shannon Brown. I just have a lot of respect for the man, its damn impressive what he is doing even if his team sucks big time.

Agree....and welcome to the Suns board. Hopefully there's a light at the end of this funnel....tunnel....whatever.

 

[jasonC]

Nope. I strongly disagree. Nash is better than Rondo on a team that runs Nashball. Rondo is better than Nash on any other team that plays inside out offense with a true bigman that demands the ball....which unless you've got a MJ or a Kobe....is the type of offense teams win titles with

That's fine we will agree to disagree but I'm just saying trade Nash for Rondo straight up and see how much better this team gets. I don't think you will see any improvement. Nash averages 10 assists with the likes of Gortat, Frye and Dudley while Rondo gets his 10 with Garnett, Pierce, and Ray Allen (plus it takes him 37 mins. a game to do it while Nash does it in 30). Nash is a better shooter from anywhere on the court-3 point land, FG% and especially Free Throws, Rondo is horrendous in that area. Rondo is a much better defender and rebounder and he is younger but that's about all I can come up for him in the plus column when comparing him to Steve.

 

[jagu]

I'll miss Steve Nash..

 

[BC867]

I'll miss Steve Nash..

What would APS do with all those Steve-Nash-hitting-on-a-wife-while-her-husband-makes-a-fool-of-himself commercials if he left town?

 

[mojorizen7]

That's fine we will agree to disagree but I'm just saying trade Nash for Rondo straight up and see how much better this team gets. I don't think you will see any improvement.

Oh i agree with you there,with the way this team is constructed,if Rondo were to be plugged into this roster this team would struggle to score 50 points/gm. LOL. Thats the thing though,so many of these players the Suns have plugged in here over the years can't function without being spoonfed by the awesomeness that is Steve Nash....and only Nash can be like Nash. Its no mystery why all of the backup PG's have come in here and struggled....some of them weren't very good sure,but they cant run Nashball and do the things that only Nash can do ya know?

Nash averages 10 assists with the likes of Gortat, Frye and Dudley while Rondo gets his 10 with Garnett, Pierce, and Ray Allen (plus it takes him 37 mins. a game to do it while Nash does it in 30). Nash is a better shooter from anywhere on the court-3 point land, FG% and especially Free Throws, Rondo is horrendous in that area. Rondo is a much better defender and rebounder and he is younger but that's about all I can come up for him in the plus column when comparing him to Steve.

I cant argue with most of that....lets face it,Nash and Rondo are complete opposites in terms of skillsets,attitude,style,etc...but they both distribute the ball very well and are both unselfish with the ball. I happen to value Rondo's defensive skills over Nash's shooting(on a team thats designed to compliment those skills).

Ideally you want to surround Nash with slashers and shooters that don't demand the ball. That's fine and its extremely effective when the shots are falling, but you always wind up with a jump-shooting basketball team and IMO thats not ideal come playoff time. I also dont like when teams easily get into their offense due to Nash's lack of defensive skills.

I just prefer a team thats stout defensively in 2 areas....at the point of attack(your PG or 2guard) and at the rim obviously(PF or center). You can fill in the gaps from there with shooters. A team with Rondo at the point must have a very strong post up guy though,which isn't an easy thing to find.

JMO as always....and as always it revolves around a change in basketball culture here

 

[Superbone]

I posted this in another thread but it's probably more appropriate here:

Nash is the best oldest point guard of all time. It's pretty amazing how well he's playing at 38 (next month). I can see him still being very effective for another two years.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I posted this in another thread but it's probably more appropriate here:

Nash is the best oldest point guard of all time. It's pretty amazing how well he's playing at 38 (next month). I can see him still being very effective for another two years.

He is #7 in fg% in the league. There is only one other guard in the top 20 and that is Mario Chalmers, who gets plenty of space because of his teammates. Nash does it with precious little on the court to take the defensive pressure off of him.

 

[dodie53]

freedom!!!

 

[jagu]

Steve Nash is a legend, enjoy him while you can...