Under what circumstance would Bidwill sell team

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I met him once at Sun Devil Stadium and he actually talked to me for several minutes. I truly felt like he wants to win. I didn't think it was an act. Apparently, he just has no clue how to do so. He truly thought Keim could do it. Then, he really thought he had it with Keim and KK. And, he thought he had it with Monti and Gannon and he's back to square one.

But I think a lot of his failure is on him and not just picking the wrong employees. It's the most conservative management of the cap in the NFL. Sure, unlike his old man he does lay out big money for stars. But when he does so there is always a follow up of "well, we need to hold a lot of cap space now". Which leads to things like sitting on a bunch of dough even though just about any other franchise would've looked at our WR and oline going into this season and saying "we got to upgrade"
He desperately wants to redeem the family name and win a Super Bowl. Making the Bidwill name not a four letter word is what he thinks is his legacy. That’s with the Cardinals and other business ventures around town.

But like you said he just doesn’t have the ability to do so. Has a dofficult personality which makes him a poor leader and gravitates more towards those who kiss his ass vs talent.

The old man picked who he thought was his most accomplished kid to run the team which probably was/is true. But that was the last of many, many mistakes that Bill Sr made prior to his death. In retrospect handing it off to one of the other kids who would’ve wanted to stay away from the day-to-day of the football ops and let the professionals run the show would’ve been the right call.
 

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The NFL likes Bidwill. They don't care that the Cardinals have a good season once a decade. The way he hustled to set up the Rams for the playoffs last year, the way he keeps getting Super Bowls.... And they really don't care about Cards fans fee-fees.

He is going nowhere.

Yeah I said flying out the Rams was being a cuck and people got sad. The Packers are never hosting the Bears because they aren't kiss ass cucks
 

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I met him once at Sun Devil Stadium and he actually talked to me for several minutes. I truly felt like he wants to win. I didn't think it was an act. Apparently, he just has no clue how to do so. He truly thought Keim could do it. Then, he really thought he had it with Keim and KK. And, he thought he had it with Monti and Gannon and he's back to square one.

But I think a lot of his failure is on him and not just picking the wrong employees. It's the most conservative management of the cap in the NFL. Sure, unlike his old man he does lay out big money for stars. But when he does so there is always a follow up of "well, we need to hold a lot of cap space now". Which leads to things like sitting on a bunch of dough even though just about any other franchise would've looked at our WR and oline going into this season and saying "we got to upgrade"
On your second point that’s why I think Ishbia will win before Bidwill. Ishbia for all his many faults will never be afraid to go all in.

Bidwill has a strange fear of looking dumb. But doesn’t of course realize he’s a total laughingstock.
 

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On your second point that’s why I think Ishbia will win before Bidwill. Ishbia for all his many faults will never be afraid to go all in.

Bidwill has a strange fear of looking dumb. But doesn’t of course realize he’s a total laughingstock.

Ishiba dgaf about the money, just the results. It's night and day
 

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Can you imagine the Eagles flying in Dallas and hosting them so they can win in your stadium or vice versa.

Micheal is a total cuck and Goodell loves it
 

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Seriously?

Why support this creepy loser?
The only thing we can do is quit supporting the team even if we love Big Red.

Quit buying tickets.

Quit watching games on TV.

Quit engaging in team-controlled broadcast and media properties.

Quit buying team gear.

Quit complaining about the lack of success.

Quit talking about him.

Quit honoring him with unearned civic honors.

Just quit. Completely.

This isn't about hurting MJB's pocketbook. He's still going to pad his bank account thru league revenue streams.

Send a message to the league.

He's already embarrassed the NFL with his decades of incompetence. Add fuel to the fire.

Just quit.
 
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Let's revisit this....


"You're one of two people," the former ally said. "Either an enemy of Michael Bidwill or a future enemy of Michael Bidwill."

There is no planet that small man Micheal ever gives up any power because he's the ultimate angry short dude. This is his power
 

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If a stadium half full of fans of the other team isnt enough to make his fellow owners realize that he is a drag on their revenue and spoiling a very large market then nothing will drive them to force him to sell. Only other option would be a scandal but their already was the lawsuit by former executive alleging violation of league rules regarding contacting suspended Keim as well as a coach being fired for misconduct that was actually committed by Keim.
 

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Owning the Cardinals is the only thing that makes Bidwill relevant. His failures as an owner only matter within NFL circles. When he's schmoozing with Katie Hobbs it just matters that he's an NFL owner.

Any politician on either side. The belief doesn't matter, the attention does
 

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You have to understand the Bidwill mentality. I figured it out while Big Red was still in St. Louis. Having an NFL franchise is to Bidwill like owning a circus. The regular season games are like a spectacle, event or circus you bring your family out to see. You want to see the dog faced boy, the and the bearded woman. The ticket buyer doesnt root for the lions, the jugglers or the trapeeze artists. You watch and enjoy the show. It is about that game only. There is no promise or plans for follow up showings in post season. Enjoy the afternoon and go back to work Monday. It does not matter who wins or loses to Bidwill as long as people are buying tickets. Bidwill is the master of ceremonies. If more people in St. Louisd had accepted that reality the team would still be there. What is post season? A couple more times to see the circus.
 
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This is accurate. If MB and the other siblings just wanted to just be your normal run-of-the-mill billionaires they’d have sold the team already. Other than the whacky brother down in Key West the rest of them love walking into Paradise Valley CC or Steak 44 and people knowing they own the Cardinals. They lose that and they’re just another rich guy/gal in town.

MB specifically is really ambitious although he’s not that smart and people don’t like him so isn’t getting done the legacy projects that he wants. What he fails to realize of course is that people don’t like to work with losers and his plans are often foiled because of the bumbling football team he runs.
Is that the guy who got assaulted by his wife (allegedly) then the story disappeared?
 

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The only thing we can do is quit supporting the team even if we love Big Red.

Quit buying tickets.

Quit watching games on TV.

Quit engaging in team-controlled broadcast and media properties.

Quit buying team gear.

Quit complaining about the lack of success.

Quit talking about him.

Quit honoring him with unearned civic honors.

Just quit. Completely.

This isn't about hurting MJB's pocketbook. He's still going to pad his bank account thru league revenue streams.

Send a message to the league.

He's already embarrassed the NFL with his decades of incompetence. Add fuel to the fire.

Just quit.
Been on board since day one. Not quitting. It wouldn't matter anyway. If I quit, no one in the Cards org would even blink an eye. Just a useless "boycott," like most.
 

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Mike is truly motivated by 2 things:

1. Sponsors and Corporate Buyers (boxes, Casa Rojas, etc)

I know there are a couple of those on this board -- if you cancel, you tell the exec that calls and begs you to renew that unless there are fundamental changes made in the way the football product is produced -- you are out. If enough to it, they will listen.

2. Other NFL owners. I got nothin here, but if the team doesnt pull its weight in terms of contributing to league revenue, then it degrades his standing with fellow owners. That matters to him.
 

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