The Ayton Plan

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Uh those two are inconsistent with one and other unless they’re measuring “fastest to totals” in some metric other than games. Age? No, because he’s younger than both shaq and chuck ay that point.
Yeah...I had to re-read the article. Says Ayton is the second fastest Phoenix Suns player ever to record 3,000 career points and 2,000 career rebounds. The article mentioned Shaq and Chuck did it faster. I am assuming they are not counting Shaq and Chuck even though there were mentioned only because maybe they didn't do it while in a Suns uniform?? I will have to look it up.

 
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I said that wrong. Ayton is the second fastest player ever to record 3,000 career points and 2,000 career rebounds while playing for the Suns. Only two other players WHO ONCE PLAYED for the Suns did it faster. Charles and Shaq did it in fewer games but they did not play for the Suns WHEN they did it.
So who was the guy that did it faster while playing for the suns?
 

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So who was the guy that did it faster while playing for the suns?
I am trying to find out. Now that I re-read the article, I noticed that was never mentioned. Now I want to know too.

I would guess Amare or Alvan. Probably Alvan.
Definitely not Alvan. Shawn Marion did it in 213 games, while Alvan Adams needed 230 games. My guess is also Amare but I am trying to replicate what he did on another site since I am not subscribing to what he used.
 
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Could be Connie Hawkins. Hawk had 2120 rebounds in his first 228 games with the Suns. He easily made the points. That would put Hawk making it in about 213 games just based on his averages that year.
 
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Could be Connie Hawkins. Hawk had 2120 rebounds in his first 228 games with the Suns. He easily made the points. That would put Hawk making it in about 213 games just based on his averages that year.
I was going to say Amare, Hawkins or Davis just throwing some names out there.
 

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I’m watching the knicks and warriors. I’m watching Draymond not even attempt to looks at the rim. We know he’s not looking for his shot 90 percent of the time and likes to make the smart pass.

I’m wondering if the suns are trying to make ayton our draymond, it’s more suited to aytons lack of skill set.
 

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I would guess Amare or Alvan. Probably Alvan.

Everybody loves to compare Ayton to Amare but Amare was flat out pathetic on defense and the boards. For all his size strength and athleticism he never even averaged double digits once in his career in rebounds.
 

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I’m watching the knicks and warriors. I’m watching Draymond not even attempt to looks at the rim. We know he’s not looking for his shot 90 percent of the time and likes to make the smart pass.

I’m wondering if the suns are trying to make ayton our draymond, it’s more suited to aytons lack of skill set.

Huh

Ayton plays nothing like Draymond and we def lean on Ayton when we need to offensively it’s just not every night. You’ll never GS just feed Draymond the way we did tonight
 

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Everybody loves to compare Ayton to Amare but Amare was flat out pathetic on defense and the boards. For all his size strength and athleticism he never even averaged double digits once in his career in rebounds.

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Size and strength? He was an undersized center, even Lou Amundson was taller in person if you went to games.
 

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Huh

Size and strength? He was an undersized center, even Lou Amundson was taller in person if you went to games.

Right cause height determines how strong and athletic you are. He was 6’10 let’s not act like he was a little guy
 

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Huh

Size and strength? He was an undersized center, even Lou Amundson was taller in person if you went to games.
Who was a center? Amare never was a center. He was a PF asked to play center because they played small ball so often. Ayton is no more a PF than Amare was a center. However, when it came to playing on the block against other PFs Amare could hold his own. He was no weakling. Night in and night out he abused most opposing defenders. He was a beast.

No question Ayton is the better defender and rebounder but he is not as athletic as Amare. He isn't as strong either. That doesn't mean Ayton IS NOT athletic but he doesn't play above the rim like Amare did. That's why everyone jumps out of their seat with Ayton puts it down. Most of the time he puts it up.

Everybody loves to compare Ayton to Amare but Amare was flat out pathetic on defense and the boards. For all his size strength and athleticism he never even averaged double digits once in his career in rebounds.
Who is comparing them? I don't see many people doing that unless they are talking about relative draft position. One was a PF and the other a center. Yes they both played in the FC but two different players. Also, pathetic on the boards? He averaged almost 9 rebounds per game when he played here? Since when is 9 rebounds per game pathetic? That would have put him somewhere between 11 to 15 most years when he was at his peak here. In today's NBA he would be #11. Then again, he was often matched up against taller centers when playing small ball which put him at a huge disadvantage. Had he played less at center I bet he would of averaged at least two more which would have made him easily top 10 during his time here.
 
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Everybody loves to compare Ayton to Amare but Amare was flat out pathetic on defense and the boards. For all his size strength and athleticism he never even averaged double digits once in his career in rebounds.
True. But he also played beside a high volume rebounder in Marion. Ayton has zero competition for rebounds. On the defense you’re right, zero comparison.
 

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