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You ready for the Grayson Allen era?
Who sits for him? Lee? Shamet? Payne? Washington? I’m actually liking what they all bring to the table enough to think allennisnt a big enough upgrade over them (Washington is obviously deep bench with Paul’s return) to not pursue another power forward imo
 
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Who sits for him? Lee? Shamet? Payne? Washington? I’m actually liking what they all bring to the table enough to think allennisnt a big enough upgrade over them (Washington is obviously deep bench with Paul’s return) to not pursue another power forward imo

If the Suns invest time and a new contract in Duane Washington, I don't think they will be disappointed. He could be that explosive scorer and playmaker off the bench.
 

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Who sits for him? Lee? Shamet? Payne? Washington? I’m actually liking what they all bring to the table enough to think allennisnt a big enough upgrade over them (Washington is obviously deep bench with Paul’s return) to not pursue another power forward imo

Payne is balling right now.

I think Lee or Washington are the odd man out if Allen is the guy. I’ve actually really warmed up to the idea of getting Allen

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That sure would be nice
 

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Payne is balling right now.

I think Lee or Washington are the odd man out if Allen is the guy. I’ve actually really warmed up to the idea of getting Allen

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That sure would be nice
Lee is shooting 46% from 3 at present. And his stroke looks really nice. Don’t think he maintains that, but again, is allen a big improvement over Lee?

Look at their per 36 for this season. They’re basically the same guy.

 

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Lee is shooting 46% from 3 at present. And his stroke looks really nice. Don’t think he maintains that, but again, is allen a big improvement over Lee?

Look at their per 36 for this season. They’re basically the same guy.


Like you said can Lee maintain that though. If he can AND you can add Allen with Cam coming back then all of a sudden we got some shooters from deep. I like it
 
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Lee is shooting 46% from 3 at present. And his stroke looks really nice. Don’t think he maintains that, but again, is allen a big improvement over Lee?

Look at their per 36 for this season. They’re basically the same guy.


I like Lee's no fear mentality. Don't want to give it up. If the Suns acquired Allen, the players most threatened to lose playing time are Washington, Shamet and Okogie.
 

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You ready for the Grayson Allen era?
There would not be a three team deal if we were getting him.

Pretty sure the goal is to get a PF. Actually I am hoping the target is Bogdanovich again.
 

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Lee is shooting 46% from 3 at present. And his stroke looks really nice. Don’t think he maintains that, but again, is allen a big improvement over Lee?

Look at their per 36 for this season. They’re basically the same guy.

My answer is no.

I see no point in Grayson Allen at all. I think Shamet might even be better.
 
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There would not be a three team deal if we were getting him.

Pretty sure the goal is to get a PF. Actually I am hoping the target is Bogdanovich again.

Yeah. Crowder for Allen works straight up salary wise. If that were the trade it would have probably already been done.

Maybe the Suns are trying to get a first round pick included or get a third team involved.
 

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I like Lee's no fear mentality. Don't want to give it up. If the Suns acquired Allen, the players most threatened to lose playing time are Washington, Shamet and Okogie.
With Paul’s return those guys ain’t seeing a lot of court time anyway.
 
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With Paul’s return those guys ain’t seeing a lot of court time anyway.

The Suns need to prepare Washington for the playoffs so there is no replay of Aaron Holiday not getting minutes.
 

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Yeah I don’t see the point in adding another guard the caliber of our current backups. I would do Crowder/Saric for Barnes if Sac thinks Jae is a better fit at the 3 with Sabonis and Murray there.
 

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Suns, Bucks, Rockets is the rumor

I swear to God if James Jones gets Eric Gordon I’m going to laugh my ass off. Pulling the trigger 3 years too late.
 

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Deal is dead apparently it fell through

Suns: Eric Gordon
Bucks: Crowder
Rockets: Grayson Allen

I swear to God James Jones is pure trash as a GM. Gordon coming to Phoenix 3 years too late. He’s WASHED.

He’s so reactive and not proactive it’s not even funny. James Jones is the ultimate day late and dollar short GM.
 
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I remember the days before James Jones became the GM and they weren't so good.
 

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I remember the days before James Jones became the GM and they weren't so good.

You mean before Chris Paul wanted to play with Booker? No they weren’t great. James Jones didn’t build any of this.

And if your argument for him was well we sucked before that’s not a very good argument.
 

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Deal is dead apparently it fell through

Suns: Eric Gordon
Bucks: Crowder
Rockets: Grayson Allen

I swear to God James Jones is pure trash as a GM. Gordon coming to Phoenix 3 years too late. He’s WASHED.

He’s so reactive and not proactive it’s not even funny. James Jones is the ultimate day late and dollar short GM.
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Only really makes sense for Milwaukee.
 
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Only really makes sense for Milwaukee.

This would make sense but it is only speculation. The Suns tried to get Vanderbilt with Bojan in another rumored trade.

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You mean before Chris Paul wanted to play with Booker? No they weren’t great. James Jones didn’t build any of this.

And if your argument for him was well we sucked before that’s not a very good argument.

A GM should be evaluated on results.
 

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Suns, Bucks, Rockets is the rumor

I swear to God if James Jones gets Eric Gordon I’m going to laugh my ass off. Pulling the trigger 3 years too late.
It's probably for Kenyon Martin Jr then. Already heard suns were interested in him

I think he has more value to the suns then Gordon does, but if we have to take Gordon back with him that is probably ok if it only costs us shamet or Dario.
 
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