kerouac9
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Only QB, LG, and C can you really say we don’t have at least average NFL players. This should be an average offense.
Surprise, we’re in the middle third of the NFL.
Prepare for Drew Petzing departure
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Surprise, we’re in the middle third of the NFL.
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This is where I will credit Petzing. He has coached his offense to produce to the talent it has. I don't see anything amazing with what he is doing, but I expected worse from a 1st time OC, and he is creating time for himself to grow in the role.
One thing I am excited to watch is if anything changes when Kyler gets back. Some offenses can fake effectiveness by just limiting negative plays. A hint of this would be if Kyler comes back, and the offense looks mostly the same.
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The team as a whole has performed admirably - at times shockingly so - given that this season and roster are a planned demolition.
Not really. You've always been a DVOA truther and through 4 games we were 8th in DVOA on offense.
kerouac9
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DVOA right now isn't actually adjusted for opponents because there's not enough data on them. For now I like use DAVE which includes preseason projections. We're 27th by DAVE; I think we're somewhere in the middle.
It's quibbling, anyway. Our offense is obviously not the hollowed-out shell our defense is.
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This offense with a good LG and a speed RB to compliment Conner is much better than it is now which is not bad. This is with Dobbs still at QB. We are missing out on some big plays due to lack of speed coming out of the backfield. That is not a knock on Conner but a back with speed to compliment him would make us much more difficult to play against.
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If only we had Rondale Moore...
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Rondale Moore is not our answer for some speed at the RB position.
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He is a band-aid that is working though.
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It is nice they get him touches everywhere. I am talking about the backup to Conner having some speed and giving the D something else to be concerned with. Our current backups are plodders and are a big drop off from Conner. Would also help to keep Conner fresh.
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Just think how explosive this offense could be with a Devon Achane paired with Conner!
Chopper0080
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How many carries do you really need in this role though?
Chopper0080
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Define touches. in the three games Moore has received carries, he has 5, 7 and 6 combined carries and catches. Why do we think a combined 5 more will cause him to self destruct?
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Because he falls apart in every season, even with minimal use?
You seriously think he's a credible second back, instead of a gimmick player?
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guys: fans revolt when their team hires the coordinator from a 5-12 team. Let’s worry about this after a playoff run.
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He is a gimmick back. Not the answer for another back complimenting Conner and allowing him to stay fresh.
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Kliff came from a losing program (mostly). 50-50 Drew will get head coach position.
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You’re assuming there’s all these people around the league as dumb as Steve Keim.
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Like McVay was denied a job coz he came from RedSkins dumpyard?
(Not comparing Pretzing to McVay) but you get the analogy
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im not sure Petszig can show enough of a litmus in his 1st year as a coordinator to entice a GM to risk it all on him and his staff
Ain't that the middle of the top third?
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Jim Fassel somehow got the NY Giants HC job based off one ridiculous 3 game hit streak from Boomer Esiason back in Vince Tobin’s first year.
Guess the difference here is Fassel had been an OC previously before. That said, the NFL is always on the hunt for the next young “offensive mind”.
Sometimes people think that if a flower can exist in a pile of crap, it could really bloom elsewhere.
Guess the difference here is Fassel had been an OC previously before. That said, the NFL is always on the hunt for the next young “offensive mind”.
Sometimes people think that if a flower can exist in a pile of crap, it could really bloom elsewhere.
According to the plays being called on sunday...he actually is.
A career RB in the draft would be great though.
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I also think another difference was that he was a HC before even though it was in college, so he already had HC’ing experience.
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