Pass Rush

[Sandan]

EVERY DAMN TEAM HAS INJURIES.

Thanks for yelling at me Cheese

 

[Cheesebeef]

Thanks for yelling at me Cheese

Sorry. I’m just tired of the lame excuse, as if the Cardinals play football in a vacuum where injuries don’t happen to every team in the league. The Niners, Bucs and Lions are all MASH units and they’re all amongst the best teams in football. Why? Because they have superior coaching and depth. We have neither and that’s why we lose close games.

 

[football karma]

not sure where to put this, but:

lots of talk of defense in the 4th quarter -- but RedZone defense in the 4th quarter has been............. terrible

NO in the 4th quarter was 0/2 in converting TDs in the Redzone --- since that game:

Carolina 1/1
Tennessee 2/2
SF 1/1
Sea 0/1
Ind 2/2
GB 2/2

for the season thats a 73% of drives that get to the redzone end up as a TD. Last five weeks: 88%! One stop.

NFL average is 56% or so. The 88% would lead the league as an offense.

Wow

 

[CardNots]

Not. Doing. The. Same. God. Damned. Thing. That. Keeps. Failing. Over. And. Over. And. Over. Again.

This, less the periods but adding in a couple more Over Ands

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

Sorry. I’m just tired of the lame excuse, as if the Cardinals play football in a vacuum where injuries don’t happen to every team in the league. The Niners, Bucs and Lions are all MASH units and they’re all amongst the best teams in football. Why? Because they have superior coaching and depth. We have neither and that’s why we lose close games.

technically i think we're playing the back up's back up's back up's back up's at running back? i may have missed a back up with johnson(?) now seeing time

6th string running back by week 7 - yikes

 

[Sandan]

Ok I'll bite on this

Why do we keep losing games after being ahead. The most obvious reason comes to mind, because we can't burn the clock because our RBs are injured.

Why is our pass rush bad. Because we can't stop the run and make them passeh as out DT are injured and we are down CBs who are injured.

Yes the 49s have injuries but they don't have 20% of their starters injured

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

bend but don't break until the end defense

 

[kerouac9]

we are down CBs who are injured

You keep saying this but we’re down one CB who is a part time player. We have five starting-caliber defensive backs.

 

[kerouac9]

Yes the 49s have injuries but they don't have 20% of their starters injured

How many starters is one All Pro worth? What about two?

20% of 22 is four?

Purdy
Aiyuk
Bosa
Warner
Pearsall
Kittle

Like what are we even talking about here?

 

[cardncubfan]

Starling, SMB, & Williams. That's 3 cbs we are without.

 

[Sandan]

You keep saying this but we’re down one CB who is a part time player. We have five starting-caliber defensive backs.

Sean Murphy-Bunting
Starling Thomas
Garrett Williams

That's 3 by my math

 

[Mulli]

Sean Murphy-Bunting
Starling Thomas
Garrett Williams

That's 3 by my math

Sad starting cbs

 

[Sandan]

As for the others and this was as of a couple of weeks ago when Kyler was out

Sean Murphy-Bunting
Starling Thomas
Garrett Williams
BJ Ojulari
L.J. Collier
James Conner
Trey Benson
Tip Reiman
Walter Nolan
Darius Robinson - still not played yet
Kyler Murray

This is 11 players out of the 53 man roster we planned on which by my math is 21% (or 20.7% if you want to be picky)

Obviously losing the starting QB is the worst but losing our starting RB and his backup in a run first offence is disastrous. Losing Conner is why we can't close out games.

 

[Mulli]

Losing Conner is why you can’t beat the Titans at home?

 

[TJ]

As for the others and this was as of a couple of weeks ago when Kyler was out

Sean Murphy-Bunting
Starling Thomas
Garrett Williams
BJ Ojulari
L.J. Collier
James Conner
Trey Benson
Tip Reiman
Walter Nolan
Darius Robinson - still not played yet
Kyler Murray

This is 11 players out of the 53 man roster we planned on which by my math is 21% (or 20.7% if you want to be picky)

Obviously losing the starting QB is the worst but losing our starting RB and his backup in a run first offence is disastrous. Losing Conner is why we can't close out games.

Injuries arent even amongst the Top-5 reasons we're 2-5 right now.

 

[kerouac9]

Sean Murphy-Bunting
Starling Thomas
Garrett Williams

That's 3 by my math

None is those guys are starters or would have been. SMB was injured in January. What are you on about?

 

[kerouac9]

Lol Beej major loss we miss him every week

 

[TJ]

1. In-game coaching/adjustments
2. Offensive game plan
3. QB play by the "QBoF"
4. Offensive lineplay
5. Player discipline

 

[Chopper0080]

I thought this was a pass rush thread?

 

[Cheesebeef]

Starling, SMB, & Williams. That's 3 cbs we are without.

Everyone crowed about how Johnson and Melton were gonna step up and be starters this year before injuries forced their hand, but even if they didn’t, SMB was awful last year and Williams wasn’t a starter.

 

[Cheesebeef]

As for the others and this was as of a couple of weeks ago when Kyler was out

Sean Murphy-Bunting
Starling Thomas
Garrett Williams
BJ Ojulari
L.J. Collier
James Conner
Trey Benson
Tip Reiman
Walter Nolan
Darius Robinson - still not played yet
Kyler Murray

This is 11 players out of the 53 man roster we planned on which by my math is 21% (or 20.7% if you want to be picky)

Obviously losing the starting QB is the worst but losing our starting RB and his backup in a run first offence is disastrous. Losing Conner is why we can't close out games.

Losing a starting QB and starting running back is disastrous? Okay… then how are the Niners 5-2 losing a starting QB and all THREE of their starting WRs for multiple games plus All Pros on D like Bosa and Warner?

And did you really list BJ Ojulari?!

The above is why I yelled at you.

 

[Harry]

I think some of this comes from leading so much in these games. It's easy to take risks when you are behind or feel like you have nothing to lose. I would like to see more aggressiveness from the defense overall, but this team doesn't seem to be effective at blitzing and it might be because we are less frequent in doing so.

You don’t stop an essential part of the game. You redesign your attack or you keep running it until you learn to make it work. There must be a couple dozen routes you could experiment with.

 

[phillycard]

You don’t stop an essential part of the game. You redesign your attack or you keep running it until you learn to make it work. There must be a couple dozen routes you could experiment with.

Coaching, scheme, adaptability. Rinse and repeat.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

I thought this was a pass rush thread?

Don't Sweat it

 

[Sandan]

Losing a starting QB and starting running back is disastrous? Okay… then how are the Niners 5-2 losing a starting QB and all THREE of their starting WRs for multiple games plus All Pros on D like Bosa and Warner?

And did you really list BJ Ojulari?!

The above is why I yelled at you.

I think my point isn't making excuses of why we are sucking, it's that it isn't a simple answer.

In fact it's complicated but we get posts like 'just blitz more' or 'fire Gannon' 'bench Kyler', it isn't that simple

I would image there is a plan for Kyler and QB drafting focused around results and his contract