OT: Brian Flores Suing NFL Alleging Racism

[Card'em]

Citing the firing of Wilks after one horrible year without any other facts is pretty weak. Joe Judge and a host of other 1 year terminations fly in the face of this bogus charge, and I'm not talking about the general allegation of racism, only the citing of the Wilks firing as evidence.

 

[SoonerLou]

Cross Flores off the list to replace Kliff after next season (if he's fired)

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[TJ]

Yes. Specificially he cites that Wilks getting fired while Keim kept his job.

I would love for this to take out Keim. That'd be the funniest ****

 

[Buckybird]

I'm seeing reports that Flores lawsuit is citing the Cardinals firing Wilks as example of racism in the NFL

In all honesty that’s a piss poor example, given their track record for hiring minorities. Wilkes was a poor choice & exactly why he’s been out if the league

 

[SoonerLou]

I would love for this to take out Keim. That'd be the funniest ****

Flores is probably p'od the Cardinals job wasnt open for him to get.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

In all honesty that’s a piss poor example, given their track record for hiring minorities. Wilkes was a poor choice & exactly why he’s been out if the league

Wilkes was a bad hire...he had a bad team...but it was clear he was a bad hire. Flores got absolutely screwed in Miami.

 

[SoonerLou]

In all honesty that’s a piss poor example, given their track record for hiring minorities. Wilkes was a poor choice & exactly why he’s been out if the league

Wilks should have been gone. Kliff was a head scratching choice. Keim chose the worst QB in 2018. All can be true.

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I like the drama though. Pressure on Keim. Force Kliff to bring in outside mind to help with the offense. Although I do fear this forces them to keep Vance.

Edit: Hmm maybe Miami thinks about Vance now.

 

[juza76]

I wonder if the Dolphins now feel pressured to hire a black head coach (maybe Vance gets back into the mix) to get the spotlight a bit off of them.

Definitely, even more if the owner is targeting again the 1st pick in the draft

 

[Buckybird]

Wilkes was a bad hire...he had a bad team...but it was clear he was a bad hire. Flores got absolutely screwed in Miami.

Totally agree on both takes. I did read a couple of days after his firing there were rumors of heated disagreements between Flores & Tua. Hmmmm maybe that played a factor?

 

[tnmike]

a few thing pop out on this:

1. Just enough first hand inside scoop (Belichek texts, the Stephen Ross stories, the Elway story) to make this stay in the news beyond just the allegations.

2. By naming the entire NFL and showing an alleged fact pattern across the league -- this feels like an invitation to other black coaches to make it a class action lawsuit -- which would terrify the NFL imo. (note: while I've had more legal experience than I care for, I am not a lawyer -- love for an attorney to weigh in here).

3. The threat of discovery alone might compel a giant settlement from the NFL.

I am not an attorney but I did attend law school, ( before I ran out of money and had to drop out). In my opinion these allegations will be hard to prove. Without direct witnesses or some sort of smoking gun for evidence ( which they very well might have ) it seems to me to be a reach. The thing is if some judge allows it to go to trial anything could happen. Juries like to stick it to rich people and corporations when given the opportunity. Some big shot lawyer might be looking to get in the news and force a settlement. Who knows?

 

[tnmike]

Wilkes was a bad hire...he had a bad team...but it was clear he was a bad hire. Flores got absolutely screwed in Miami.

The very 1st game you could tell Wilks was a major mistake

 

[SoonerLou]

Totally agree on both takes. I did read a couple of days after his firing there were rumors of heated disagreements between Flores & Tua. Hmmmm maybe that played a factor?

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[HGC]

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article256841207.html

 

[juza76]

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If its true i would have fired him too, delegitimize your qb in the middle of the season isn't a leader action

 

[az jam]

My take again is will a black coach be hired this year? As I stated on my earlier post there were 9 HC openings and 4 have been filled by white coaches. Only Josh McDaniels had any head coaching experience which was a disaster with Denver. Per the Rooney rule the interviews are taking place. Why aren't any of them being hired?

 

[SoonerLou]

If its true i would have fired him too, delegitimize your qb in the middle of the season isn't a leader action

The interesting part is that Lombardi is really good friends with Bill. Between him putting that out there and then Bill's text probably sent him over the edge.

If its true then yea he should have been fired.

 

[QuebecCard]

If they were already going to hire someone else, and Flores was only there to fill a quota, and the Broncos showed they didn't care about the interview, and made a mockery of it, then yes, racism as it relates to the Rooney Rule.

And maybe the Giants had already met the Rooney Rule before meeting with Flores, and a lack of respect and racism are two very different things. He's got one in the bag; not sure how he turns it into #2.

 

[Minski]

Maybe Miami now hire VJ to prove something

 

[GatorAZ]

Wilks should have been gone. Kliff was a head scratching choice. Keim chose the worst QB in 2018. All can be true.

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I like the drama though. Pressure on Keim. Force Kliff to bring in outside mind to help with the offense. Although I do fear this forces them to keep Vance.

Edit: Hmm maybe Miami thinks about Vance now.

That Packers team was hot trash…

Idk what happened with Wilks and whether or not he deserved another year. It seemed like the players supported him publicity after the last game but the team was so unwatchable that they couldn’t run it back.

 

[SoonerLou]

That Packers team was hot trash…

Idk what happened with Wilks and whether or not he deserved another year. It seemed like the players supported him publicity after the last game but the team was so unwatchable that they couldn’t run it back.

Maybe Josh Rosen is the worst QB of all time?

 

[GatorAZ]

Maybe Josh Rosen is the worst QB of all time?

I mean take your pick; Anderson, Skelton, Lindley, Hall, Hoyer, Gabbert, Bradford…

 

[juza76]

Maybe Josh Rosen is the worst QB of all time?

Not just him
It was one of the lowest level of football I have ever seen

 

[SoonerLou]

I mean take your pick; Anderson, Skelton, Lindley, Hall, Hoyer, Gabbert, Bradford…

Worst one to me.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Cross Flores off the list to replace Kliff after next season (if he's fired)

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I have ZERO doubt of widespread racism in the NFL, but there was a Grand Canyon sized difference between Wilks’ first year 3-13 disaster with a rookie QB and Kliff’s 5-10-1 first year with a rookie QB.

And that’s even coming from a guy who questions Kliff’s coaching abilities.

Gotta find better examples than that one. I knew the entire SEASON was over before halftime of Game 1 of the Wilks error.

 

[Card'em]

The University of Missouri hired Wilks as their defensive coordinator last season and their defense was horrendous. They had no ability to stop the run and had one of the worst run defenses in the country. I really thought that he was going to get canned again after one year at the college level. Actually feel sorry for the guy, but it's a competitive business.