Don’t read it. It’s your prerogative. I mean, the thread literally had the word “tank” in the title. Why even open it if you’re tired of the tanking talk? Just like it seems to be your prerogative to tell other people what they should or should not post. Okay thread cop.
To be fair they replaced hop with pascal. Every other point is spot on.
The thing I've been thinking about is how disasterous and toxic Monti must have viewed the entire front office, scouting staff, and pro personnel department. I'm surprised we're not hearing more departures, but I'm not checking the Cards' website staff pages with any regularity, either.
I think they replaced Green with Pascal. I guess you can say they replaced Hop and Green with Pascal and Wilson and it makes the same point that we're very very bad at wide receiver right now.
Particularly when the hit rate of draft picks is relatively low. If we even hit on 3 players in this past draft that’s still only . . . 3 players. At that rate it will take us forever to be relevant again. That’s why free agency is important. And we passed in it.
We do not know this yet. We HOPE for it.
So they aren’t part of the rebuild.
Nope, and that was my point.
Yes, I wasn’t really trying to argue we got better.
Keim essentially passed on free agency last year, too. It is almost like Michael has been tighter with his money since he gave out those huge extensions to Keim and Kliff.
Let's chill out about how much money was given to Keim and Kliff. We probably spent more on Jordan Phillips than we will for buying out these two jamokes.
Yes, It is of mine and many others opinion that Byron Murphy and Zach Allen are mediocre.
Mediocre would be a huge improvement on where we are! Allen would be far and away our best defensive lineman, and Murphy our top corner. Who cares about those positions though, not really important.
And that just makes the monti plan even murkier and less cohesive.
And we collectively burly beat him up too. But now people want to give monti a pass bc, reasons.
Because I read everything Harry writes and if You and Stout both feel I just hate on people, why respond to me? If the mods feel that way too, I'll just move on!
Well yes and no. This team is in a flux. We have to know what we are getting Kyler before it won't be.
Kyler's cap hit is 16 million this year and almost 52 million in 2024, Who wants to take on that contract?
Cap hit is not the same as cash paid.. his new team is only on the hook for new money paid to him in their cap. The 52 million cap hit the Cards have for him in 2024 accounts for money we already paid him in the past (e.g., singing bonus allocated out in the contract). Money we already paid to him stays on our cap as dead money.
I realize that is our cap hit. I was pointing out some want to sit him the entire year when his cap hit is only 16 million. So does anyone know what we what it would cost us to trade him in 2024 and what the new team would take on?
If we trade him after this season, I think net impact to the salary cap would be the total dead cap (81.521 M in 2024) minus the yearly cash to be paid in 2024 (38.850 M). So it would be about $43M in dead cap for the Cards to trade him - I am not 100% on that though. Keep in mind the dead cap money could be spread over 2 years too. For the new team, since there's no signing bonus money left to account for, it would just be the payment of the base salary + game/workout bonuses paid that season, so the cap hit would be the yearly cash paid to him over those seasons (which I detailed above).
well thats my whole point, instead of investing long term in mediocrity at a couple positions, you need to tear it down and start over and upgrade starters and depth. its going to take a few years. Kyler will not be on the cardinals next playoff team
Crazy thing is it would have. Not that Zach or Byron would have made a huge difference in the outcome of this miserable season we're set to endure, but the sign of a team that's competing (or at least trying to) is retaining talent, signing free agents that make you better, and drafting well. Well, 1 out for 3 is pretty bad, and left me feeling like a kid that just found out he's getting left back in school.
