Haason Reddick or D.J. Humphries: Who has a better chance to finally breakout?

DVontel

ASFN Icon
Joined
Jan 28, 2015
Posts
12,545
Reaction score
21,673
Please don’t respond with “Neither. Get both off the team” or any other statement similar to that.
 

Solar7

Go Suns
Joined
May 18, 2002
Posts
11,123
Reaction score
11,964
Location
Las Vegas, NV
Humphries. He's shown flashes and just needs to stay healthy. He has all of the physical tools, and I think he'll mentally thrive with a player's coach like Kingsbury.

Reddick has nothing but athletic ability. I'm not blaming the kid, he maximized his position when getting picked, but he was overdrafted and poorly coached in terms of being cycled through positions and systems.
 

kerouac9

Klowned by Keim
Joined
Feb 14, 2003
Posts
37,505
Reaction score
27,795
Location
Gilbert, AZ
Honestly, neither. I think that if one is more likely to become a star, it’s Reddick. Vance would have to decide that the entire defense would be designed to feature him, like we did with Daryl Washington, another physical pheonom who could only do one thing.

I think Humphries is more likely to play though pain for 16 games in the hope of getting a $45 million payday.
 

Solar7

Go Suns
Joined
May 18, 2002
Posts
11,123
Reaction score
11,964
Location
Las Vegas, NV
Honestly, neither. I think that if one is more likely to become a star, it’s Reddick. Vance would have to decide that the entire defense would be designed to feature him, like we did with Daryl Washington, another physical pheonom who could only do one thing.

I think Humphries is more likely to play though pain for 16 games in the hope of getting a $45 million payday.
Props for skipping over "don't say 'neither,'" haha. But, I'm with you on the Humphries thing. We totally lose the guy next offseason, in my opinion. I bet he plays very well and gets into a situation where he's going to get paid more than we can offer. And our OL stays in the same fluctuation point where we have to sign a mediocre player or draft one too high.

God, I'm sick of being so negative. Reddick is going to set the league on fire and set the record for sacks from an ILB! Harrison and Humphries are both going to look great and continue on with team friendly deals that give us the best tackle depth in the league! Gigi Hadid is going to ask me to marry her and will buy me a mint copy of Amazing Fantasy #15!
 

Timm Rosenbach

Bye Bye DJ
Joined
Sep 11, 2005
Posts
6,505
Reaction score
4,399
Location
Tucson
Humphies is a legitimate NFL starter. Reddick is the worst first round pick of the Keim era (which says a lot). The real question is whether Nkemdiche will contribute AT ALL this season. He has the most to prove
 

RON_IN_OC

https://www.ronevansrealty.com
Joined
Mar 10, 2004
Posts
26,070
Reaction score
33,149
Location
BirdGangThing
Humphries, but only if he stays healthy all season.

Reddick will stay healthy and be a contributor, though.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
 

Timm Rosenbach

Bye Bye DJ
Joined
Sep 11, 2005
Posts
6,505
Reaction score
4,399
Location
Tucson
Reddick, because he’s not injury-prone like Humphries

Reddick is worthless on the field even when healthy. I would like to see him contribute on special teams this year. Completely incapable of understanding an NFL scheme
 

Krangodnzr

Captain of Team Murray
Joined
Jul 21, 2002
Posts
35,818
Reaction score
33,014
Location
Orange County, CA
Reddick is worthless on the field even when healthy. I would like to see him contribute on special teams this year. Completely incapable of understanding an NFL scheme

Hyperbole. Hes an average NFL player, with potential to be a lot better.

I vote Reddick because I just dont think Humphries can stay healthy.

And if he does? Franchise tag next year.
 

kerouac9

Klowned by Keim
Joined
Feb 14, 2003
Posts
37,505
Reaction score
27,795
Location
Gilbert, AZ
Hyperbole. Hes an average NFL player, with potential to be a lot better.

I vote Reddick because I just dont think Humphries can stay healthy.

And if he does? Franchise tag next year.
Like average on an NFL roster? Because he’s a below average starter.
 

football karma

Happy in the pretense of knowledge
Joined
Jul 22, 2002
Posts
14,966
Reaction score
13,448
i think Reddick can become a solid NFL starter at ILb

Humphries? even when healthy-- it seems he has a couple snaps a game where he gives up a straight run at the QB
 

Krangodnzr

Captain of Team Murray
Joined
Jul 21, 2002
Posts
35,818
Reaction score
33,014
Location
Orange County, CA
Like average on an NFL roster? Because he’s a below average starter.

Says you. He had 80 tackles last year. I know you dont care for PFF much, but they rate him an average starter.

Definitely a disappointment for a fairly high 1st round pick.
 

Crimson Warrior

Dangerous Murray Zealot
Joined
Oct 27, 2002
Posts
7,696
Reaction score
7,683
Location
Home of the Thunder
Reddick will have to come from further back in the pack. Humphries has shown more than him to date (which is kind of damming in itself).

Humphries has a shorter distance to go to get to a "break out" level of performance, and thus it makes sense to pick him.

Are both guys in contract years, or just Humphries?
 

Ronin

…..
Super Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Oct 12, 2006
Posts
138,422
Reaction score
57,680
Location
Las Cruces, New Mexico
Reddick will have to come from further back in the pack. Humphries has shown more than him to date (which is kind of damming in itself).

Humphries has a shorter distance to go to get to a "break out" level of performance, and thus it makes sense to pick him.

Are both guys in contract years, or just Humphries?
According the over the cap, just Humphries.
Reddick comes off the books after the 2020 season.
 

kerouac9

Klowned by Keim
Joined
Feb 14, 2003
Posts
37,505
Reaction score
27,795
Location
Gilbert, AZ
Says you. He had 80 tackles last year. I know you dont care for PFF much, but they rate him an average starter.

Definitely a disappointment for a fairly high 1st round pick.

Pointing to an unofficial stat on a mediocre defense and a bad run defense. Very exciting.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-nfl-front-seven-rankings-all-32-teams-after-17-weeks

The Cardinals’ front seven was about as uninspiring a unit as there was in the NFL. Even young players they were hoping to see take a step forward failed to perform. Former first-rounders Haason Reddick and Robert Nkemdiche earned grades of 61.3 and 59.5 overall, respectively. Nkemdiche notched all of 10 pressures in 10 games. [/QUOTE[

They sound very high on him.

Reddick will have to come from further back in the pack. Humphries has shown more than him to date (which is kind of damming in itself).

Humphries has a shorter distance to go to get to a "break out" level of performance, and thus it makes sense to pick him.

Are both guys in contract years, or just Humphries?

I think the Cards have to make a decision on Reddick's fifth-year option after this season -- next January, maybe? So it's a hard contract year for D.J. and a soft contract year for Reddick.
 

Chris_Sanders

Not Always The Best Moderator
Super Moderator
Moderator
Supporting Member
Joined
Sep 14, 2002
Posts
38,430
Reaction score
28,059
Location
Scottsdale, Az
I believe it is Reddick since he will have superior talent around him so he has an easier path to success.

One of them "breaking out" would be huge though. A lot better than just "breaking" like last year.
 

DevonCardsFan

Registered User
BANNED BY MODERATORS
Joined
May 13, 2002
Posts
5,819
Reaction score
802
Location
Your Mamas
Neither get both off the team


Hahahahhaha



Humphries because Kyler is mobile and hell improve this Oline
 

Jetstream Green

Kool Aid with a touch of vodka
Joined
Feb 5, 2003
Posts
29,462
Reaction score
16,606
Location
San Antonio, Texas
Humphries has a better chance to break since he's already there as a legit starter when he actually plays and Reddick a better chance to break out
 

cardpa

Have a Nice Day!
Joined
Mar 14, 2003
Posts
7,354
Reaction score
4,037
Location
Monroe NC
Honestly, neither. I think that if one is more likely to become a star, it’s Reddick. Vance would have to decide that the entire defense would be designed to feature him, like we did with Daryl Washington, another physical pheonom who could only do one thing.

I think Humphries is more likely to play though pain for 16 games in the hope of getting a $45 million payday.

I'm with K9 on this. Not sure Hump can get through 16 games even with trying to play through pain.
 

RugbyMuffin

ASFN IDOL
Joined
Apr 30, 2003
Posts
30,485
Reaction score
4,877
Humphries

Not even a discussion. The question is who has the better chance.

I think Humphries has a better chance at staying healthy than Reddick does at figuring out how to play linebacker in the NFL.

Reddick is horrible, a severe and embarrassing bust of draft pick for the Cardinals. Yeah, 80 tackles last year, between the amount of time that defense was on the field, and the fact SOMEONE had to bring down the opposing offensive player I guess that is a feather in his hat.

What makes that even more sad is the realization he is only the 3rd worst 1st round pick from the Steve Keim era, with Cooper and Nkimbusty beating him out.....and Nkimbusty has had to put in quite an effort to surpass Reddick in draft bust embarrassment.

Sent from my mystical communication warp drive device thingy
 

mojorizen7

ASFN Addict
Joined
Oct 16, 2007
Posts
9,161
Reaction score
440
Location
In a van...down by the river.
Injuries and durability aside, if the light hasn't come on by year 3 for a player it likely never will. Humphries is what he is. A 5th year pro who has to be considered a bust at this point.

Reddick is entering year 3 so there's still upside there IMO.
 

Krangodnzr

Captain of Team Murray
Joined
Jul 21, 2002
Posts
35,818
Reaction score
33,014
Location
Orange County, CA
Top