Gut Feeling: Cards take Daryl Washington

[kerouac9]

And they take him at #26 overall. Darren mentions him in his "Draft Provides Time to Think" article and has the Cards taking him in his mock draft.

I'd be livid if that happened. If all the prospective targets that we've been talking about for weeks were off the board, someone good must be available.

 

[Zeno]

Yeah I wouldn't be happy with that happening either because I would feel he was picked too early. He is probably not a guy who would be able to contribute significantly as soon as we need someone at #26 to be able to.

 

[Buckybird]

And they take him at #26 overall. Darren mentions him in his "Draft Provides Time to Think" article and has the Cards taking him in his mock draft.

I'd be livid if that happened. If all the prospective targets that we've been talking about for weeks were off the board, someone good must be available.

maybe so...I see visions of Ray Thompson in my head.

I've seen Washington play nearly all his games the last few seasons living here in Dallas and the guy has some sideline to sideline skills & is very active. but he also gets blown up at the point of attack. I'm not sure he's worth the risk at #26.

 

[binkar]

I am terrified of us reaching for a ILB. In Casserly's mock today he has us taking Sean Lee (who I actually like more than Washington). I really like Lee, but at 26? That would be disappointing.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

I would be livid too. Raynoch Jr

 

[187]

No way they reach that hard on him, if all else fails we trade back and get him in the second. Daryl at #26 overall is such a huge reach, I can't see Whiz and co screwing up that badly.

 

[WarnerHOF]

I hope not...because that would mean we are once again entering a dark era in Cards history...Washington is strictly a 43 LB and a massive reach at #26.

 

[BigDavis75]

I would hate Lee or Washington at 26. There has to be better talent there and if there isn't, trade down to the mid 30s or something. Picking a tiny WILB at 26 would be a monumental mistake.

 

[Dayman]

I actually wouldn't mind the pick if the board falls the way Urban predicts it will. Like it or not, we have an enormous hole at ILB, and with the lack of prospects who fit that role, there's no guarantee how long guys like Washington and Lee will last. As long as Washington can put on some weight, I think he'd do well in this defense.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Isn't your ILB supposed to be bigger than your SS? That pick would stink.

 

[Shogun]

I'd be happy with the pick.

 

[BW52]

No to Washington.

 

[joeshmo]

I look at Washington in a similar light as Lawrence Timmons who is doing just fine in Pitt as a WILB. Similar skill sets with Washington a little more aggresive probably.

But Timmons works because he has a 330 pound monster in front of him. If Timmons didnt have Hampton in front of him he would be a complete bust right now. Plus Timmons is 5 pounds heavier and 1 inch shorter which makes him considerably more stocky ro more stout then Washington. It also took Timmons a full two years before he gained the strength to be a full time starter.

So if we did get Washington who isn't a bad prospect I would fully expect him to not start for a full year to year and a half until he gained 8+ pounds minimum, gained strength, and we found a good fatty to put in front of him. That is a lot of variables and patience to have for a 1st round pick IMO. If we had an already established fat boy in front my tune might be a little different.

As of right now I think the Cards are hoping hard that Dan Williams or Sean Weatherspoon will be available. After that I have no clue what direction they would go.

 

[kerouac9]

I look at Washington in a similar light as Lawrence Timmons who is doing just fine in Pitt as a WILB. Similar skill sets with Washington a little more aggresive probably.

But Timmons works because he has a 330 pound monster in front of him. If Timmons didnt have Hampton in front of him he would be a complete bust right now. Plus Timmons is 5 pounds heavier and 1 inch shorter which makes him considerably more stocky ro more stout then Washington. It also took Timmons a full two years before he gained the strength to be a full time starter.

So if we did get Washington who isn't a bad prospect I would fully expect him to not start for a full year to year and a half until he gained 8+ pounds minimum, gained strength, and we found a good fatty to put in front of him. That is a lot of variables and patience to have for a 1st round pick IMO. If we had an already established fat boy in front my tune might be a little different.

As of right now I think the Cards are hoping hard that Dan Williams or Sean Weatherspoon will be available. After that I have no clue what direction they would go.

And this is exactly the reason why he should be a second or a third round pick. This is what you expect out of second or third round picks. But from first rounders, they better be starting two-thirds of the way through the season.

I totally agree with you that the Cards have their fingers crossed that Williams or Weatherspoon slip to where they could at least trade up a little bit. If that doesn't happen, they'll be forced to choose someone at 26. If it's a guy who should be a mid-second round pick in Washington, I'm going to be sick. BPA in that case--regardless of need.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

I'd be happy with the pick.

+1

 

[bg7brd]

If they're going to reach at 26, I would rather they take Sean Lee. He has the smarts to be a starter right away.

 

[Pariah]

maybe so...I see visions of Ray Thompson in my head.

Although, it may have been interesting to see if Thompson could have developed more as a WILB.

I might be okay with the pick. I'd have to see how the board shakes out before I get all up in arms about it.

 

[kerouac9]

Just to give some people a sense of his value. The Huddle Report ranks Washington 39th on their value board. CBSSports.com has him rated 42nd (just above Terrance Cody). NFL.com has him graded out 33rd--with the same grade as Taylor Mays and Rodger Saffold.

If the Cards truly believe that there's depth at the ILB/OLB position, then there's no need to reach for this guy at 26th overall. There should be a value player at any other position. Maurkice Pouncey would be a better choice.

 

[Mulli]

Superfan took Jerry Hughes!! I love it.

I also like you getting on Williamson.

 

[kerouac9]

Superfan took Jerry Hughes!! I love it.

I also like you getting on Williamson.

Thanks for reminding me. I have to post a link to that...

 

[football karma]

as a firm believer that the Cards will always tell you what they are going to do in the draft if you listen:

this morning -- two themes on Doug/Wolf show:

Daryl Washington again comes up from Wolf (interesting that the two media guys closest the the Cardinals bring up the same name) --- and--

the idea of trading back into the second round.


My take/ rampant speculation: in various draft scenarios, the Cards FO has concluded that the guys they want will likely be gone at #26. If so, they will seek to trade back. If they cant -- they take the guy they like who will likely by there: Washington.

I suspect that they will have options to trade back -- teams like Seattle, Cleveland, maybe Buffalo etc who want Qbs but don't get one in the top ten will be interested in trading back into the bottom of the first to grab Colt McCoy

 

[Mulli]

Thanks for reminding me. I have to post a link to that...

Were you on a treadmill?

 

[kerouac9]

Were you on a treadmill?

I was. I was 55 minutes into a run when the call came in. I really don't sound that winded.

 

[MadCardDisease]

I totally agree with you that the Cards have their fingers crossed that Williams or Weatherspoon slip to where they could at least trade up a little bit. If that doesn't happen, they'll be forced to choose someone at 26. If it's a guy who should be a mid-second round pick in Washington, I'm going to be sick. BPA in that case--regardless of need.

You've actually sold me on Williams. I've seen a lot of coverage on him over the last couple of weeks. The thing that really caught my eye was how well built his lower body is. He needs a little strength up top and I'm still concerned that he plays a little high at times but those things can be fixed.

Clearly he is the best NT prospect in the draft and he is deserving of a 1st round pick. However with several 3-4 teams picking before the Cardinals, I doubt that Williams falls all the way to the Cards a 26. I f he does drop I would have no problem if they took him at 26.

 

[Mulli]

I was. I was 55 minutes into a run when the call came in. I really don't sound that winded.

All good.