Deal could be done by late June

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Was listening to Srirus NFL today and they were saying multiple sources were reporting "extreme" optimism that the end is near in these negotiations and that Goddell and De. Smith were going to have dinner to settle their differences.

Like I've said all along, I'll believe it when I see it.
 

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Was listening to Srirus NFL today and they were saying multiple sources were reporting "extreme" optimism that the end is near in these negotiations and that Goddell and De. Smith were going to have dinner to settle their differences.

Like I've said all along, I'll believe it when I see it.

I'm with ya. i don't want to get any hopes up only to see some kind of ruling from the courts blast this to hell... or some last minute blow up one of the parties.

when it's OVER let me know. until then, this is meaningless.
 

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It's over, really maybe kinda almost, just there, done, but just a little closer or a lot farther, but closer then when it was really really farther, but now it is a done, and over, maybe.
 

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Well knowing just that it will be over when it's finally over, I'd prefer to hear some optimism as opposed to the pessimism so I'll take what I can get.
 

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I think Churchill works nicely here.


Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.
 

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It better be over. I just realized that Basketball and Hockey are really over and so all we've got is Baseball. I can handle baseball for a few months (especially when the Dbacks are playing as well as they are) but by September I'm gonna be ready for some football.

CMON GUYS JUST MAKE IT HAPPEN!
 

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They could agree on 99% of things and probably still not sign a deal for that one thing. Especially, if it's money related.
 

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Was listening to Srirus NFL today and they were saying multiple sources were reporting "extreme" optimism that the end is near in these negotiations and that Goddell and De. Smith were going to have dinner to settle their differences.

Like I've said all along, I'll believe it when I see it.

Agree with your comment completely.
 

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Was listening to Srirus NFL today and they were saying multiple sources were reporting "extreme" optimism that the end is near in these negotiations and that Goddell and De. Smith were going to have dinner to settle their differences.

Like I've said all along, I'll believe it when I see it.

I believe absolutely nothing until I read a contract has been signed.
 

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NFL source: Labor negotiations 80-85 percent complete

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/15231374/nfl-source-labor-negotiations-8085-percent-complete

One source with intimate knowledge of the discussions tells me negotiations are 80-85 percent complete. They've made such fast progress, I'm told, it's catching many of the principals by surprise. Some are now canceling vacations, believing an agreement will be reached within a matter of days.

Basically, it seems, we continue to move solidly into that threshold of a season will be played, not if one will be played. Again, barring the knucklehead factor.

"It's going to be very difficult for this to get screwed up," the source said.

Nice
 

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More fuel for fire.

Lawyers finally asked to come back into the negotiations. Usually means they need the legal minds to dot the I's and T's.

Owners meetings are to take place next week. It is only a one day meeting, but they were told this morning to bring an overnight bag becuase they will now need two days. Rumor is the powers that be think they will need that extra day on top of other adgenda's so they can vote on the new CBA.
 

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More fuel for fire.

Lawyers finally asked to come back into the negotiations. Usually means they need the legal minds to dot the I's and T's.

Owners meetings are to take place next week. It is only a one day meeting, but they were told this morning to bring an overnight bag becuase they will now need two days. Rumor is the powers that be think they will need that extra day on top of other adgenda's so they can vote on the new CBA.

Thanks Joe. I have my fingers crossed.;)
 

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Yahoo article today said they did not feel the deal would be done by the owner's meeting, but quite possibly the week after. I think the observation above may be correct. They need to do final votes before, hopefully, approving a deal.

Would be nice.
 

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I am officially optimistic about the lockout being over soon now. I've been happy about the talks as of late but until they get the # crunching lawyers in there and even then...you know.

But I'm a guy that also looks for signs in life. While still keeping my promise not to drop one red cent on the NFL during all this, I found a loophole/ good omen. You know those little tied up bags of baseball cards you can get a the thrift store for a couple bucks? I always pass on them because it's pretty obvious they've already been gone through.

Saw some of those today, picked one out and brought it home. I know the value on cards is way down but when sliding them around in the bag I peeped a Fridge William Perry and I grew up on the Super Bowl Shuffle.

When I got them home, they are mixed baseball, footbal, and a littlebit of USA Olympic Basketball (including Dan Majerle and Shaq). But he football ones got my blood going.

Bo Jackson (2), Michael Irvin, Ron Woodson, Montanna, some others.

Chicago Bears...Singletary (2), Dent(2), McMahon, Willie Gault (Raiders card), Hilgenberg, Salaam, Carrier, and the Fridge (2).

Az Cards (in the same pack)Mcdonald,Ron Wolfley, Hogeboom, J.T. Smith, Tom Tupa, Larry Centers, Rob Moore, Freddie Joe Nunn, and Luis Sharpe.

Some cool baseball ones, a Cubs Mark Grace, a Manny Ramirez draft card, some others.

Sure none are worth anything but to me it's a sign, football coming back. I'll probably go back tomorrow and see if the other bags are still there.
 

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I am officially optimistic about the lockout being over soon now. I've been happy about the talks as of late but until they get the # crunching lawyers in there and even then...you know.

But I'm a guy that also looks for signs in life. While still keeping my promise not to drop one red cent on the NFL during all this, I found a loophole/ good omen. You know those little tied up bags of baseball cards you can get a the thrift store for a couple bucks? I always pass on them because it's pretty obvious they've already been gone through.

Saw some of those today, picked one out and brought it home. I know the value on cards is way down but when sliding them around in the bag I peeped a Fridge William Perry and I grew up on the Super Bowl Shuffle.

When I got them home, they are mixed baseball, footbal, and a littlebit of USA Olympic Basketball (including Dan Majerle and Shaq). But he football ones got my blood going.

Bo Jackson (2), Michael Irvin, Ron Woodson, Montanna, some others.

Chicago Bears...Singletary (2), Dent(2), McMahon, Willie Gault (Raiders card), Hilgenberg, Salaam, Carrier, and the Fridge (2).

Az Cards (in the same pack)Mcdonald,Ron Wolfley, Hogeboom, J.T. Smith, Tom Tupa, Larry Centers, Rob Moore, Freddie Joe Nunn, and Luis Sharpe.

Some cool baseball ones, a Cubs Mark Grace, a Manny Ramirez draft card, some others.

Sure none are worth anything but to me it's a sign, football coming back. I'll probably go back tomorrow and see if the other bags are still there.

I have 5 or 6 large plastic storage bins chock full of cards. Football, baseball, basketball, most of them from the mid 80's to early 90's. A lot of them are still in sealed boxes. My son used to collect them.
 

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It still sounds like posturing.

Maybe they'll surprise us and wrap this thing up soon.

But it's just as likely that they won't, and we'll continue to do something tantamount to "watching grass grow."

Suggested alternative activities:

- Hit the beach.

- Watch MLB

- NHL Draft will be held in 8 days.

- Watch reruns of Top Chef All Stars or Chopped.

- Organize and create new playlists on I-Pod

- Make a list of every tune you've lost track of since you were a teenager, do a Google search and then download them.

- Contact ESPN and NFL Net and lobby them to stop creating Top 100 lists.

- Create a "fake" season on Madden 11 or 12 - which assumes that the top 3 rumored trades or FA pickups for each NFL team have actually happened.
 

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What I want the new CBA to have:

1. Retroactively keep Restricted Free Agency. (All those tender signed to be valid)

2. Keep the NFL Draft the way it is. (Duh)

3. Roll back salary for Top 5 picks. (Stafford should never have been making more than Peyton Manning)

4. Roll back the player cut back 2% (From 57% to 55%)

5. Take money from both the Top 5 picks and half the money saved from the players cash roll back and invest it into the Veteran Pension fund. (Packers pulled in close to 200 million in revenue this year. 3 million dollars from every team is close to 100 million. That should be enough. Plus the money saved from the Top 5 picks. And if Jones ******* he can blow me.)

6. Keep both Franchise Tags,

7. Keep the 16 game season.
 
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