Compensation for Budenholzer?

[Dan H]

Saw that he is still under contract with Atlanta. If he's our guy are we going to have to give up a pick or cash for them to let him go, or are they moving on?

 

[Raindog]

Compensation? I wouldn't give up anything more than a second rounder, and a late one at that.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I wouldn't give up anything. The rumors have been out there all season about them going their separate ways. If they want to keep him, we should look elsewhere.

 

[sunsfan88]

Doc Rivers was traded for 28th overall 1st rd pick while Jason Kidd was traded for 2 second rd picks.

I think I’d give up #31 at most but the Raptors second rd pick that the Suns have should realistically be enough.

 

[Carolinacacti]

Nothing

 

[JerkFace]

The compensation is the Hawks not having to pay him the 14 million dollars he is due over the next two years.

 

[GatorAZ]

The impact of a top-10 coach on this up and coming young team is significantly more valuable than a late 1st.

 

[AzStevenCal]

The impact of a top-10 coach on this up and coming young team is significantly more valuable than a late 1st.

Probably but you don't get richer by giving away assets. I see no reason for compensation. We aren't trying to seduce him away, it's rumored to be a broken relationship already.

 

[GatorAZ]

Probably but you don't get richer by giving away assets. I see no reason for compensation. We aren't trying to seduce him away, it's rumored to be a broken relationship already.

Well if you can straight up sign him then go for it but I’m not determining a so so asset a dealbreaker.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Well if you can straight up sign him then go for it but I’m not determining a so so asset a dealbreaker.

And I'm in favor of not encouraging the internet to raise the stakes. IMO, the more it's talked up, the sooner the idiots at ESPN will start proclaiming it necessary. The next thing you know they'll have us giving up our first this year and a future unprotected pick. Compensation for coaches under contract isn't common, usually you can't even get access to them unless there's a break in the relationship. I want the Suns to get better, not the Hawks and certainly not with our gifted assets.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Raptors 2nd rounder and that’s the limit for me.

Not a championship coach like rivers who netted only the 28th pick.

Actually coming off a dismal season (even if they didn’t have any talent - it still indicates he’s not exactly a miracle worker).

Allows Atlanta to get out from under a hefty contract.

Signs point to zero compensation from my vantage point. But willing to throw late 2nd if helps Atlanta save face. Not even willing to send 31st as that’s likely an asset this season.

 

[Mainstreet]

I think what the Suns have to give up for Budenholzer (if anything) will be influenced by the competition.

Have to believe he would like to return to Arizona if he still has family here.

Naturally I want the Suns to keep their picks less perhaps a late second round pick if it gets the deal done.

His contract is not a small one if the Hawks want to move on.

 

[GatorAZ]

And I'm in favor of not encouraging the internet to raise the stakes. IMO, the more it's talked up, the sooner the idiots at ESPN will start proclaiming it necessary. The next thing you know they'll have us giving up our first this year and a future unprotected pick. Compensation for coaches under contract isn't common, usually you can't even get access to them unless there's a break in the relationship. I want the Suns to get better, not the Hawks and certainly not with our gifted assets.

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[JCSunsfan]

I think what the Suns have to give up for Budenholzer (if anything) will be influenced by the competition.

Have to believe he would like to return to Arizona if he still has family here.

Naturally I want the Suns to keep their picks less perhaps a late second round pick if it gets the deal done.

His contract is not a small one if the Hawks want to move on.

Not really. The Hawks have no say in where he goes, so competition (New York, Milwuakee, whatever) does not really matter about compensation. Its just whether whatever team it is will give in to the Hawks bluff about wanting to keep him.

 

[AzStevenCal]

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What? You've never seen hyperbole for effect before? But anyway, you can never go wrong with a good Jurassic Park GIF. At least you didn't use the hill of poop scene.

 

[Bada0Bing]

I'm ok giving up a 2nd rounder, since we don't really have room on the roster for any more 2nd round projects anyway.

 

[JCSunsfan]

We will be saving the Hawks a lot of money. I think they should PAY US to sign him.

 

[Mainstreet]

Not really. The Hawks have no say in where he goes, so competition (New York, Milwuakee, whatever) does not really matter about compensation. Its just whether whatever team it is will give in to the Hawks bluff about wanting to keep him.

Bud is under contract with the Hawks for two more seasons so if the Suns want him (and the feeling is mutual) my guess the rebuilding Hawks will want compensation.

Do the Suns really want to drag this out?

I can't see the Suns wanting this to get ugly if the compensation is somewhat reasonable.

 

[Mainstreet]

We will be saving the Hawks a lot of money. I think they should PAY US to sign him.

No one wants to give the Hawks compensation for Bud.

I'm still peeved they took Joe Johnson away from us.

I guess we are talking about what ifs.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Bud is under contract with the Hawks for two more seasons so if the Suns want him (and the feeling is mutual) my guess the rebuilding Hawks will want compensation.

Do the Suns really want to drag this out?

I can't see the Suns wanting this to get ugly if the compensation is somewhat reasonable.

Yes, I can see them wanting compensation. But the competition for Bud will not have anything to do with it. Bud decides where he wants to go, and then the Hawks and whoever play chicken for compensation. Everyone knows the Hawks do not want him back, and Bud does not want to be there.

 

[sunsfan88]

Probably but you don't get richer by giving away assets. I see no reason for compensation. We aren't trying to seduce him away, it's rumored to be a broken relationship already.

Yeah but other teams may have interest in him and vice versa well. For example, a team with far superior talent like the Bucks have been linked to him.

If trading #31 is what it takes to get him here over going to the Bucks you do it. Plus I doubt the Suns are planning on bringing in so many rookies to already young roster anyway.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Yeah but other teams may have interest in him and vice versa well. For example, a team with far superior talent like the Bucks have been linked to him.

If trading #31 is what it takes to get him here over going to the Bucks you do it. Plus I doubt the Suns are planning on bringing in so many rookies to already young roster anyway.

But selling him and satisfying the Hawks are two completely different things. Bud is the person who has to be convinced. He doesn’t care about the assets. The Hawks obviously want to let him go or they would not be letting teams talk with him. So who is going to call who’s bluff?

When you have a coach under contract and you let him talk to other teams, it’s because you want to get rid of him. But if you fire him you still have to pay him.

 

[sunsfan88]

But selling him and satisfying the Hawks are two completely different things. Bud is the person who has to be convinced. He doesn’t care about the assets. The Hawks obviously want to let him go or they would not be letting teams talk with him. So who is going to call who’s bluff?

When you have a coach under contract and you let him talk to other teams, it’s because you want to get rid of him. But if you fire him you still have to pay him.

He’s interested in the Bucks job according to reports. He was even directly asked about it. I think he has interest in both the Suns & Bucks job. So now it comes down to which team Hawks want to trade with and that’s where assets come to play.

Good news is that Bucks don’t have many draft picks to offer (they only have their own, don’t own any other teams) and only draft picks can be traded for coaches per CBA.

 

[Hoop Head]

I don't think the Suns will need to part with any sort of compensation and if they do they have the Raptors pick this year to use, which wouldn't be much of a loss since they have 3 other picks before that. I think Budenholzer is playing the Suns against the Bucks to make sure he gets paid as much as possible. The Bucks owe Kidd a lot of money and that may keep them from paying top dollar for a new coach, we'll see.

Like others have said, I think the Hawks just want his salary off the books so their new GM can bring in his own coach. If compensation is something the Hawks are after though the Suns could probably beat any other team with their own 2nd round picks if they were sold on Budenholzer as their guy.

 

[pokerface]

If we get Ayton I could coach this team.




















Well I could!