Carson Palmer 96.5 QB rating over last 9 games

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Over the last 9 games of the season Palmer completed 65.7% of his passes, averaging 281 yards/game with 16 TD's and 9 INT's for a 96.5 QB rating, which would rank 8th on the season among all QB's.

If you were to average that our over a 16 game season it would be -

65.7% completion percentage
4,496 yards
28 TD's
16 INTS's

Those are pro bowl caliber #'s.

Expect good things from him next season with J.Cooper and an upgrade at LT in front of him
 
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Over the last 9 games of the season Palmer completed 65.7% of his passes, averaging 281 yards/game with 16 TD's and 9 INT's for a 96.5 QB rating, which would rank 8th on the season among all QB's.

If you were to average that our over a 16 game season it would be -

65.7% completion percentage
4,496 yards
28 TD's
16 INTS's

Those are pro bowl caliber #'s.

Expect good things from him next season with J.Cooper and an upgrade at LT in front of him

That's all well and good, but what about the last 6 games?

Or last 5 games?

Or last 4 games?

Oh, it's because it adds in a bunch of games against terrible defenses while screening out a bunch of terrible games against good defenses. I get it.

The last quarter of the season Palmer completed just over 64% of his passes for 8 YPA with 5 TDs and 5 INTs. That's an 86.2 QB rating.

Last 8 games of the season, 65.3% completion percentage, 8.2 YPA, 14 TDs, 8 INTs.

He's an average to below-average starter.
 
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That's all well and good, but what about the last 6 games?

Or last 5 games?

Or last 4 games?

Oh, it's because it adds in a bunch of games against terrible defenses while screening out a bunch of terrible games against good defenses. I get it.

The last quarter of the season Palmer completed just over 64% of his passes for 8 YPA with 5 TDs and 5 INTs. That's an 86.2 QB rating.

Last 8 games of the season, 65.3% completion percentage, 8.2 YPA, 14 TDs, 8 INTs.

He's an average to below-average starter.

The last 9 games of the season (which my numbers are based on) include SEA and SF which are two of the best, if not the two best defenses in the NFL. It also include STL and TEN, both solid D's themselves.

The quality of defenses over the 1st 7 vs the last 9 are very similar. Both sets include 1 match up against SF, STL and SEA. The difference is the learning curve had time to take place
 

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The last 9 games of the season (which my numbers are based on) include SEA and SF which are two of the best, if not the two best defenses in the NFL. It also include STL and TEN, both solid D's themselves.

The quality of defenses over the 1st 7 vs the last 9 are very similar. Both sets include 1 match up against SF, STL and SEA. The difference is the learning curve had time to take place

And adds in a gratuitous outing at home against a terrible Falcons defense. If Palmer was getting better to end the season (when the "learning curve" would be even further along), then why put in a Week 8 game?

Oh, because it makes your argument look WAY better. It's okay to cook the books a little bit; just cop to it when someone notices.
 

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Hey K9, does this mean you still want Shawn Hill at QB1? ;).
 
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Actually the reason I chose the last 9 games is that according to BA that's when it "clicked" for the offense and that's when we started our 7-2 run.
 

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And why not just have a thread about CP3picks for the
Last 16 games?
 

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i dont see anything wrong with the post and appreciate the thread. He seems to have played better, not a ton but better as the year went on. Here is to hoping he can continue to improve and we can get a blue chipper in the second round to groom beneath him.
 
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If I had pick out a game here and there, I would see your point Kerouac9, but when there was an obvious change in the teams performance under a new coach at a certain point in the year and I site ALL games from that point on and it's a large enough sample to be significant....
 

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Nice thread sun devil , k9 is just wrong over the last none which we started our run Palmer has been good. People just love to hate on the guy which makes no sense the fact he played all the games behind what was a terrible line speaks volumes. The guy is a flat out tough QB who is also a great leader. Yeah he threw some picks so did manning you don't see people calling for his replacemt. It's just ignorance of people that think that QBs grow on trees and someone better is out there, he's flat out the best we've had in years and a great season. Yeah let's replace him with a rook and suck that's the ticket!
 

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CP is popular with his fellow Cardinals according to Bob McManaman's AR article. And he has the full support of the coaching staff. I'm glad he's a Cardinal and looking for bigger and better things next season.
 

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Carson Palmer this year was the Palmer he's always been. A top 15-20 QB who can throw for lots of yards while displaying poor decision-making. His QB rating average over the last 7 years was his QB rating this year = 83.

After the previous trash at QB I think a 83-ish QB rating is fine...
 

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Hey K9, does this mean you still want Shawn Hill at QB1? ;).

Nah. I'm not happy with Palmer's INTs, but he plays like a homeless man's Ben Roethisberger--stands tall in the pocket, is tough as nails, and delivers the football with a ton of garbage around him.

He's played well enough over the second half that I'm not going to quibble with the $10M cap charge.
 
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If I had pick out a game here and there, I would see your point Kerouac9, but when there was an obvious change in the teams performance under a new coach at a certain point in the year and I site ALL games from that point on and it's a large enough sample to be significant....

:thumbup: K9 just likes to pick nits at times. :p
 

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I think Cardiac pointed out in another thread how angry Palmer got with himself after he threw the pick. I have also seen many games where he did not get mad at himself as he probably felt it wasn't his fault. I think as he and the other players on offense began to grasp the system he has been much better! And lets please not hear about how he threw 4 in Seattle because if you watched the game you know it was NOT 4 poor throws or decisions that caused those pics. Almost positive 2 or 3 of them were tipped balls up in the air and one was a great play by arguably the best corner in the league. Palmer in the second half was clearly better and another offseason to work with the team and on the Oline he could be very very good next season. Definately no need to reach this offseason for a QB but I will trust in BASK to make the right decisions...they have given me confidence with the team they assembled!!
 

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That's all well and good, but what about the last 6 games?

Or last 5 games?

Or last 4 games?

Oh, it's because it adds in a bunch of games against terrible defenses while screening out a bunch of terrible games against good defenses. I get it.

The last quarter of the season Palmer completed just over 64% of his passes for 8 YPA with 5 TDs and 5 INTs. That's an 86.2 QB rating.

Last 8 games of the season, 65.3% completion percentage, 8.2 YPA, 14 TDs, 8 INTs.

He's an average to below-average starter.

Because the 2nd half of a season is a good sample size. I guess we could just look at Brees versus Seattle. @St.Louis, @NYJ, or @Car in the 2nd half of the year and suggest he's losing it.

All QB's face good or bad defenses every week. The fact remains that Palmer was a top 5 QB the last half of the season, which includes the last 4, 5 or 6 games that you want to use.

Anybody who doesn't like what CP did the 2nd half of the season just wants to be argumentative or doesn't know what good QB play looks like when they see it.
 

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Add about 10 points for line play. Between being harassed or set back by a penalty I'd say he played well: not great; but well. No other available QB is likely to give the Cards a better chance to win next year.
 

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The thing that surprised me about Palmer was that he'd start games slow this season being off on his throws and then get better as the game went on. While the knock on him before coming to Arizona was that he'd play well and then kill you with a late turnover. But that didn't happen. Palmer did ok for us.

Now about the 45 yard kickoff return Sunday.....:bang:
 

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The thing that surprised me about Palmer was that he'd start games slow this season being off on his throws and then get better as the game went on. While the knock on him before coming to Arizona was that he'd play well and then kill you with a late turnover. But that didn't happen. Palmer did ok for us.

Now about the 45 yard kickoff return Sunday.....:bang:

That's what I said Sunday. It seems like he has to throw that early pick, or near pick, and then he's ready to go. Going from memory, it doesn't seem like he threw many picks in the 2nd halves of games all year.
 
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