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As others have said, you can't discount Nolen. He does seem to be he's going to be great or bad, I don't see much in between. He has quite a unique personality, his interviews were something different.

But Gannon seems to understand what he needs, I fancy him to get the best out of him.
 

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Brown's I guess. He's got some good tape, no doubt, but nothing about him says he's Jalen Carter or Quinnen Williams. His production on a very good line was mediocre, as was his athletic testing.

Maybe he'll be great, but if I had to bet money on a bust from the top 10 I'd choose Graham.

Interesting he's one of the guys I have the least doubt about. He may not be a HOF guy I don't know but his floor is pretty high IMO. He didn't do much of the workouts at the combine but he's pretty athletic and freaky strong and as mentioned on draft day his background in wrestling makes him a guy who really understands leverage and balance.

I can't stand Chris Simms but he raved about Graham and that was his thing he said he moves so well he actually bothers OL's they get so nervous thinking I have to be aware of his movement and then he hits them and just discards them because they underestimated how strong he was or he got them off balance.
 

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Brown's I guess. He's got some good tape, no doubt, but nothing about him says he's Jalen Carter or Quinnen Williams. His production on a very good line was mediocre, as was his athletic testing.

Maybe he'll be great, but if I had to bet money on a bust from the top 10 I'd choose Graham.
I don't think he'll be a bust, but I'd bet he won't even be a Pro Bowler.
 

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Even if Sanders bombs, it's not a bust because the Browns drafted him the 5th. Because of their qb situation, I can see Tyler Warren not being productive.
 

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I agree but don't feel that he will be. So much hype for him because he played for Dion. But who knows? I'm just responding with a guess per the thread question.
So he won the Heisman because he played for Deion? That's an outlandish take...
 

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Only if the Pats insist to keep him at OT after failing. He has all-pro G level skills.

My guess is easy and based on history. Athletic edge guys without production flop more than any other players so Shamar Steward would be my bet
I think they'll be stubborn because you don't put the #4 overall pick at guard. It'll be a Robert Gallery situation where it'll take three years being beaten like a drum before they kick him inside where he belongs.
 

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I think they'll be stubborn because you don't put the #4 overall pick at guard. It'll be a Robert Gallery situation where it'll take three years being beaten like a drum before they kick him inside where he belongs.
Exactly. It’s one of the things I never understood about the league. So many examples of high draft picks failing at a postion on the team that drafted them just to become really good players for other teams at a different position.

I get that you invested a top 10 pick to improve a position of need, but when that doesn’t work isn’t it better to get some ROI by moving him to another position, where he can succeed instead of sending him off.

We had the exact same situation with Leonard Davis. I think the worst is Justin Smith. Flopped with the bengals at Edge. Multiple all-pro seasons and a great 10 year career as 3-4 DE with 49ers
 
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The first time he drops a pass all the fans will say that it wouldn't have happened, if he wasn't spending so much time playing DB. And vice/versa, if he gives up a completion. He's just lucky he doesn't have to go under the microscope of this Board.
Lol you think other cities are softer than Phoenix on their players and teams? Phoenix fans and media are the softest in the country.
 

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Seattle has had something like 30 straight OL picks without a pro-bowler. That said, Zabel actually looks good.

Schneider became Seattle's general manager in 2010. He's made nearly 30 offensive line selections, starting with left tackle Russell Okung, the sixth pick in the 2010 draft. Okung made the Pro Bowl in 2012 and is the only one of those O-line picks to do so (none has earned All-Pro honors, either.)
 
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