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Suns sign second-round pick Taylor Griffin

PHOENIX - The Phoenix Suns have signed second-round draft pick Taylor Griffin, the 48th overall pick in the 2009 NBA Draft.

Terms of the deal were not disclosed.

"Taylor is an excellent athlete, a hard worker and very much team-oriented," said Suns President of Basketball Operations and General Manager Steve Kerr. "He fits right in with the kind of people we want in our organization, and he has a chance to develop into a very good player."

The former Oklahoma Sooner was a part of the Suns Summer League team, averaging 6.2 points and 3 rebounds while starting all five games.

In college his best season was his senior season, scoring 10 points per game and six rebounds playing forward along side his brother, the first overall pick Blake Griffin.
http://ktar.com/index.php?nid=112&sid=1200471
 
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Sign the guy we drafted. He was our worst player on the starting lineup in the summer league. Sucked in college and wasn't even mocked to be picked in any mock drafts. Hope he gets waived by the end of training camp.
 

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Well, that definitely was the cheapest option available. No NBA player makes less money than a second-round or undrafted rookie. I predict Taylor will spend most of the time down in D-League.
 

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^Griffin, you gonna get a Taylor Griffin jersey to go with your name? :p
 

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He'll be in D-League this season. His relevance on this team will be slim to none
 

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Thumbs down for signing a draft pick?

Thread post FAIL

Thumbs down for signing a draft pick?

Under most circumstances, Thread post FAIL.

For signing Taylor Griffin, another scrub brother who managed to put up a brawny 6.2 points, 3.0 rebounds and 1.0 steals in 23.8 minutes per game and shot only 31.3 percent from the field in the SUMMER LEAGUE, a league that Bo Outlaw regularly put up triple doubles in? Entirely appropriate.

There is a reason Taylor wasn't on any draft boards. (Here's a hint...he sucks)
 

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Thumbs down for signing a draft pick?

Under most circumstances, Thread post FAIL.

For signing Taylor Griffin, another scrub brother who managed to put up a brawny 6.2 points, 3.0 rebounds and 1.0 steals in 23.8 minutes per game and shot only 31.3 percent from the field in the SUMMER LEAGUE, a league that Bo Outlaw regularly put up triple doubles in? Entirely appropriate.

There is a reason Taylor wasn't on any draft boards. (Here's a hint...he sucks)

IMO, this is laughable. An argument could be made the Suns needed another C-F or another backup PG. What do the Suns do... they sign another SF.
 

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Anyone who has ever watched Taylor Griffin play (except apparently David Griffin and Steve Kerr) know he's a decent college player and an NBA scrub. His signing only makes sense if Blake somehow has an opt-out clause in 2010. Guy has no upside (already 23 years old) and less talent.
 

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Here is another take on the matter which somewhat allays by concern for a player at a need position. See article written from Paul Coro at azcentral dated 8-17-09.

The Suns seemed to be more interested in making that 13th man a point guard or a big man. By signing Griffin, they could be buying time to see if any interesting free agent is still looking for a home at the end of the summer or even right up until opening night, when a player could shake loose from another team when official rosters have to be set in late October. Regardless, Griffin just went through the rookie transition program in New York with Earl Clark, the Suns' first-round pick, and will head to San Diego with the team for training camp Sept. 28.

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/PaulCoro/60500
 
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I guess now summer league is valid indicator of a players worth?

Well then, hopefully you all will get your wish and he will fail horribly so you can say I told you so. Just think, without this signing you would never get the opportunity!

If people don't like the draft pick and express that opinion that is fine but it would be stupid to draft a player and then not even bring him to camp.
 

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Well then, hopefully you all will get your wish and he will fail horribly so you can say I told you so.

C'mon Chaz, you're better than this BS. Everyone on the board would be thrilled if he played like Blake, just like everyone would be thrilled if we had Brook instead of Robin. Unfortunately, we got the wrong brother both times.

You can be excited as you want about his signing, but I think it's far more likely than many of us will get our "wish" and Taylor will suck as anticipated.
 

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C'mon Chaz, you're better than this BS. Everyone on the board would be thrilled if he played like Blake, just like everyone would be thrilled if we had Brook instead of Robin. Unfortunately, we got the wrong brother both times.

You can be excited as you want about his signing, but I think it's far more likely than many of us will get our "wish" and Taylor will suck as anticipated.

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Like we had a choice of brothers and chose the wrong one.

I am not excited about this signing any more than I would be about signing some 6'2" shooting guard camp body that probably won't make the team but to bash the org for signing him at all?

Using summer league stats to bolster your argument rings hollow.
If he had played well you would be saying it doesn't mean anything because it is only summer league.
Should there be some litmus test that a player has to score enough summer league points to warrant bringing them to camp?


The negativity on this board just annoys me is all.
 

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Wow, the excitement of this team has been sucked out of town. I don't care about signing a total scrub, and I care even less about the 'hope and prayer' of signing another guy that has shaken loose from another team in October.

How the mighty have fallen... well, near mighty
 

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Whenever someone uses Summer League as an argument for anything I remind them that Marcus Banks scored 42 points in a SL game. Yeah, SL means less than nothing.
 

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Whenever someone uses Summer League as an argument for anything I remind them that Marcus Banks scored 42 points in a SL game. Yeah, SL means less than nothing.

When you're in your mid 20s and fail to play even mediocre ball in summer league it most certainly does mean something.
 

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When you're in your mid 20s and fail to play even mediocre ball in summer league it most certainly does mean something.

It sure is easy to age around here. Roughly 300 days ago he was still closer to being a teen than a 25 year old and now we're casually referring to him as "mid 20s". How long before we point out that the guy is almost 30?

He's 23 years and 4 months old and it seems a lot more accurate and less "agenda oriented" to call him 23 rather than mid 20's, IMO. And, as has been stated several times, summer league often means next to nothing.

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Like we had a choice of brothers and chose the wrong one.

You misunderstand my point. It would be an exciting event if it were Blake or Brook. Unfortunately Taylor is the worst of the group by far, and had so little potential he wasn't even included in most lists of draft prospects. He follows a decent but completely unremarkable college career with an awful performance in the summer league. All these factors and the fact that he's already 23 and ill suited to play the NBA 3, and it's a less than exciting acquisition. There are definitely things to look forward to and reasons to watch, unfortunately Taylor isn't one of them.

Using summer league stats to bolster your argument rings hollow.
If he had played well you would be saying it doesn't mean anything because it is only summer league.
Should there be some litmus test that a player has to score enough summer league points to warrant bringing them to camp?

Of course, now you can read minds, very impressive. If he lit it up in Summer league there would be at least one reason for optimism. You act like his poor performance in the summer league is the only reason he isn't a viewed as a potential NBA rotation player.
 

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We seem to get the short end of brothers, I guess Dick was a little better player than tom Van Arsdale
 

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We seem to get the short end of brothers, I guess Dick was a little better player than tom Van Arsdale

The Original Sun was a lot better player than his twin.

Many years ago, I ran into Dick buying a six-pack in a supermarket late one evening, had a nice chat with him and ended it by saying, "I am talking with Dick, right?". He responded, "You'll never know." But I knew it was Dick.

I hit Dick with a trivia question. What do the Van Arsdale twins, Dr. J. (and I) have in common?

We were all born on February 22nd. :)
 

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Whenever someone uses Summer League as an argument for anything I remind them that Marcus Banks scored 42 points in a SL game. Yeah, SL means less than nothing.

So, your entire opinion of the NBA summer league is based off one one game involving Marcus Banks? Interesting sample size. I guess the fact that the every year, the best young players usually separate themselves from the pack doesn't mean anything.


The NBA scouts and GM's that show up for summer league must love wasting time, don't they know it means less than nothing?

Look, obviously there will be a couple anomalies like Marcus Banks or other players lighting it up in a game, or even throughout summer league. Regardless, the best summer league players are usually going to be better in the NBA than the players that suck in summer league. Of course it's not 100% foolproof, but to say Summer League means less than nothing is wrong.
 

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There are definitely things to look forward to and reasons to watch, unfortunately Taylor isn't one of them.

Who said he was?


Of course, now you can read minds, very impressive. If he lit it up in Summer league there would be at least one reason for optimism. You act like his poor performance in the summer league is the only reason he isn't a viewed as a potential NBA rotation player.

Sorry, you are right. It should read "you would probably be saying"

Even if he had played well in the summer league it still wouldn't mean that any conclusions could be reached about his future in the NBA.
 
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does anyone actually think the suns will bring in ANY player of actual worth for their 13th man? seriously?

ANY player we bring is will just sit at the end of the bench anyways. just look at our history with the 12-13 guys. its going to be a scrub either way.
 
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