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Duo Streaks Toward Middle Of D-backs' Future Lineup

By Jack Magruder
February 25, 2005


TUCSON—By the end of the 2005 season, Conor Jackson and Carlos Quentin could be joined at the hip. They could probably answer each other’s mail right now.

Jackson and Quentin first got to know each other as arch-rivals in the Bay Area during their college days at California and Stanford, and they became friends as teammates on Team USA in 2002. They were separated by a mere 10 picks in the 2003 draft and now have become fellow travelers in the fast lane of the Diamondbacks system.

They have adjoining locker cubicles as nonroster invitees to big league camp in Tucson, which also serves as the Triple-A Sidewinders’ clubhouse, and are likely to start the regular season right there, side by side, on the final rung of Arizona’s organizational ladder.

Jackson and Quentin hit third and fourth in the batting order in the first half of 2004 at high Class A Lancaster and the second half at Double-A El Paso and are without question the top two hitting prospects in the organization. It has been quite a 20-month carpool, and the Diamondbacks believe the best is yet to come.

“They have both made a lot of progress and have shown a lot of potential in what are still brief professional careers,” general manager Joe Garagiola Jr. says. “We see them as potential impact offensive players in the big leagues. We could not be happier about the progress they have made.”

Strong Start

Jackson and Quentin had remarkably similar numbers from their corner outfield spots in their two stops last season. Left fielder Jackson hit .324-17-91 in 484 at-bats, with 32 doubles and seven stolen bases. Right fielder Quentin hit .332-21-89 in 452 at-bats, with 31 doubles and six stolen bases.

The two took another step up in the fall, playing in the Arizona Fall League, where Jackson continued to put up big numbers, going .324-8-26 in 111 at-bats for division-winning Scottsdale. He tied for the league lead in homers and tied for fourth in RBIs. Quentin strained his lower back early and played just four games before the D-Backs shut him down for the rest of the winter, but the injury was not serious and he was back participating in drills this spring.

The two have developed into fast friends and confidants along the way.

“It’s been good to have a buddy kind of rising up with you. It’s nice, because we can get to know each other’s swings and when we talk hitting, we are on the same level,” Quentin says. “We push each other in a positive way. Both of us are very competitive, and we want to go out and perform. We are teammates, but there is a good competitive little thing. He’ll say the same.”

Indeed, Jackson does.

“We talk in-season and out of season. We are good buddies. We talk about on the field stuff and off the field stuff. It’s a good relationship we’ve got,” Jackson says. “We definitely have an internal competition. If he gets a hit, I want to get a hit. It’s definitely our friendship and a bond that we are going to carry out through the rest of our careers.”

Jackson got an earlier start when he played the 2003 season while Quentin had Tommy John surgery to repair a damaged ulnar collateral ligament in his right elbow in August. Jackson batted .319-6-60 at short-season Yakima, leading the Northwest League in RBIs and doubles (35) in 68 games.

The Diamondbacks made Jackson their first pick that summer, the 19th overall selection, and have since heard that he would not have made it much farther. When Quentin was available when their turn came around at No. 29 overall, ostensibly because some teams may have wondered about his elbow, the Diamondbacks got their man there, too.

“We were very confident if we did not take Conor in the first round, he would not be there,” Garagiola says. “As we’ve been told by a couple of teams, they were definitely taking him. He was their No. 1 guy. We knew we had to take him with our first pick, and we really liked Carlos.

“We were very pleased that Carlos was still there when it came time to make our second pick. My guess is that some people backed off because of his arm injury, but we weren’t bothered by that. I think that worked to our advantage. We were comfortable that he would be fine with that surgery.”

Bay Bashers

Jackson attributes some of his success to the presence of Quentin right behind him in the lineup.

“I see a lot of good pitches,” Jackson says. “They are definitely not throwing to me because they have him behind me. He’s one of the best hitting prospects in baseball right now.”

Quentin, who is similarly complementary of Jackson, set a minor league record by being hit by a pitch 43 times, 27 in 65 games at Lancaster, but said he does not plan to alter what so far has been a successful approach. He said he might try an arm guard, although he has found them cumbersome.

“It didn’t affect me that much, so I will just go about my business the same way,” says Quentin, saying his first pro season was “probably the best I could hope for.

“Obviously you want to hope to do better in anything you do and want to strive to do better, but I was happy with that and I’m going to try to keep improving on it. All you can do is go out there and play. When you get your chance, hopefully capitalize. That’s what I’m looking forward to.”

Jackson, who will get some work at first base this spring to broaden his options, figures it about the same way.

“It’s been a good little run so far,” he says. “Obviously, the ultimate goal is to get up here and stay in the big league locker room. So I’m going to go out and have the best spring training I can and go where they put me and try to produce again.

“You can’t really worry about who’s in front of you. You just have to worry about what you have to do.”
:mr green:

Heh heh. I love reading about these guys. I can't wait to hit Tucson next week and see them play in DBacks unis.
 

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AZZenny said:
Heh heh. I love reading about these guys. I can't wait to hit Tucson next week and see them play in DBacks unis.
Definitely something to get excited about!!!
 

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When I saw the reference to Quentin and Jackson, I wondered . . . what are 'Q' Richardson and Jimmy Jackson (two of the Suns most recent additions) doing on the D'back board. :rolleyes:

It is interesting how the Minor League stats for Quentin and Jackson are so similar.

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I guess Mark Grace must be pretty sure that they -- Jackson, in particular -- will be in AAA this season when he (as a spring training Coach) said that Chad Tracy would become a better 1B than Gracie himself.

What if Jackson (whom Bob Melvin will have playing 1B during spring training) is ready to jump to the Majors, and give the D'backs a strong RH bat (following the L-R-L of Gonzo, Glaus, and Green) in the 6th spot in the batting order?

Grace upstaging the Manager would be counterproductive. Is this the case of the Manager wannabee doing a job on the Manager? After Mel asked him to join the Spring Training coaching staff?

Oh, Gracie. You've done it again! :doofus:
 

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BC867 said:
When I saw the reference to Quentin and Jackson, I wondered . . . what are 'Q' Richardson and Jimmy Jackson (two of the Suns most recent additions) doing on the D'back board. :rolleyes:

It is interesting how the Minor League stats for Quentin and Jackson are so similar.

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I guess Mark Grace must be pretty sure that they -- Jackson, in particular -- will be in AAA this season when he (as a spring training Coach) said that Chad Tracy would become a better 1B than Gracie himself.

What if Jackson (whom Bob Melvin will have playing 1B during spring training) is ready to jump to the Majors, and give the D'backs a strong RH bat (following the L-R-L of Gonzo, Glaus, and Green) in the 6th spot in the batting order?

Grace upstaging the Manager would be counterproductive. Is this the case of the Manager wannabee doing a job on the Manager? After Mel asked him to join the Spring Training coaching staff?

Oh, Gracie. You've done it again! :doofus:

You're right--you are a doofus.
 

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Grace upstaging the Manager would be counterproductive. Is this the case of the Manager wannabee doing a job on the Manager? After Mel asked him to join the Spring Training coaching staff?
You could pass this on to Peter Gammons or Pedro Gomez...

They're always looking for stories. :rolleyes:
 
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I doubt its anything so sinister - what was Grace supposed to say? "If he doesn't get the yips and if Conor Jackson isn't quite ready to take over, I think Tracy could be adequate for as long as they let him occupy first base."
He's motivating a kid who is already a hard worker, expressing his typical somewhat exaggerated confidence and optimism - I seem to recall him saying very similar stuff about Hilly when he made the switch.

As long as he didn't say, "As Pretender to the Dugout Steps, I hereby declare Chad Tracy is our first baseman regardless whether he hits, fields, or falls flat on his face." Then you would have had something to gnaw on. LOL
 

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AZZenny said:
As long as he didn't say, "As Pretender to the Dugout Steps, I hereby declare Chad Tracy is our first baseman regardless whether he hits, fields, or falls flat on his face." Then you would have had something to gnaw on. LOL
Sorry, I came on too strong about Gracie. No doubt he had good intentions.

But if it puts Bob Melvin on a spot, it might still be counterproductive.

I'm concerned about lefties hitting 3rd, 5th, and 6th with Tracy. And I wonder about Cruz hitting higher than 7th, to break up the lefties, with his history of strikeouts.

I like Chad Tracy as a player and appreciate his play last year. But a team without a power hitting 1B usually reaches an impasse.
 

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history of strikeouts.

I like Chad Tracy as a player and appreciate his play last year. But a team without a power hitting 1B usually reaches an impasse.

Yeah but a lot of teams with power hitting first basemen dont have power hitting third basemen, heh.
 

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FORKTUNG said:
Yeah but a lot of teams with power hitting first basemen don't have power hitting third basemen, heh.
That's true. As I did mention in another thread, with the G-Force providing power at the other corner positions -- Gonzo, Green, and Glaus -- we could get by.

Just as Sandberg at 2B for the Cubs provided the power that Grace at 1B did not. But doesn't that negate a plus?

When Jackson is ready to provide RH power at the 4th corner position, especially if it's this year, why not go for it? With a decent pitching staff (starters and relievers), and a strong 3-4-5-6, plus Cruz at 7, we could rule, rather than get by.
 

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True... Cardinals are an exception
Albert Pujolz moving from 3B to eventually 1B and Scott Rolen taking over at 3B. *

Now that's a luxury. That's why I'd like to see Jackson succeed at 1B with Glaus at 3B.


* Scott Rolen was #1 on my wish list for the D'backs when they were dealing . . . with Mike Lowell #2 . . . then Shea Hillenbrand #3.
 
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Carlos Quentin got his first HBP of the 2005 baseball year - plunked by Valverde. heh heh. I CAN NOT WAIT until Thursday!!! I am barrelling down to Tucson for the game, then barrelling back up here for the Suns vs. Detroit.

Unfortunately, I'll see Ortiz start - Vazquez starts intrasquad Weds and Webb on Friday. But I am getting excited - want to see Glaus, and of course, want to see the Dynamic Duo.


btw - until he developed the shoulder injury just before going up to AA last year, Jaime D'Antona had excellent numbers and was part of the "Three Amigos" with CJ and CQ - lower OBP, higher K, but more pure power. Eventually, I think Jon Zeringue will make it a really spectacular foursome.
 

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