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I'd try to lock Goodwin in for the next 2-3 years at around $4 million a year. Any higher than $5 million should have team options. He's too important as an energy guy. He's like a much better version of Josh Okogie. He's everywhere on both sides of the ball making high IQ plays. He is a capable shooter also which makes him better than Okogie. Retaining him should be a top priority.

Gillepsie needs resigned also and the fact he came down to earth around the All-Star break should help us retain him. He's not worth the max he can get, which is close to $15 million a year. Ideally we can get him for something like 3 years $25 million. Something just below $10 million annually would be good. I worry how tradable a deal he signs ia so I wouldn't break the bank. If he played like he did in late March or April though no one would consider taking on a deal worth $14m or his max.

We need to get Williams locked in for the qualifying offer. I'd even use that to build if he wants a longer deal. Don't go above the $9.6 or whatever his qualifying offer is. Team options are a must, even if triggered by games played.

All good points. The above part of post for sure.
 

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is ish a trade junkie? did he learn from the kd fiasco? does he realize how lucky he got getting what he got for kd? or will he head right back to the casino?

did ott play small ball because that's what he had and trusted? or are we looking at a coach jor-d'antoni situation? did it drive him nuts like it did us watching teams drive all over us?

will ish trade the house for size - will ott utilize it
 
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Booker and Green haven't played many games together. A healthy off season could make a big difference.

The defense and turnovers are a huge concern but starting three guards (Booker Green Gillespie), a small forward (Brooks) and a finesse center (Ighodaro) is not going to cut it.
 

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The defense and turnovers are a huge concern but starting three guards (Booker Green Gillespie), a small forward (Brooks) and a finesse center (Ighodaro) is not going to cut it.

I agree. Thinking more like Booker, Green, Dillon, Fleming and Williams/Man.
 

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I agree. Thinking more like Booker, Green, Dillon, Fleming and Williams/Man.

We agree about the size factor.

On the cheap, the Suns could add more role playing centers, then think about quality at the power forward position including Fleming.

Brooks playing small forward alone would strengthen the front court.
 

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A lot of the foregoing posts covered my opinions... but I would also add that the Suns need to prioritize moving in from guys who are constantly injured.

I know there's ultimately no way to guarantee everyone's health throughout the year, but the Suns also have a tendency to ignore injury history as a prime roster consideration, and then pay the price every year with rotation guys missing dozens upon dozens of games.
 

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I know there's ultimately no way to guarantee everyone's health throughout the year, but the Suns also have a tendency to ignore injury history as a prime roster consideration, and then pay the price every year with rotation guys missing dozens upon dozens of games.

We need to carry 4 Centers if 3 of them are Williams, Maluach, and Oso. Williams can't stay healthy, Maluach is developing, and Oso is more of a small ball finesse C than interior banger. Even if the 4th guy is a small ball PF/C that's fine.

We are ok elsewhere. I don't think we'll have trouble throwing wings out there. Maybe Brea takes a step and can earn some minutes. I'd like to see the dependency on Grayson lowered, if he isn't moved.
 

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We agree about the size factor.

On the cheap, the Suns could add more role playing centers, then think about quality at the power forward position including Fleming.

Brooks playing small forward alone would strengthen the front court.
What kind of role playing centers and/or quality power forwards do you think this team is going to get “on the cheap”? They’re not the type of contender who’s going to get title hopeful FAs that will take discount deals.
 

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What kind of role playing centers and/or quality power forwards do you think this team is going to get “on the cheap”? They’re not the type of contender who’s going to get title hopeful FAs that will take discount deals.
Nick Richards?
 

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What kind of role playing centers and/or quality power forwards do you think this team is going to get “on the cheap”? They’re not the type of contender who’s going to get title hopeful FAs that will take discount deals.

At the risk of being redundant, I wanted the Suns to sign Precious Achiuwa on the cheap when he was a free agent.

I'm guessing there were a lot of other big men available on minimum type contracts as well.

They need not be stars if surrounded by quality players. The Celtics are a good example of doing this.
 

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Adena Bona, drafted in the 2nd round in 2024, was a find. He will be a career backup center if nothing else.
 

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I really wanted the Suns to draft Maxime Raynaud last year. Of course, after trading for Williams, there was no way that would have happened, but with Maluach and Fleming, they would have been set for the future at the bigs. I still believe the Williams trade was mistake, last season results notwithstanding.
 

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Gambo says what almost all of us were thinking.

The Suns will likely want to keep Collin Gillespie and Jordan Goodwin. And why not keep Mark Williams if the price is tight.

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And Bobby Marks talks about the need for Khaman Maluach and Rasheer Fleming to take a step forward this summer.

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We need at least one dominant big man. Adding another mid-level rotation guy isn't going to get us past OKC or the Spurs.
 

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goody and gillespie are getting paid -
grayson might have to go - he's due for pay increases the next 2 years and couldn't stay on the court

hearing gillespie 30+ for 3 years plus - maybe 4 years around 45 million - also hearing his particular signing won't go against our cap or some crap like that but idk

goody ended up being a starter at the end of the year when we were healthy at his position aside from the aforementioned grayson allen - goody's getting paid - i haven't heard how much

dillon's getting a big fat extension - there's no way around it - he and phx are still in the honeymoon stage - no idea what the villain gets either but he might actually be kind in the contract - i really think he wants to win here (with book)

mark williams might be cheaper than we imagined - i'd offer to run it back (6 million) if no one comes with an offer - not joking - we'd still be forced to play small ball on back to backs if maluach or oso misses time

i like oneale at 10 million especially if we move off grayson - i love grayson but not at 18 million
 

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It's going to be hard getting past OKC and the Spurs for a long time to come.

Yes, close to impossible. But there is a chance.

We do have assets to trade for the right deal. However, any significant improvement will likely hinge on Fleming and Otts ability to integrate Green, Booker and Brooks into a solid, cohesive core.

Fleming will need a miracle, break out season and Green, Booker and Brooks looked discombobulated, so that's also going to take a small miracle.....I'm going to pretend health won't be an issue.
 

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We just need to find a solid 4 at the expense of Oneal. Oneal is too streaky for my liking, we see playoff teams make them when they need them, and when wide open. Oneal is just too streaky for my liking to go cold in a playoff game. Also he's older, lost a step and isn't atheltic enough. He's #1 on my list to go.
I hated Allen, but when Book and Green are off (and when Allens not injured), Allen has added attacking the basket to his resume.

Our biggest problem is guard defense; Book, Green, Gillespie and Allen are all mediocure at it. How do we fix it without getting rid of any one of them?
This may be a bit simplistic but it seems to me that when O'Neale is surrounded by players that draw defensive attention, he gains confidence with each wide open shot especially if it goes through the net. But when there is no focal point for the opponents he tends to struggle.
 

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So listening to this press conference, it doesn't sound like they are looking to make any major changes to the team.

They even somewhat are resisting the idea we need to get some new big men.

Again flat out said Book is not going to be traded. I think this is a mistake, but apparently it's still a non starter. Also said they believe Jalen, Dillion and Book can work together.

So sounds to me our season is going to largely depend on the development of Khaman, Rasheer, Jalen Green, Oso, Ryan, Kobe and Huntley.

Gregory even said the way we played in Game 3 and Game 4 he thinks we would beat almost anybody other than OKC. I don't really agree with this - especially about game 3, but it gives you pretty good insight into the fact they don't want to make major changes.

I think we might make one major outside addition, hopefully someone like a Mitchell Robinson but other than that I am expecting most of the team to come back as is.
 
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