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  1. JCSunsfan

    Nurk thread

    When you draft children, well, you get children--with only rare exceptions.
  2. JCSunsfan

    Suns Media Day and Training Camp 2023

    Mom always loved him most.
  3. JCSunsfan

    Nurk thread

    And that is because their window is now. The real question is "Who is more likely to help this team win a championship this year? Nurkic and the depth they got in this deal or Ayton?" They chose Nurkic and the depth. Kinda hard to argue with that.
  4. JCSunsfan

    Nurk thread

    I am convinced that the primary issue with Ayton being more efficient around the basket is the surrounding teammates. Ayton is still better, but the difference is not as great as it seems. And I am not a big Nurkic fan. I am just trying to be objective. Ayton scored a lot on OOps. Not sure...
  5. JCSunsfan

    Nurk thread

    OK. Stats. How about per36 for their careers. Ayto--pts 19.6, tov 2.1, blk 1.2, ast 1.9, reb 12.2, ft .755%, fg .597% Nurkic--18.3, 3.2, 1.7, 3.4, 12.8, .671, .502. Aytons numbers are better, but not blow away numbers by any means. Ayton has better scoring percentage because of the players...
  6. JCSunsfan

    Nurk thread

    Uh. Not exactly what I said. I said he will put his shoulder down in his post-up game and bump his way to the hoop. He did it often in the highlights against Ayton and others. Ayton did not do that. It's one bully type of move that we never saw from Ayton. One bully-type move does not...
  7. JCSunsfan

    Best Big Threes in basketball right now

    I will say this once, and then forget I ever said it. I wish somehow we could have ended up with Jrue this summer instead of Beal.
  8. JCSunsfan

    Nurk thread

    Trying to improve my attitude on Nurkic. So I have been watching everything I can on him. I understand highlights are selective and deceiving. This one below was helpful. Looks like Nurk is willing to lower his shoulder and drive defenders back. We did not get that with DA. He is pretty...
  9. JCSunsfan

    AYTON TRADED!

    Very young players don't always turn out the way you expect. The NBA's fixation with younger is better hurts the draft. Younger is more of a gamble, plain and simple.
  10. JCSunsfan

    2023-24 Around the NBA Thread

    Can we pick up the one that doesn't make it? I have a hunch Monty will choose the wrong guy.
  11. JCSunsfan

    Suns Media Day and Training Camp 2023

    gotta be the shoes.
  12. JCSunsfan

    Best Big Threes in basketball right now

    Actually Allen, Little, and Watanabe all three play with Okogie type of intensity. I think Yuta has an outside chance at that 5th starter position because of his size, constant motion, defensive intensity, shooting, and most of all his chemistry with KD.
  13. JCSunsfan

    2023-24 Around the NBA Thread

    Ha! I expect him to bust out singing "I feel good! I knew that I would, now!"
  14. JCSunsfan

    Nurk thread

    Wolfley is such a homer. He makes me sound like Bickley. Yeah. Nurk wants to be here. That is encouraging. He has lost some weight. That is encouraging. Maybe he will stay a little more healthy. His injury history is a litany of knee, back, leg, lower back, adductor, calf, etc. I am...
  15. JCSunsfan

    Best Big Threes in basketball right now

    Grayson Allen is a pretty good ball-handler. I think he could initiate the offense with the second crew.
  16. JCSunsfan

    The Grayson Allen thread

    Its that nose. Really gotta wonder why he looks so much like coach K. Ha!
  17. JCSunsfan

    Nurk thread

    Nurkic ranks 32nd among NBA centers in PER. Not I would use that stat as a plus for Nurkic. https://insider.espn.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/position/c
  18. JCSunsfan

    The Grayson Allen thread

    This is a double-edged sword. He was asked this question directly at the media day, and I was pretty impressed with his answer. He owned his play at Duke. Admitted his immaturity. Pointed to how much better--but not perfect--he is doing in the NBA. Said he is going to try to live the rep...
  19. JCSunsfan

    Best Big Threes in basketball right now

    That is why I included that disclaimer about the third players in some being marginal.
  20. JCSunsfan

    AYTON TRADED!

    Is the draft itself overrated? Especially because of how young these players are coming out? When you are drafting 18-19 year olds you are playing the lottery, and not just the NBA lottery.
  21. JCSunsfan

    Best Big Threes in basketball right now

    Yes. Its me, but I didn't come up with it. It is a fairly commonly held view around the NBA. I would love to be wrong. Maybe Vogel can do something with him. Ranked 19 here. https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/nba-center-rankings-2022-23-starters/lztnsmu0t1voeubckyvfcvnj PER ranks 32...
  22. JCSunsfan

    Best Big Threes in basketball right now

    These are in no particular order. BTW, I said "Big Three" but I understand that the third player in some of these is marginal. Book, Durant, Beal Holiday, Tatum, Brown Lillard, Giannis, Middleton James, Davis, Russell Jokic, Murray, Porter (Gordon?) Butler, Bam, Herro It seems that some of...
  23. JCSunsfan

    AYTON TRADED!

    Ayton will dominate this board for years, maybe decades to come. He will do well in Portland and I think people here will be highly disappointed with Nurkic. Nurkic has a rep for being as hit-and-miss on the court as Ayton, except Nurkic looks for his own shot more, and is less efficient. He...
  24. JCSunsfan

    Nurk thread

    Interesting Denver perspective on Nurkic and Monty.
  25. JCSunsfan

    Suns Media Day and Training Camp 2023

    Chambers mentions Nurkic' father. So I looked him up. 7-1, 400 pounds.

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