Jacoby Brissett wants extension that pays as a starter

[Brian in Mesa]

Just to be clear. If the Cards said "Screw you JB, we'll start the Mississippi Mustache" then he too would be asking for a raise to start.

You can have two QBs on backup money and no starter, one of them needs a pay raise.

Unless there is a starter. You just cleared it up. Whichever rookie QB they draft will be the eventual starter this year and either backup would then be a bridge QB with just a handful of starts. This isn't rocket science.

 

[kerouac9]

Unless there is a starter. You just cleared it up. Whichever rookie QB they draft will be the eventual starter this year and either backup would then be a bridge QB with just a handful of starts. This isn't rocket science.

No reason to suspect that a guy like Nussmeier selected in the third round or later would be starting unless the season is completely over.

It’s not super-likely that a guy drafted outside the first two rounds would be starting at all as a rookie.

 

[MartinD]

Offer Brissett an extra three million for every victory over what the Cards won last year. Everybody's happy and he ends up with an extra three million. Maybe.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I continue to be mystified that you refuse to acknowledge the difference between foresight and hindsight.

Get over yourself bro.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

No reason to suspect that a guy like Nussmeier selected in the third round or later would be starting unless the season is completely over.

It’s not super-likely that a guy drafted outside the first two rounds would be starting at all as a rookie.

Well, there is no time clock on when they need to redo his deal if he is officially named the starter, so we will likely know more after the draft.

 

[kerouac9]

Well, there is no time clock on when they need to redo his deal if he is officially named the starter, so we will likely know more after the draft.

Obviously the benefit to the Cards is he shows up for more/all voluntary work and is better prepared to perform entering training camp.

 

[BritCard]

Unless there is a starter. You just cleared it up. Whichever rookie QB they draft will be the eventual starter this year and either backup would then be a bridge QB with just a handful of starts. This isn't rocket science.

I don't see any QB starting game 1 in this draft. Not even Mendoza.

ANyone drafted will have to earn it so you need a presumptive starter. The floor for that is really $20m. Which is what fields got last year.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

well yeah...working longer.
a backup QB usually gets to watch the game from the bench.
a starting QB has to go out on the field and actually play in the game...every single week too!

You think the backup QB just has mojitos during games? If actually being on the field constitutes “working” I’m sure there are a lot of football players that would be surprised about their ability to skip the games and do with that time what they’d like.

I think Brissett pretty clearly took the job from Kyler man.

no he didn’t. Kyler forfeited it.

 

[kerouac9]

no he didn’t. Kyler forfeited it.

Wut?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

At work I had my supervisor retire and they had me fill in until they found her replacement. Eventually after a couple of months they decided to just keep me in the position. I said sure but I'm not doing it without a promotion which they eventually gave to me.

Jacoby's contract was originally for him to be a backup who comes off the bench occasionally as needed. If the Cardinals are now expecting him to begin the season as a starter, I fully understand why he would want to renegotiate that deal. The amount of stress and the physical beating you take as a starting NFL QB warrant a higher pay.

Here’s what you’re failing to understand: you obviously proved you could handle the promotion. So you were being paid for the value you brought. Brisset hasn’t proven he’s a legit starting QB. If he had we wouldn’t be discussing who we intended to draft next year. He’s a placeholder not a replacement like you were.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Wut?

You’re too smart to actually not understand my point.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Get over yourself bro.

how am I over myself? I'm not the one who continues to refuse to admit there's a difference between foresight and hindsight. Hell, it's not even like I brought this subject up here. YOU made the comment and made it a topic of conversation again, dream.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

how am I over myself? I'm not the one who continues to refuse to admit there's a difference between foresight and hindsight. Hell, it's not even like I brought this subject up here. YOU made the comment and made it a topic of conversation again, dream.

There is clearly a difference between the two. You can't see that foresight without ALL knowledge is an educated guess.

 

[kerouac9]

You’re too smart to actually not understand my point.

How dare you overestimate me like this

 

[kerouac9]

There is clearly a difference between the two. You can't see that foresight without ALL knowledge is an educated guess.

That’s literally what foresight is

 

[Cheesebeef]

That’s literally what foresight is

lol... it's truly hopeless.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

That’s literally what foresight is

Not quite. There was no way to know for sure that the trade wasn't going to work out. That's what was claimed. There was no way to know all of the factors involved.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

lol... it's truly hopeless.

Go back to my previous post before this started again.

 

[kerouac9]

Not quite. There was no way to know for sure that the trade wasn't going to work out. That's what was claimed. There was no way to know all of the factors involved.

Obviously but you can look at the odds and then when they turn out it’s not random chance.

Foresight is not prescience. But it wasn’t unforeseeable that the trade wouldn’t work out because many people literally foresaw it.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Obviously but you can look at the odds and then when they turn out it’s not random chance.

Foresight is not prescience. But it wasn’t unforeseeable that the trade wouldn’t work out because many people literally foresaw it.

Nobody is saying the trade not fully working was unforeeseeable. There were many people on here that thought that Anderson was going to be great. Not sure anyone here said first team All-Pro though.

Speaking of the odds, most people that do this for a living thought the Houston 1st round pick would be top 5. I saw nobody that said the pick would turn out to be late 20s.

 

[kerouac9]

Nobody is saying the trade not fully working was unforeeseeable. There were many people on here that thought that Anderson was going to be great. Not sure anyone here said first team All-Pro though.

Speaking of the odds, most people that do this for a living thought the Houston 1st round pick would be top 5. I saw nobody that said the pick would turn out to be late 20s.

Who does this for a living? Paul Calvisi?

I’ll accept four examples of third party sites with 75k or more twitter followers that’s said that as evidence of “most.”

Otherwise it was people here letting their imaginations run wild.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Excited for Bidwill State Media to gaslight us into 3rd round pick Cade Klubnik as QB1 when Monti botches the draft again

I was close!

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

There is clearly a difference between the two. You can't see that foresight without ALL knowledge is an educated guess.

Dude you can not possess all the facts and still have foresight. In real life there’s virtually no scenario in which a decision maker possesses “all” the facts. In fact, exercising foresight with fewer facts is even more impressive because it means you can project what the few facts will mean in terms of significance in the future. Your argument is that any prognostication about what might happen in the future about anything is pure luck. That’s just not accurate.

 

[TJ]

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[Crimson Warrior]

2026 was already going to be a disaster, but leave it to the Cardinals to find a way to make it worse by manufacturing a Qb controversy.